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debbie

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how do you ever really move on
« on: November 28, 2004, 02:15:41 AM »
It's a daily battle. After 13 years with a "N". I'm not sure what a normal life looks like.  I hurt so deeply I'm not sure the pain bearable.  How happy do you have to be to cover the scars.  Will I ever get over this??
He moved out 11 months ago and I filed for a divorce.  Didn't talk to him for months.  But it still feels like it was yesterday.  How do you really move on??

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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2004, 06:23:53 AM »
Dear Debbie,

I just got off the phone with a man I had a relationship with for 6 years.  I swear (not to sound too dramatic  :P ) everytime I got healthier and made friends, reached out, got more confidence, he would decide that he couldn't meet me anymore and gave no reasons.  I just got that phone call 5 minutes ago and, knowing what I know now, I think it is about power.  Read the sadistic N thread.  Portia had some spot-on things to say: alot of times it is about power.  They feel powerless and can only be in a relationship if they feel power over us.  Do you want that?  I wish I could change him but I can't.  I wish him the best, I learned a great deal but I can't change another's thing.  I guess the way we can move on is to find outlets for our espression where we are accepted as who we are and appreciated for that.  I think that counts for alot.

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Will I ever get over this??
He moved out 11 months ago and I filed for a divorce. Didn't talk to him for months. But it still feels like it was yesterday. How do you really move on??


If you want to get over it, you will but you'll have to go through some pain.  You go out to events, meet people when you are ready.  And remember that the problem isn't necessarily about you (though I don't know the details)....I gotta echo Portia....some men are afraid of women who have inner-power but not all.  I believe that one day I will meet someone who is not afriad of my strengths.  And I believe you will too.  And you'll get over your experience with this N.  13 years is not such a long time in the grand scheme of things.
"No one's life is worth more than any other...no sister is less than any brother...."

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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2004, 10:12:36 PM »
Hi Debbie,

I spent 5 years with a man who was an alcoholic and NPB.  I never thought I would get over him.  Even when I knew I could not have him in my life, I still missed him.  How strange is that??  I was miserable without him but I soon realized I was even more miserable with him!  

I started by rebuilding my relationships with friends and family I had neglected for those five years...mostly women friends.  I tried to revive my interest in those things (hobbies and interests) that I loved in the past but had neglected for five years for the sake of HIM.  At first I didn't really enjoy them (because I was doing them alone) but I kept at it.  Pretty soon I realized that I was enjoying them again.  I have to admit, I did miss having a man in my life but not THAT man.  I accepted invitations for new activities which I never would have done before.  I started having fun again.  I had forgotten what that felt like.

Eventually I met a wonderful man and found out that I could have a happy relationship minus all the drama.   My husband finds a strong woman with her own opinions a huge turn on! Hard to imagine it, isn't it?  But there are some men out there that are healthy and secure and looking for the same in a partner.   When I look back on it now, those five years just seem like a bad dream or something that happened to someone else or something I saw in a movie.  

You just have to keep trying.  Eventually it won't feel like you are having to try so hard anymore....you will just enjoy life again.  

Just keep trying.

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2004, 10:08:57 AM »
Thank you, Guest, for your response. It gives me hope. Although I intellectually know that leaving my ex-N was best for all concerned (even him -- he was miserable trying to keep up the guise to sustain our relationship), I still miss him -- or the image of who I thought he was.

My life is less chaotic and calmer now. I am finding balance again. But in healing from this very destructive relationship, and feeling isolated because I am living in a new city with few contacts, it's been hard to reach out, recreate or socialize. In trying to renew some of my past relationships, especially with one woman friend in particular, I am finding resistance or, perhaps, even apathy. Some of my friends may have resented the void created by the preoccupation with my relationship.

And, sick as it sounds, I find myself wanting -- almost craving -- to know what he's up to and what he's doing. I have inklings but made a point to not ask mutual friends/contacts because I am trying to disengage completely. But my daily thoughts still focus on him. Weekends are particularly tough because there was always a lot of activity. And even though that activity focused mainly on his agenda, it still filled the void that I am currently experiencing.  I know this too shall pass but  have to consciously not engage in self pity, remorse or false reminiscing about the so-called good times with my ex-N.

Am glad to hear you endured the travails with your alcoholic NPD partner (same situation in my case) and have found a lasting, healthy relationship.

Question: you mentioned it's minus the drama. Did it take a while for that to feel okay? What I mean is did/does the relationship seem boring without the drama at first? If so, how long did it take for your transformation into not needing/wanting drama? I worry that because of the crisis-orientation of my childhood, I am inclined to view a "normal" relationship as boring.

Oh dear. I have quite a bit to work on, don't I?
Best,

bludie

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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2004, 12:52:06 PM »
bludie,

I've found that I can create drama where there isn't any. I can make a 'normal' relationship into a soap opera if I want to. A marriage counselor advised me to stop the hysteria (my way of acting out) if I wanted to stay married. So I had to stop it. Sure there are urges to create drama but I catch myself. It's a choice to want drama and you can choose not to act on urges.

Drama may be familiar but not necessary. Follow your passions, talents and interests. Make your weekends active, even if it's renting movies and doing laundry. Most of us are busy doing mundane but satisfying things.

It takes practice.  :wink:

bunny

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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2004, 01:44:48 PM »
Me again,

I totally echo Bunny.  I can also still create drama where there is none...but I keep working on it and I get better all the time. I apologize when I need to and try to learn from the experience.  I've learned to lower the tone of my voice and ask reasonably for what I need and if that doesn't work, schedule a sit down talk about what is bothering me.  That always works with my husband.

It didn't work AT ALL with a few of my friends so I had to let them go.  What I discovered though, was that when I rid myself of the one sided, drama laden friendships, there was room and time for healthier people in my life and now I found myself surrounded by them.  It's almost like when you are sick you give off an aura that attracts sick people...and when you start to get healthy you give off an aura that attracts healthy people.  

I was raised by unhealthy people too...drama was a way of life.  "Normal" can seem very boring but I wasn't happy with the drama and it obviously wasn't working for me so it was time to try something new.  It is still a work in progress.  I can say though, that I can now spot those people with narcissitic tendencies in the bat of an eye now and I just steer clear!  If they are involved in a group I enjoy, I limit my contact with them but don't "bad mouth" them to anyone else.  Eventually they go away or others see them for who they are.  

I hope you can find some activities or groups to join that will lead to new relationships.  I know it's hard but you just have to keep trying until you find the right niche.   The new you deserves it!  

I hope that you can focus on repairing all the damage that was done to you during your relationship.  It's a great time to not only work on your mental health but to concentrate putting your financial affairs back in order, establishing a home that you love and enjoy, and finding out exactly where you want to go from here and how you want to live...and then go for it! (baby steps, of course!)  Maybe you want to move?  Do you have to stay where you are?  Many times I feel paralyzed by a situation and think I have no way out but that is usually not the case.  

Good luck to you!

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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2004, 04:15:48 PM »
Both of your posts, bunny and Guest, echo what my therapist has been emphasizing during the past few sessions: that much of normal life is routine -- full of responsibilities and often the mundanity of daily chores, etc.  Normal people (and I mean that with the utmost respect) find joy in this simplicity -- a beautiful sunset on the drive home; the splendor of autumn color; the smile of a child. In other words, an interesting life does not have to be drama-filled.

So I am glad to hear that as I readjust and continue to practice healthier behaviors that eventually I will (emphasis on the affirmative) attract healthier people in my sphere. I'll post a 'No Narcissists Allowed' sign on my door and will be all set for a new adventure. :lol:

Seriously, if I practice this stuff enough maybe I can eventually rewire some of the neuropathy (Goleman's "Emotional Intelligence" talks about how our amygdala's get hijacked) in my brain so chaos and dysfunction no longer has the familiarity of hooking me in...Of course, conscious choice has a lot to do with it, too.

As for physically leaving/moving, I have my 16-year-old to consider. Changing high schools is no small thing and even though she's not real happy about being here either, there is something to be said for continuity. I am giving it until spring -- checking into career avenues here -- and will see what happens.  I have looked before leaping several other times in life and didn't want to repeat that pattern.

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2004, 07:53:44 AM »
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I have looked before leaping several other times in life and didn't want to repeat that pattern.


EDIT: I meant leaped before looking....

Bludie