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lighter:

I've been reading Al Franken's LIES and the LYING LIARS WHO TELL THEM.

Of course it was written in 2003, but you recognize pd tactics.

So familiar.

I find myself wishing the phenomenon was better understood, and recognized universally.

I wish we could come up with..... 
some great catch phrase to concisely pinpoint the circumstances of being pd'd by a pd.....

like.....

"Getting Munsoned," from the movie KINGPIN.  That phrase really said what it needed to say.

::nodding::

I don't know......

There are so many levels of getting pd'd.....

The scorpion and the frog types, who destroy themselves along with their little paddling prey, often with children on board, vs the political animals who do anything to get ahead. 

One catch phrase couldn't possibly cover them all.

Lighter

Izzy_*now*:
hi lighter,

I have a feeling I would agree with you but I don't know what pd'd means.

I just know that so much of what we see as our current surrounding and occurrences are lies.

xx
Iz

Meh:
Sigh, that book title rings a bell though I don't think I ever read it. Read a few about George Bush's supposed personal ties with all the 911 stuff and it boils down to personal interest taking a precedent over their professional responsibility.

Was thinking along the same lines this evening about the two different faces of what retail business show to customers and the second face that is on the back of the head. Consumerism has become a cliché buzz word of sort. People do require things but consumerism is a massive machine that is somewhat odd. I find that the upper level staff in some ways seem to think their consumers or the people beneath them are total idiots that are controllable and I guess maybe human consuming behavior is controlled...there is just some bit of it that is arrogance though.

hum not sure I have a point really...only that there frequently is something else going on beneath the surface

sKePTiKal:
Green Bean, did you see the little news blip about the couple (Chinese) that were out Christmas shopping?

After about 5-6 hours and she wasn't done yet, he told her "you don't need any more shoes"... and jumped from a 7th floor catwalk, killing himself. I thought it was a tad "extreme", even for someone who hates those kinds of shopping "sprees". But I do know how he feels. Hubs will go without food, water, despite all my pathetic "hints" that I'm about to go face first into the floor from exhaustion... just to see what is in that department or the next aisle. About the only way I can get his attention is threaten to make a scene, which embarasses him. 3 hours is his minimum, to feel satisfied that he's been out "hunting & gathering".

When I go shopping: it's one store - I know what I'm looking for; select it - and then maybe I'll glance around at other stuff, but I'm essentially "outta there". I guess it's kinda claustrophobia, because retailers cram so much stuff so close together -- there's no room for people, and when people are added to that environment, they tend to act like caged animals. My favorite places are the ones with room to pull hangers off racks, and flip garments around... the sales people still walk up and offer to stack things up in the changing rooms or at the checkout, so your hands are free.

Back on topic:

Lighter, there are so many different kinds of lies and less & less social disapproval for indulging in them. Right down to incorrect word usage, making up words, to kind of imply one thing - until called on it - then claiming one meant another thing. Drives me NUTZ. I can really understand how people can give up and accept that no one ever knows what the truth is anymore - which leads to apathy - and then to self-exile; just so they don't have to deal with the cognitive dissonance.

lighter:
 
I wish we could stop prosecuting pot smokers, and get busy prosecuting people who lie under oath, and in legal documents.  Esp those leveraging children in civil suits, and creating trauma/harm.

Pot smokers could do community service, and the lying liars could do jail time for choking the justice system, paying steep fines to pay the expenses of prosecuting them.

Yes, then they;d be choking up the civil and criminal justice systems, but hey.....

Would it make a difference?  

I'm thinking YES.

Eventually.


Lighter

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