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Twoapenny:
Aw, the swimming sounds lovely, Hopsie! Yes, I'll be getting myself loaded up with any shot for anything I can get lol, I had a great night's sleep after my first jab!
The problem I'm seeing here (and I don't know if it's the same over there) is the way that information can be presented to fit an argument. So at the moment, a fair chunk of people who are dying from it have been vaccinated. It makes sense; it doesn't guarantee you won't get seriously ill so some people will still die if they catch it and they'd generally be older or have underlying conditions. The unvaccinated here are mostly younger, healthier people, and that's only because they haven't all been offered it yet - uptake generally is good, as I understand it. But of course, they're less likely to die from it or need hospital treatment anyway, so people are using those stats as proof that the vaccine is killing people - it's not being presented in a fact based context, there's a lot of scare mongering and I think that puts some people off. It's too difficult to figure it all out. Social media's played a big role, I think. Not right, in my opinion.
Encouragingly, a lot of people I've spoken to are still very cautious about the virus and they've said they'll carry on wearing masks for as long as the virus is still going. Often because they've older parents or vulnerable relatives that they want to try to keep safe. I'm hoping it's not going to get as bad as it was. I think you're so much bigger over there that some of your states are like countries in their own right almost. I guess it's much smaller here. They've all been out at the football though, which I think was bonkers - tens of thousands of people and apparently they weren't checking vaccine status (which they were supposed to) before entry so who knows how that will play out. I'm keeping things crossed. I just wish the media was a bit more responsible, in all its forms. Enjoy the swim, Hopsie, it sounds lovely! xx
Hopalong:
From a comment on the Washington Post today:
People are feeling a false sense of security and immunity from the virus because of vaccination status but the Delta variant changes things. My fully vaccinated 66 year old husband, son in law, four month old granddaughter, two year old granddaughter and now my daughter and daughter in law have developed Covid in the last week from a family gathering in our home. We did not engage in any high risk exposure and all adults were fully vaccinated. We stopped wearing masks and let our guard down. We did not think it could happen to us. It did!
Please remain vigilant and continue to wear your mask. This virus is not through with us.
Hopalong:
Another smart WashPost commenter:
....Prior to the CDC's surprise announcement, NC had a indoor mask mandate in place with a plan in place to go to the next phase of loosening when we hit specific vaccination targets.
The state rescinded the mask mandate within a day or two of the CDC announcement even though we were far short of the target vaccination level laid out in the plan. The decision about masking was kicked down to the individual business level.
Some businesses stuck with across-the-board masking for about a week, but then everyone bowed to pressure and posted that masking was not required for the vaccinated. But of course there was no way to verify whether a person is vaccinated or not.
Almost everyone abandoned their masks even though it is clear that many unvaccinated people were not masking. In fact, the only group still wearing masks in any numbers were seniors (and near seniors like me). Which of course was the age group most likely to be already be vaccinated - the 65+ group was running at a 25 - 30% higher vaccination level than the adult population as a whole in NC. The group least likely to wear masks was, naturally, the group least likely to be vaccinated - in other words young people who were "over" Covid.
So basically, behavioral science led to the opposite outcome of what the hard science suggested would be best. All because of people who, when given a choice to either mask or get the vaccine, chose "neither of the above".
It seems entirely predictable to me considering the polarization and general selfishness in our society. Only the CDC was naive enough to think it would go otherwise.
Twoapenny:
There seems to be a lot of confusion over vaccines preventing infection; it's been made clear over here that doesn't happen right from the outset but the message doesn't seem to have got through. Our case numbers here are through the roof and today is officially 'Freedom Day' - no more restrictions in any way. Complete madness. I went to the shop early this morning and most people were still wearing masks. I just can't see an end in sight all the time airports are still open and people are moving about so much. Son's annoyed that the papers are saying 'You can take your mask off' and I'm saying 'No you can't'. He understands, but it annoys him that messages are mixed. Everyone's exhausted, I feel so sorry for the people who have to work through it all and don't have any choice in the matter. So hard for all of them to cope.
Re vaccines, I do know several people who've caught Covid since being jabbed - they've been ill for a couple of days and then okay. That is encouraging, at least xx
lighter:
My brother was dx'd with Covid. He texted he's been to the doctor's twice, labs are ok..... he's bunkered down at home.
We had lots of questions. He answered 2. Said it feels like the flu. He doesn't think he needs help.
I pray he doesn't have a tough time and there's no lasting health issues.
Lighter
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