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Hopalong:
This probably bears very little connection (or none!) to what you've written, Lighter, but the poem really spoke to me and seemed to cover so much about inner change. I'm leading a group on the topic of INNER THRESHOLDS tomorrow, so this will be our opening reading. (I'm reputed to pick obscure confusing topics with readings likewise!)

https://www.lyrikline.org/en/poems/ernest-hemingway-and-latest-quake-339

I can just recommend reading it verrrry slowly and not worrying for a SECOND about whether every reference or image makes sense to you. Then read it again, lightly. Whatever connects will connect and whatever doesn't, doesn't matter. Love is a Pass-Fail course and we already pass.

hugs
Hops

lighter:
You gave me homework, Hopsy!

Homework: )

Jotting this down, before I forget....

Observing myself as the observer......
mindfullness disolves te ego.

Background is self....
 foreground is the world. 

Be in the world.... not of the world.

I'll  revisit the poem on my walk, Hops.

IT's GLORIOUS out today!!!

Lighter







Hopalong:
Everybody gawked at the nearly-impenetrable poem, as ever. What I love about these groups, though, is the love in the air. And although my readings selections drive some bats, they almost always respond wonderfully to my discussion topics. I try to be funny about it and it really is fun to introduce them to new poetry. All said they loved the session (it was my first time leading this group, we rotate.)

Inner Thresholds turned out well. They all shared stories and moments of new perception and change. The biggest challenge as a facilitator, for me, is encouraging them in an uncritical way to NOT spend their "check ins" on reciting two weeks' worth of events and activities, but on the INNER stuff. Meaning, look inward for HOW you are in this present moment and share from there...not just Ididthisorthatorplantodothisorthat. Even though for a covenant group those are good to hear about too, in brief, once we "light the chalice" and enter "sacred space" (I know, corny) the groups' goal is to deepen spiritual growth (also maybe corny) and tune into THAT kind of exploration. For a few, reporting on travel or family or busybusybusy everythings is too magnetic. (So I added, it's not about anything you'd report on social media, but about YOU.) For most though, when invited to focus on the deep self, it works.

[BTW, this ain't about HERE, where to-do's are interesting and good to read about!]

Lastly, I had a meeting with the minister and he asked me to update my 15 y/o lay "sermon" on the environment to give sometime this fall. I'm happy about that as it feels very similar to the oral tradition of poetry. And I get to pick readings for the service, too! LOL.

hugs
Hops

lighter:
I read your poem just as you suggested and didn't have any response...... more of a choppy here, there and everywhere plopping of responses, forgetting one after the other. 

::sigh::

I'd love to hear you break it down and tell me what you got out of it and where it lead you. Likely, I'd be enthralled at all you find there.

I laughed when i read your group gawked at the poem.  A lot to take in, for sure.

Bet you're amazing oral poetry/sermon and leading groups to places they'd normally never go, Hops.

Thanks for shining a light down that Latest Quake path. 

Lighter

Hopalong:
:)
Reading this short description of him (Les) would be more interesting than reading me trying to break down something that's so mysterious, mystical, etc. I kind of read poetry with my gut over my intellect.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/les-murray

This poem was once published in the L.A. Times. Interesting.

hugs
Hops

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