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Hopalong

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Re: Health Updates
« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2020, 11:18:04 AM »
Heartfelt (pun intended) thanks to every one of you.

Sleep wasn't good last night but I got through it and not giving up. My body may be adapting to all this new stuff at bedtime, esp. the ashwagandha. But I'm sticking with it for at least a week before I remove any of the components. I may space them out over the evening, instead of dumping it all in at once. E.g., sip chamomile during the early evening, then the magnesium CALM mid-evening, then the ashwag. at bedtime, kind of thing.

Obvious as a sledgehammer--if I don't exercise, I don't reach physical fatigue. Wouldn't take much right now, so I need to get on my recumbent bike (laundry holder) and get going. That's been a stupid, irrational, mental block.

Thank you very very much for understanding about pain and welcoming my talking about it. In my 20s I had significant panic disorder (as you describe, Tupp), and quite a few ED visits for the chest pain. I couldn't fathom what it was about and the chest pain was scariest, the shortness of breath next-scariest. It's been decades since I've had a true "anxiety attack" and it's hard to understand why I'd be having one literally while falling into sleep. So I'm still unsure what caused the latest. But I'm following up by making an appt with a general cardiologist, so maybe there'll be new advice they didn't have decades ago. I did get reassurance from the arrhythmia guy that my device (chest impant recorder) didn't record any rhythm problems during this episode.

Amber, I read tons and tons about anxiety disorder when I suffered acutely from it, and you're absolutely right. Pain is pain and it's just WEIRD that such strong chest pain can come from something in the brain, not the chest, so to speak. But it's very common with anxiety states. Also, maybe Quarantine Anxiety will be a new diagnosis one day. I know that's been building up for me, as the season starts to change.

Lighter, I'm using my light (pun intended). I appreciate how closely you tune in to the connection between body and mind, and how you track emotion and feeling states in methods of breathing and visualizing in order to calm the CNS. That really is a gift I'm not naturally drawn to, as close contemplation of every little sensation tends to increase anxiety when I'm in the middle of it. I do believe that a simple mediation practice might carve some new neural pathways that would boost my resilience, though.

And the struggle with motivation and hope is something I am dealing with more directly with my T. It troubles me some that the last time we "met" was the same day I had the "attack" at night. One issue I'm trying to think effectively about is that I'm a quick and detailed talker, very descriptive and clear (and verbose). She is verrrrrry different, and processes or takes in whatever I say very, very slowly. She takes so long to come up with a thought about whatever I've just said that I an find myself feeling little spurts of anxiety about whether we're even on the same page.

However, she is deeply empathetic, which I know I need. Just not a great communicator. She expresses herself so slowly and haltingly that sometimes I lose confidence, but that's not her fault. It's my racing mind. I think I'd benefit from trying to slow waaaaay down and express just a few thoughts at a time. Or, it's possible we're mis-matched. I hope not, because I do have a high degree of trust and comfort with her otherwise.

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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2020, 11:10:35 PM »
I don't remember what I shared here or not, but I thought I was having a heart attack back in 2007 and was terrified my ASPD stbx would make sure I died if that was the case.  I phoned a doctor friend to talk me through it.... trying to figure out if I needed an ambulance. 

I've felt I was having a heart attack in the car more than once... IT IS PANIC and anxiety.... just terrifying.  Felt my heart was exploding, not sure what a heart attack SHOULD feel like, but exploding heart felt very threatening.

It's been 6 years since I've experienced that, but it was very real, no shame about it. 

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Re: Health Updates
« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2020, 01:03:33 AM »
Hops:

A friend of mine was just prescribed Gabapentin and Meloxicam for nerve pain.

There are two upsides..... he sleeps like a rock,which is new for him.   He has one of those things that measure his steps, sleep,  heart rate, etc.  The difference in sleep was quick, and the pain is much reduced, though he was told he has to wait a while for the drugs to take full effect. He can't believe how much better his shoulders are feeling.

From what I've read today, it looks like the Gabapentin decreases abnormal excitement in the brain.  It's an anti seizure drug but seems to have a multitude of uses.

Normally I don't take drugs or recommend them, but this friend's life just opened back up bc of them, so I mention them here.

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« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2020, 01:11:08 AM »
Hops... one more thing before I sleep.... sometimes talking about upsetting things is a trigger,  bc it reminds us of a whole big bunch of traumas and upsets stored in our limbic systems.  As I understand it, there are ways to address trauma without triggering more. 

Elizabeth A. Stanley, PhD has a course on Trauma-SEnsitive Mindfulness, and she talks about just that.   It's funny I listened to it yesterday. 

Maybe some things came up, with your therapist, and you were affected by them more than you realized. 

I hope you're sleeping well tonight, dear one.

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« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2020, 11:29:06 AM »
Thanks, Lighter. I really appreciate that.
Insomnia is slow to correct but I'm being consistent and believe it'll get better.

I took gabapentin (Neurontin) for about a decade for signficant RLS (restless legs syndrome) and it also helped with depression, back pain and insomnia. Kind of an amazing pill. I went off it years ago when I realized I was over-medicated and that was one of the little pile. I went off: gabapentin, SSRIs, Ambien. (Back on Ambien in recent years, but very small dose.)

But when I tried gabapentin again a week or so back, for two nights, I had awful non-sleep. Really felt terrible. That's why I decided I might give ashwagandha a trial, and then in a few more days, add CBD oil. I wish to heck I could find standardized organic ashwagandha, and have a faint, faint concern there might be a mild allergic reaction there -- but at this point SOB is chicken or egg.

It'll be a glorious day when herbs and other supplements are as well studied and well regulated as pharmaceuticals, imo.

Time will tell. I'm also scheduling more wee walks to begin rebuilding strength. It's high time. AND...drumroll....I've begun brief relaxation-response breathing when I feel the shoulders and chest clench up.

I know there are solutions, and good ones. Panic, when it's happening, just makes you believe there aren't.

I really hope I can address the out-of-sync feelings I have with my kind T in a good, constructive way (not a complaining way) when she's back from vacay. It's hard not to see a connection between going so deep and the fact that the anxiety built to that physical point the same evening.

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« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2020, 03:20:24 AM »
How has it been going, Hops?  Have you felt any kind of relief yet? xx

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« Reply #81 on: September 05, 2020, 10:01:39 AM »
Lighter, I think you're totally right that talking about deep dark things can be a trigger. It really is a delicate matter, to probe into/relive real trauma...without being re-harmed. I'll explore that with my T and see what she thinks too. My traumas of those years a decade+ ago were so interwoven that I'm not sure how we could untangle that ball of yarn anyway. (Menatl stress may have contributed to esophogeal spasm--which my doc suggested it could have been--but probably didn't directly cause it. It may have been more about eating too much!)

Tupp, thanks for asking. I feel much better about sleep. I'm sometimes still awake way too late, but I don't care about that as much as I did feeling exhausted every morning and as though the sleep wasn't very deep. I believe the new bedtime routine is making a big difference. I'm doing all of it every night and think adding the ashwagandha is doing something. Subtle but real. I'm less anxious!

BUT.
I managed to have another fall and for the same reason. Learning Experience Alert. When I fell before and cracked my knee it was because I'd left something big and heavy on the floor and after walking safely around it for a week or two, I forgot one night and walked straight into it when I was sleepy. This time, I'd left a full large watering can near the side door to remind me to go out and water things, which I'd really begun slipping on in the high heat.

The REASON I'd left it there was as a visual cue to do it. It might be related to ADD or aging brain, but I'm really dependent on visual cues to remember important things, and even then, in my normal state of distraction or inattentiveness (that's the technical term)...I can simply incorporate the visual cue as another thing to not notice. Frustrating.

So...another thing that's something to be aware of is to slow down and not dash around as I always used to do. One silly reason for the new fall was that although I've asked him repeatedly to give me a day's warning when he's coming to mow again, my lawn guy is on his version of Mexican time, and just doesn't communicate readily. (I also think he's a great person.) So the way I know he's here is when I hear the mower. Then I feel stress because I didn't know he'd be here yesterday, so I leap up and rush to write the check, put it in an envelope and out under the front porch mat, then zip to the kitchen to put two cold beers for him and his helper in my mine-cooler and set it on the patio in some shade.

It was that rushing about that got me in trouble. Got everything done but when I turned back indoors after putting the cooler outside I walked right into the heavy full watering can and it sloshed some water on the cork tile and one way or another, BAM, I slipped and down I went. I landed harrrrd on my tailbone but am confident I didn't crack it. I'm just achy and limping again (also managed to re-wrench the recovered knee on the way down, but I believe that will heal on its own too).

I'm frustrated that taking walks or using my bike will be out for a while. But the silver lining is that this is a wakeup call that I intend to listen to, and also that while I was lying on the floor hurting, I did a calm and controlled few minutes of slow breathing, counting to 5 in and out, and that helped me stay calm and rational.

So I'm pissed at myself but feeling more aware. This is a good time to start reducing portion sizes and being more intentional about diet, since I can't "work off" the extra pounds. I'm tired of my boredom-eating and emotional-eating so hope I take advantage of this annoying Learning Opportunity and really internalized its lessons.

Thanks again for asking, Tupp.

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« Reply #82 on: September 05, 2020, 10:25:09 AM »
Ooh, Hops, that does sound like a nasty crack, I hope you heal up fairly quickly and yes, I get what you mean about leaving things out so you remember them and then forgetting they're there.  I currently have a big plastic crate on the kitchen floor that I'm filling with tins and dried food in case we get another lockdown/panic buying situation over the winter and I can't tell you how many times I've walked into it.  I think our brains do an autopilot thing where we don't bother paying too much attention when we're somewhere we know very well.  I'm glad the sleep is getting a bit better, though.  A CBD bath bomb might help with the aching if they sell them online somewhere?

Just from a purely practical point of view, is there anyway you could install a sprinkler system so that you don't need to worry about watering?  I've no idea if you've got the sort of set up for that but I think you can set them to come on automatically so that you don't need to do anything once it's up and running xx

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« Reply #83 on: September 05, 2020, 11:32:08 AM »
Smart idea, Tupp!
I've thought that if I do veggie beds again next summer I will NOT do them unless I get some sort of a watering system in place first. At the moment though, I've just abandoned my garden and I'm okay about it. Whatever rain it gets, it gets, and I'm done hobbling around back there for now.

Once I let go that it has to be done right, I felt better!

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« Reply #84 on: September 05, 2020, 12:58:23 PM »
Hops, m'dear.
It's perfectly OK for you to slow down, take your time, no one is going to expect you move as fast as you think you NEED to... to signal that you care about them. They already know that and are going to understand.

Mike used to say all the time: "Life's too short to be in a big rush all the time". And he lived it too... and it helped me learn to not sweat the small things so blamed much.
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« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2020, 08:47:17 AM »
Smart idea, Tupp!
I've thought that if I do veggie beds again next summer I will NOT do them unless I get some sort of a watering system in place first. At the moment though, I've just abandoned my garden and I'm okay about it. Whatever rain it gets, it gets, and I'm done hobbling around back there for now.

Once I let go that it has to be done right, I felt better!

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Yep, letting go of doing things right is hard but it does help.  It is what it is and as it's your garden, well, whatever goes on with it is your business and no-one else's.  As the Queen of planning I did wonder if you can write up his next cheque now and leave it by the door so next time he comes round you don't need to worry about doing it? Then it won't matter whether he lets you know when he's coming, you'll be all prepared! xx

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« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2020, 11:14:54 AM »
Thanks, guys (including h/t to Mike) -- very good advice.

Tupp, I was thinking about a pre-prepared check for Esteban just yesterday, which makes excellent sense. I don't have an obvious place to put it where it might not disappear into unsorted bits of paper debris but I'll sort that out. I can just add the date on the day he appears.

Today feels like a good day. I carry a cell-memory of enjoying Sundays. I'm watching my church's service on Zoom (I seldom turn on video so I can watch in nightgown, ha) and see my dear friend there, other familiar faces. Even while I type this, I'm feeling less alone because of the voices, music and the fact that our new minister is doing her part from the sanctuary all by herself. It's nice to see "home" in that way.

The whole sanctuary and other major things have all been redone during the pandemic thanks to a huge bequest from the old man I worked for, for two years, remember him? So that's a nice reminder of something familial-ish too. Looks great, and was always a beautiful space to be in.

I had an hour's Zoom get-to-know-you talk with the new (interim, just a year) minister last week and really like her. So that feels good too. I doubt I'll ever be quite as firmly anchored in the rituals, etc as I used to be, but I'm glad to be plugging back in to a small sense of community on Sundays.

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« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2020, 12:36:40 PM »
That sounds like a very nice day, Hops, and so good to make those connections.  And lovely that the gentleman you looked after gave them some money?  So sweet of him and nice for you to see that being put to good use as well :)

My tidy trick for unsorted or 'needs dealing with' paperwork is to keep it in a box with a lid - an old shoebox will do.  It just means it's all in one place, bits don't get lost and it's not cluttering the place up.  And might it be possible to just blu tac the cheque in envelope to the wall near the door so it's just there but not in the way? xx

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« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2020, 01:52:30 PM »
Good tips, Tupp!

I've got some sorting/organizing notions in mind already but I think I'll add the "stick the check on the door" thing. Why not?

Off to work on paper/work.

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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2020, 12:19:26 PM »
What a relief, huh, ((Hops?))

I'm so glad you're moving happily again.

Many of our group, stbd, are going into the moss to do the back care yoga today.  It was chilly dogs this morning, so waiting till it's just right. 

I SEE where I would have benefitted by having a good routine with this in place, but I don't.
 Oh well. 
We're doing it now... today, and that's cause for celebration and happiness, rather than feeling anything negative over NOT doing it sooner. 

It's OK, and that's how I see it now, just as it's OK for you to begin moving on paperwork,
now,
and not before this time. 

Once we drop the judgment.... once we're as kind to ourselves as we'd be to a small child.... shift is possible.  It's easier, IME.

I think of all the things going on inside our heads..... while we're not actively DOING something, and I'm amazed at all the energy..... intentions...... desire and willingness to see positive change. 

It feels necessary, very often, for that emotional churning to happen, and maybe it happens more quickly when we embrace it, rather than fight and struggle through it?

Not sure, but it feels that way for me, a lot, lately; )

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