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Bewildered
« on: December 30, 2004, 01:19:03 AM »
Hello all,
I have browsed this forum off and on for the past year to help me understand the strange relationship that I had with my mother. I have come to the conclusion that she has quite a few N tendancies and it explains a lot about the other relationships that I have experienced. But I did not post to write about my mother.  My husband and I have been married for 12 years and have a beautiful 8 year old little girl. I am in my mid-fourties and my H is 50. For the past 8 years, my MIL has also lived with us, but she recently moved out of state to live with one of my H's siblings. She was very controlling, did not care much for me and let me know it, and was generally the focus of our everyday lives for these last 8 years. I will gladly admit that I was pleased that she  finally moved. (In case you are wondering, it was an argument with my H that finally convinced her that it was time to go). I expected that we would have a period of adjustment to go through, but I was unprepared for what has been happening. We both were self employed until recently, but found it neccessary to find outside employment to make ends meet. My H works swing shift, while I work days. We see each other mainly on weekends. We should be looking forward to 2 days off with the family, but wow, it seems that every weekend we wind up in some horrible rows. I find myself walking on eggshells, wondering what I said or did wrong this time. I've gotten everything from "What in the H*** do you do all evening?" (MY to-do list never gets finished) to having to listent to him accuse me of lying to our daughter about him.  On Christmas day, he seemed to be especially pleasant, so I let my guard down. When he suggested that our daughter say a prayer at dinner, (Something we have never done) and she got very self concious and said that she would rather not, He went off the deep end, bolted from the table, and went outside to start removing all the Christmas decorations. When I went out to find out why, he told me that we obviously did not know or understand the true meaning of Christmas and he was no longer going to live a lie. He proceeded to remove all the decorations on the inside also. When I asked if he intended to remove the Christmas tree also, he said of course. We did sit down and I tried to get him to open up about his feelings about spirituality and religion and I thought we were having a decent discussion.
I was wrong. When I woke at 3 AM, I found the tree stripped of its decorations and placed outside. What a great thing for our 8 year old to find. So I let him know how much I felt he was hurting us and stormed off to bed. The next moring, the tree was back up and he told our daughter that she could re-decorate the tree for Orthodox Christmas. (He used to practice but does so no longer) Since then, he has given me the cold shoulder and acted as if I am the one who ruined the day.
I'm not sure what is going on. He has not acted like this in the past. I would not normally suggest that he is an N, but his behaviour lately has been very wierd.  I am getting tired of the deer in the headlights feeling and am not sure the best way to handle the situation. Any feedback? Does this sound like maybe a normal reaction after the events of the last year?

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2004, 07:56:25 AM »
Sorry to hear all the upset in your home...especially for your daughter. Children should never be expected to deal with such confusing adult matters and emotions. It's even puzzling to an adult.

This may be incredibly obvious but I felt a desire to post. It seems your husband's actions and shift in behavior are a direct result of his mother moving out. Was she a buffer against his personality/behavior or did he possibly lose a piece of his own childhood by her leaving? He seems to be living out HIS experiences past and not really feeling the repercussions on you and your daughter. Did he stop long enough to notice his selfish behavior and can he even see the hurt to the whole family? I don't think he means to be hurtful?...maybe he's hurt and doesn't know it?

You said he has never behaved like this before, so I assume your life with him has been ok to this point. If you think things can work....
As a wife and mother (concerned for your daughter), it seems to make sense that you need to decide to be the positive driving force behind this new "transition"(hopefully). As a women, and especially at times like this, I believe we must put aside the surface emotions of the time and dive in deep to try to find what is really behind what's going on. This is the only way it will serve all of you positively in your future. It may be difficult, but it's up to you this time. Be strong, be inquisitive, be understanding, and all the while, as loving as possible. This is what your daughter needs to observe. And if you can do all that...you will get the "Superwoman Multi-tasking Award".

As difficult as things may seem when things don't make sense, we need to focus on the desired outcome and how to achieve it. If the reality of your husband's behavior becomes unrealistic to deal with, you must focus on the goals you desire for your daughter and how you must get there. It may take great discipline, but focus on your goals and how to get there....without fault or blame...just think about trying to find what makes sense--even if that means big changes. When real life gets in the way of our goals, sometimes we have to re-adjust those goals. Maybe we don't get what we want, but we need to find what works best given the circumstances. Again, your daughter needs you now! This is the gift you must give her...that's really what Christmas is all about, isn't it?

Wishing you insight and tenderness.

Anonymous

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Bewildered
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2004, 08:57:29 AM »
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I'm not sure what is going on. He has not acted like this in the past. I would not normally suggest that he is an N, but his behaviour lately has been very wierd. I am getting tired of the deer in the headlights feeling and am not sure the best way to handle the situation. Any feedback? Does this sound like maybe a normal reaction after the events of the last year?


Sure sounds like something is bothering him. Sometimes it's easier to talk about difficulties when working on a task together. Is there any way you can engage him in some sort of project -- together -- and see if discussion can ensue? I would feel fearful of this type of irrational behavior but I also carry baggage from past abuse (especially in childhood) so this might explain why I would feel the 'walking on eggshells' syndrome.

Could there be a medical explanation behind this? Has your husband had a physical or seen a doctor lately? What other 'weird' behavior have you noticed?

Anonymous

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Bewildered
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2004, 10:52:25 AM »
My god--this is so terrible for your 8 yr. old & could very well do lasting emotional damage.

She will have thought that Christmas ending like that was all her fault for not wanting to say the prayer. Can you take a moment to imagine both the heavy burden on her little heart & the fear & shame she must have felt when your husband stormed around taking all the decorations down, & then finally, the tree. Her thinking this is all because of her.  Really, this is serious & something you & your husband need to address with her.

It is so natural for some children that age to be a little shy and the worst thing in the world a parent can do is to actually punish them for this.She was punished emotionally.

Your husband took out whatever was bothering him on an innocent little girl & i understand it may not have been intended to be but it was an abusive act. You and he need to both talk with her apologise and make sure beyond a doubt that she realises that this was not her fault. That mommy & daddy made a mistake.  

If you do not do this & also be more careful of how your daughter gets mixed up in things between you & your husband-- your daughter could very likely be someone writing to one of these message boards one day talking about her bad relationships with men, her low self esteem, low self worth, depression-- recounting such traumatic childhood experiences as contributing factors.  

Some things are less harmless than others & this incident has potential to change who she is inside, for the worse.  Really, after doing that to an 8yr. old at Christmas you need to set things right with her! Please do this.  

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Bewildered
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2004, 12:08:51 PM »
I agree this was too awful for your little girl.  I ache for her little spirit. She will be afraid to voice the way she feels now, for fear of what it will bring! She could also begin to question her value and validity of her thoughts and feelings and opinions. Walking on eggshells, beating up on yourself and shoving emotions down at the tender of of 8 is not acceptable. You and your husband; especially him; have to talk to her to the point that you are 100% sure she knows it had nothing to do with her. As part of it, tell her that mom's and dad's make mistakes sometimes and that you are both very sorry.

I'm sure the two of you don't mean to cause this in your daughter, but you just have to set it right as soon as possible.

Lizbeth As Guest

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Bewildered
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2004, 12:25:36 PM »
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My god--this is so terrible for your 8 yr. old & could very well do lasting emotional damage.

She will have thought that Christmas ending like that was all her fault for not wanting to say the prayer. Can you take a moment to imagine both the heavy burden on her little heart & the fear & shame she must have felt when your husband stormed around taking all the decorations down, & then finally, the tree. Her thinking this is all because of her.  Really, this is serious & something you & your husband need to address with her.

It is so natural for some children that age to be a little shy and the worst thing in the world a parent can do is to actually punish them for this.She was punished emotionally.

Your husband took out whatever was bothering him on an innocent little girl & i understand it may not have been intended to be but it was an abusive act. You and he need to both talk with her apologise and make sure beyond a doubt that she realises that this was not her fault. That mommy & daddy made a mistake.  

If you do not do this & also be more careful of how your daughter gets mixed up in things between you & your husband-- your daughter could very likely be someone writing to one of these message boards one day talking about her bad relationships with men, her low self esteem, low self worth, depression-- recounting such traumatic childhood experiences as contributing factors.  

Some things are less harmless than others & this incident has potential to change who she is inside, for the worse.  Really, after doing that to an 8yr. old at Christmas you need to set things right with her! Please do this.  


I agree.   I was punished physically (spanked on my bare behind) by my father under the age of 5 (we were still living in NYC so I had to be under 5) for getting up in the middle of the night on Christmas Eve, seeing the presents "Santa" had brought and opening some of them in my excitement.

I remembered that my entire life.

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Bewildered
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2004, 06:51:19 PM »
Hello again,
After reading all the responses, I had a Homer Simpson moment (Duh) and realized that while our daughter was my first concern, I never did sit down with her afterwards and explain that none of what happened was her fault. We did that today and I think she feels a lot better. Things were not so uneasy with my H, but we are still not to the point where we can discuss what happened.  I realize that when his mother moved out that it changed the whole dynamics of our family and that it would take some time to sort out. I had hoped that it would be like when she would leave for a month or so for a vacation and we would bask in her absence (sp).
I guess I have to realize that, yes he does miss her, even if I don't. Then I have to consider how it feels to have your business do poorly after 25 years, having to work opposite shifts. It is a lot to adjust to. I think my expectation of 2-3 months to settle was unrealistic.  Today we all had a good day together, saw a mattinee at the local theatre before my H went to work, and I think we all felt like we could be a normal family again. I do understand that I will have to keep my guard up, in case more such incidents arrise. They have been directed at me, this was the first that involved our daughter. I think I made it clear that including her in his distress is not  acceptable. (Not that any of it is, but I can deal with it better) (had a bit of practice when I was a youngster you know:))
Thanks for everyones input!!

Anonymous

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Bewildered
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2004, 08:23:54 PM »
Great guest.really glad to know you & your husband did that.

Like you say--lots of changes going on at once.and not just small changes but big ones simultaneously.

also like someone said--there seems to be a lot for him behind his mom leaving.if he keeps acting out like this it will be necessary for him to step up to the plate & open up and tell you what he is really feeling.keeping quiet & letting it build up & fester won't solve anything & will keep the behavior & turmoil going.what you could do to help is to do your best to listen & be receptive & understanding of his feelings.does not mean you have to agree but to really listen & then when it is your time to speak-- share any different ideas in a non confrontational or "you're wrong" manner.  

opposite shifts meaning less communication through all these changes has got to be the worst timing but understandably you are both doing what you have to do. if you could figure a way to work same shifts & that this will be temporary it could help.otherwise to make the most of the time you do have together by communicatiing well & really connecting.

hang in there & good luck to you.you seem very level headed & capable of working through this.