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Hopalong:

--- Quote ---if we're going to be out and about we have to have testing and a good tracking system
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You're right, Tupp. And the most frustrating part about "we have to" is that we can't make it happen ourselves. So what we really "have to" do is accept what is and fight off the fear. So we're all stuck with some degree of incompetence from government plus a lack of conscience and common sense from too many citizens. Bad place to be. It's even worse here. Life has changed.

I'm so sorry you're having nightmares, CB. That sucks. (Melatonin gives me them sometimes.) Is there anything you would like to do on Zoom that could bring you into new friendships? Hate to suggest Zooming but as I do it once or twice a week, I get more used to it...and it actually is providing some kind of species comfort. Not As Good As Real. But I can sometimes feel my brain responding to friendly faces/voices in a positive way. I'll take it. Not daily, but having a few scheduled social "meetings" is helping, with people who talk with each other kindly and respectfully. My church has online coffee hour, broken into small groups where folks just talk. My Covenant Group is very loyal and bonded. We're so close by now that we really listen to each other and it's a big comfort.

If I had no such support and wanted to try Zooming, I'd look up women's support groups or uber-liberal discussion groups, etc. I think there are a lot of them.

I'm just guessing about this...truly....but do you think it'd be good for you to have some non-family connections?

hugs
Hops

Hopalong:
I have this below my email signature. It's my healthiest response to everything pandemic and/or political now. It helps me every time I read it. (I probably already shared it here....). I want to be more like the wild things, even indoors.

The Peace of Wild Things by Wendell Berry

When despair for the world grows in me
and I wake in the night at the least sound
in fear of what my life and my children’s lives may be,
I go and lie down where the wood drake
rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.
I come into the peace of wild things
who do not tax their lives with forethought
of grief. I come into the presence of still water.
And I feel above me the day-blind stars
waiting with their light. For a time
I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.

Twoapenny:

--- Quote from: CB123 on July 01, 2020, 12:12:11 PM ---I'm right there with you Tupp. Our governor is pro party line and began reopening everything at a fast clip about 2 weeks ago. The covid cases, just in my county have doubled in 8 days. We are in serious trouble, with little leadership. He closed down the bars again, but it's too little too late. I'm with you--and I'm at heart a restaurant owner--but to me I dont get the big rush for restaurants to be open when its not safe to open schools.

I'm feeling it this week, too. Starting to have nightmares, although days for me, personally, are uneventful. Just focusing on staying in touch with loved ones and doing whatever I need to to keep in good mental spirits. I embarked on movie watching, even though I rarely do. I just need a story I can dip into during the day to get a break.

How is your son with all of it? Mine is struggling a bit. This is a lot of isolation for him.

CB

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You broke my dream CB, I'd forgotten about it but it woke me up in the early hours of the morning!  I dreamed we were at the supermarket and my son had run off across the carpark.  I was trying to chase him but I was running against the direction of the arrows so the security guard was grabbing me to stop me running the wrong way and son was getting further and further away from me.  I hate dreams that involve him :( Although he is doing fine with all this; he is genuinely happiest in his room on his own and really doesn't crave company from anyone.  I'm sorry your lad is struggling with it now.  It has just been such a long time.  I don't mind now going out but I've not seen a friend now since February and because we live in a holiday area (which is all opening up again next week) I don't think we'll be venturing anywhere until October at the earliest.  That's weighing on me a bit now.  And yes, this practise of opening places up and just seeing how it goes is a fool's errand.  I was chatting to one of my neighbours and she said there's no way she's going to a shop when she can't go and visit her own mum.  My son's tutor has been phoning each week and her mum is in a care home with dementia and they are having their visits with a plastic screen between them, like a prison visit.  People need their loved ones.

I hope the numbers start to drop in your area again soon.  It's like those horror movies when you see your woman going down into the basement and you just know that's where mad axe man is going to be hiding.  Just watching it unfold and not being able to do anything about it.  I'm very grateful for you guys xx

Twoapenny:

--- Quote from: Hopalong on July 01, 2020, 12:47:27 PM ---I have this below my email signature. It's my healthiest response to everything pandemic and/or political now. It helps me every time I read it. (I probably already shared it here....). I want to be more like the wild things, even indoors.

The Peace of Wild Things by Wendell Berry

When despair for the world grows in me
and I wake in the night at the least sound
in fear of what my life and my children’s lives may be,
I go and lie down where the wood drake
rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.
I come into the peace of wild things
who do not tax their lives with forethought
of grief. I come into the presence of still water.
And I feel above me the day-blind stars
waiting with their light. For a time
I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.

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The poem's lovely, Hops, thank you, and yes, you're right, there's nothing we can do but try to keep ourselves safe as best we can and try to hold on.  There are a couple of people whose pictures I might start throwing darts at, though ;)  xx

Twoapenny:
Well our death rates are fairly low and so are the numbers of positive cases.  I'm not confident we're being given accurate information.  We've had BLM demos, thousands descending on beaches (half a million on one beach, they had to declare it a public emergency), very little social distancing in supermarkets, very low numbers of people wearing masks - and we've low numbers of the virus, a lower death rate - and an enforced local lockdown in one part of the country.  It doesn't make sense to me that of the millions of people that have been in very close contact with one another very few got ill, when during the lockdown we had in excess of 1,000 deaths a day.  I know those people would have caught it before the lockdown but it still doesn't make sense to me that the risk isn't there now?  We've still got people coming in daily from overseas and they've opened the pubs this weekend (but still no schools - how do you open pubs before schools and libraries?  Surely you can manage good hygiene and social distancing in schools and libraries better than you can in buildings full of drunk people?).  I don't understand how we've gone from 'you can catch it off your groceries, wash everything and don't open your mail for three days' to 'accumulate by the thousand, get drunk out your face, do what you like and it's okay' without any kind of preventative medicine, effective treatment, efficient test and trace (Johnson couldn't even say the words during the briefing, he fluffed it three times.  Twat) or any kind of mask wearing going on.  It doesn't add up to me.  So we'll be carrying on staying home for now, whatever is being opened up or going on.

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