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lighter:
CB:

What "things" do the nurses say need to be put in place?

What kind of things are you stocking, and what are you stocking them for?

lighter

Twoapenny:

--- Quote from: CB123 on June 25, 2020, 09:00:45 PM ---Lighter,

I'm sorry that wasn't clear. There are no "things". My kids have things going on in their lives related to their jobs and health that arent my stories to tell. I didnt mean for that to sound ominous, just an explanation for why I havent interacted much on the board.

As for restocking, after 4 months of sheltering in place I have run out of all the basic supplies that I had stockpiled: laundry detergent, cleaners, paper towels, etc and some of those things are less available than I expected or the price has gone way up. I hadnt really expected that we would be doing this all over again and all of it at once.  I'm having to go back and rethink what I really need to replace and if I need to change to a different store for delivery or if that will even help. I have already noticed that delivery times are less available, so I'm trying to think ahead. I remember that when all this first started it was hard to get some really basic stuff like flour, rice etc. Also, I dont have a job this time around, so I'm thinking through that as well.  So that's my restocking.

I think I'm a little more frightened than I was the first time. I think we know more now and at least my family is getting weary. We don't live close to each other and everyone is isolated. I was on the phone for about 6 hours today.

Thanks for asking, Lighter. We will probably be okay. Just getting tired and ready for this to be over.

CB

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CB, I'm sorry this is tough for you right now.  I think the prospect of isolation with shortages, surges and no clear plan of how to manage it (on the part of the powers that be) or when it might end permanently is a tough one to cope with.  I think we can all get through a few months of things not being great but I know I thought we'd be coming out of the woods at this point.  It kind of looks like it might get a lot worse before it gets better and that's not a pleasant prospect.  And it must be hard for your kids to be coping, especially as they are working in it.  I know all the people I know who've worked through it have had to cope with huge changes at work, a lot of extra stress, staff shortages, people being stupid and then also cope with child/elder care, not seeing relatives, no social life to unwind by and so on.  It's a very tough situation to be in for an extended period.  I can understand the isolation peace starting to wear thin.  I hope you know you can dump anything that's on your shoulders here and that people will understand and empathise.

We're still a bit in limbo here.  It's still a constant presence but we haven't seen a sudden overwhelm as we did last time.  We ventured out for the first time together yesterday for son's end of term picnic.  I made us both cloth masks to wear in the taxi and the taxi driver is in gloves and a visor, hand sanitiser available, and he told me he disinfects his cab inbetween each fare (and you could smell it, very clean!).  That reassured me.  I walked into town to get son's meds -some people consciously keeping their distance, others not.  One thing I did find baffling was the pharmacy - given that anyone going to a pharmacy would presumably have a health problem or be collecting for someone who does I'd have thought the staff would be in masks, but only one was.  I kept my distance.

I hope you can get restocked.  I think it's more worrying when it's so close to home and affecting people you know personally.  I hope it starts to settle again soon xx

lighter:
CB:

I hope you figure out a restocking plan and manage it soon.  It can help restore calm and equilibrium, IME.  Just to have a plan and be able to carry it out.  I started a hunt for more antibacterial wipes today.  14.00 on Amazon with a 14.00 shipping fee.  Grrrrr.  Why can't they produce enough antibac wipes?  I haven't seen them, at all, in stores since March!

Sorry your grown children are dealing with difficulties.  We're dealing with issues in our house, but I think it's easier when you're close.  All that distance adds to the tension. 

Lighter
 

Hopalong:
At some point, if it's not on Amazon I may not have it.
I may need to order everything three weeks ahead, not two.
I may need to take out those bags of dehydrated veggies and make soup.
I may have to go without a whole lot of stuff but still know I'm okay because I ordered in a lot of brown rice and beans.
I may go vegan rather than just be pescatarian (though canned sardines and tuna go a long way when I order a dozen from Amazon).

WIPES: Tear paper towels into wipe size. Stack them in a tight-lid container and dribble 65% alcohol + 35% water or aloe gel over them. Or do the same with the standard bleach formula. You don't need a lot of disinfectant on wipes because covid-19 is easily killed by just a little.

(I get pure organic aloe gel--the original stuff pressed straight from leaves, not the manufactured kind--from Amazon. It's a perfect texture to replace water in home-made wipes or hand sanitizer. It's watery and not thick but it's wonderful.)

Don't panic, anybody. If cleaners are a worry, order several different kinds now and hit up your local pharmacy delivery for pure rubbing alcohol. A little goes a looong way. Or buy a case of cheap vodka (no shortages there, far as I know). Just look up the alcohol content and adjust formulas accordingly.

Y'all probably know all this already but my unsolicited-advice gene kicked in....

hugs
Hops

Twoapenny:
Today has been a difficult day.  I'm not sure why.  I texted with a friend and she said she's spoken to a few people this week who have all hit a wall.  I think we're three months in and there's just no real plan or leadership in place.  It's emerged over the last couple of days that the government have only been releasing the test results from clinical settings - hospitals, care homes and so on.  Those numbers are relatively small.  But it seems they've been keeping quiet about the positive test results out in the community and those numbers are much higher.  They're opening up this coming Saturday all the bars and pubs and at the same time announcing a local lockdown in one part of the country because the infection rate is high.

I get that we can't stay locked down for ever.  I'm fed up with it now and we're used to being in and going nowhere.  But if we're going to be out and about we have to have testing and a good tracking system for people who test positive and, in my opinion, masks should be compulsory as well.  I don't see how we can have any other way of managing it now.  The point of lockdown was supposed to be to get the numbers so low that it died out (as far as I'm aware) but they've carried on letting people in and out of the country and of course, there are millions of people in essential jobs who've all had to carry on working as normal (if not harder) throughout this.  And then they've done these sort of partial re-openings of things that all involve people milling about together.  It seems to me it would have been easier to manage social distancing and good hygiene in schools and colleges, for example, rather than pubs.  I can only assume the business leaders have all been pressuring to get the money flowing again and those of us who are more susceptible just have to carry on staying in and hope to Christ we don't get it.  It just feels like there's no end in sight at the moment and I thought we'd at least have some decent information to hand by now.

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