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Mindfulness and codependence thread
sKePTiKal:
Ah... Outlander. Jamie & Claire.
LOL... nope, I'm not quite at that level Lighter. I have been interested & studying (periodically) for many many years. But until one can grow, harvest & process and use one's self... you are still just experimenting. That said, I've found a lot of sources for bulk herbs or pre-made tinctures.
I would think maybe a mini-fast with detoxing herbal tea? Say 12 hr fast.
lighter:
I'm looking through teas at the store...... what's in the tea box....
putting hands on milk thistle supplement....
pulling zeolites....
I can do a 12 hour fast, Amber, yup yup yup.
Lighter
lighter:
12 hour fast... feeling much better, THEN......
I ate dairy and noticed my lungs began producing
so
much
mucus.
Well, I can't say I don't know better, bc I do. Doing better, consistently, is another story.
The T appointment went about the same way.
I took my observations about recent rabbit hole whack-a-mole, nose on a pebble thinking traps I've struggled with recently. I felt calm. Was surprised when tears came up once.
T spoke about having one's nose on a pebble....
WE are the field.....
drawing back, becoming the spaciousness..... SEEING the pebble amonth many.... noticing what's in the field, besides pebbles, that give relief, calm, restore my place in time... take me out of my mind.....
then we did a walking meditation together in her tiny small office and it was lovely.
"Feet kissing the ground" she called it.
Heel kisses the earth.... breathe and think "I have arrived."
Toe follows, slowly, kisses earth... breathe and think "I am home."
This was a relief while I enjoyed the feel of moving across the floor with purpose... not falling and catching myself as most walking goes.
Things shifted when we thought about kissing the earth with heel and toes.... it felt like my happiest moments of prayer. The feeling of expansiveness and joy..... I smiled without realizing I was smiling.... breathing..... stepping.... thinking of mantra..... we don't have to work out way OUT of our mind traps/old pathways. We can make that shift in an instant.
I also noticed I had more choice about recent whack-a-mole thinking mind traps. I could have shifted out, I was aware while I did it, but felt the need to just go with it, pay attention to what came up and see where it went.
T said she set aside a limited amount of time for this kind of "thinking." Usually an hour in the afternoon, then went back to being present. Typically she forgot to go down her scheduled rabbit hole... she was smiling ear to ear and looked so very pleased.
It was good I didn't feel defeated or like I'd failed or like i was doing things wrong, bc I just didn't feel that way.
I'm really happy with the walking meditation.
I like the idea of paying attention to the moments between thoughts.
Lighter
Twoapenny:
This sounds great, Lighter. Sailing through calmer waters. I think just being able to manage life's ups and downs is what we're all aiming for. We'll never be without bumps - but I like the idea of focusing on the moments in between xx
lighter:
I was on the Parkway this morning having an emotional wrestle with yesterday's T appointment and my difficulty with letting go of being right.
Being right is a given. It is or it isn't. Others being wrong... that's something different. Do I need them to be identified as WRONG? Not sure, but I think the hangup is the people around them being harmed. I think I needed them to be OK in order for me to feel I could be OK.
Not sure that makes sense, but my nose was so securely glued to that 14 year old pebble... it was my default setting.... the mother I was FELT the injustice, the harm to my child, the ongoing will to harm me and both my girls is REAL and it shows up in the mail many times a year. Pressing in, but it's an old pebble and I gain nothing by keeping my nose ON THAT ONE PEBBLE.
I don't gain anything by being right or knowing or someone else being wrong... I gain perspective and ability to SEE if I step back, become the field and see all the pebbles. That one pebble, my nose was stuck to, is just another pebble, and yes, Tupp... there will always be pebbles (COWs crisis of the week.)
I'm noticing new COWs and pebbles are easier to see and step away from or just see clearly with distance... no struggle.
The old pebbles, however... are different. I was looking at them with the same eyes I had 14 years ago. Those eyes.... those stuck moments in time are done and over and accepting the path, over being right, just let things click, brain processed, pebble filed away in historic files..... now just another pebble in the field.
I hope that makes sense when I come back to read this. I want to remember it the way it happened. I was turning right.. about to leave the Parkway when I GOT IT, lungs fluttered and tremendous relief and peace landed on my entire being. Joy and amazement.... it's confusing when you make an emotiona connection, then something physical pops up and splits your focus.
My T talks about physically having WOW moments, usually during yoga, or at silent retreats. I partake in neither, and I've had some moments, but they aren't frequent... I doubt they'll be the norm..... I sometimes worry they won't happen again.
When things like this happen.... it feels similar to the memory reconsolidation sessions. It's like stepping through an energy field, to the other side. Everything changes then you adjust. Very quickly it becomes your norm and you forget what the normal used to feel like very quickly. At least that's how it is for me... maybe you start doubting what a huge change it was. You doubt the affect, but they've all be profound and I don't want to forget.
I need to stop doubting. Start leaning into radical acceptance, which truly has been the struggle, or part of it recently.
Dropping into the spiral that IS primitive brain, is like dropping into a hole. In many ways, IME. I've done it enough while WATCHING myselof do it, to understand it's not the way I want to live. I want to be in the light, in the open, SEEING everything around me now... not seeing what was or what might be.
As right as anyone can be.... they're better off accepting what is NOW and getting on with doing what they can in this moment, then releasing expectation and I've said that a lot... I've seen posts I've written in the past... when I didn't quite understand the why and how if IT. What is gained and what is lost. How it changes us.
Lighter
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