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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #300 on: July 18, 2021, 12:56:54 PM »
To me, it just sounds like the man is in love with you and has an old-school sense of honor.

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #301 on: July 18, 2021, 01:39:08 PM »
::sigh::.

Sometimes things getting worked out is just that, even if it feels like the world flying apart bc old experiences and reactivity, don't'cha know.

You and B seem to have distilled things down to manageable pieces and understandings.  As much as can be managed, at any rate.

Well done.

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #302 on: July 18, 2021, 03:00:29 PM »
11 more days...  :)
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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #303 on: July 18, 2021, 03:06:35 PM »
Oh, yeah!
Keep posting that countdown, we'll count with you!!!

(((((Amber & Buck, sittin' in a tree.....)))))

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #304 on: July 19, 2021, 05:57:27 AM »
Well I'm just looking forward to reading that he's there, he's unpacked and you and him are just having some fun together.  Lord knows you've both been through enough and I think this time of life - sans career plans/families to raise/issues to sort out - should just be fun.  I know the other stuff still applies - business, ongoing grown up kid stuff etc - but no-one else is your responsibility and more and I want to hear about you and Buck out on a tractor in matching lime green jumpsuits and cowboy hats :)  Lol xx

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #305 on: July 19, 2021, 08:32:52 AM »
Lime green isn't either of our colors... and I know his suggestion would be cowboy hats and no clothes. LOLOLOLOLOL. (I'd better order a case of sunscreen.) To the point, we're designing signal flags to warn Hol to call first before just dropping by - so she doesn't need a subscribe & save for eye bleach as the old farts play. You know, nekkid Taco Tuesday.... full moon bonfires and dances in the moss...

<insert frozen wide, emotionally scarred for life, eyes>

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

None of that is seriously planned of course. It's just fun; and the man is infinitely creative at coming up with stuff like this... that I think he's found & re-activated my play button. What's that saying - it might be lyrics to an old Little Feat song - The Old Folks Boogie - about the body not being able to keep up with ideas, feelings, and imagination??



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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #306 on: July 19, 2021, 08:49:02 AM »
I think naked moss dancing bonfires should be mandatory.
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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #307 on: July 19, 2021, 12:52:28 PM »
YOU be naked.
It will be kinder to everyone if I wear a mumu.

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #308 on: July 22, 2021, 08:21:29 AM »
7 days and counting...

and the separation I've been able to maintain between knowing the long wait meant I had to keep going & doing - and the upwelling energy & emotion of knowing he'll be sitting next to me soon - OH LOOK! What's that bright light in the sky peeking out through the clouds of putting one foot in front of the other and doing what "needs doing"?

My two favorite words he tells me about preparations is "it's casual". Says we'll figure out the "doing" when he's here. My least favorite word is: SOON. If I just let emotion make my decisions, it's not soon enough for me.

But there are some things I've wanted to do - address - before he gets here; it's all on the necessary list but I haven't been able to focus on them till now. Doing those doesn't have any "feeling" attached beyond the satisfaction of establishing a bit more order in my space. Making room for "new". I couldn't focus because of how much energy was involved in stopping myself yearning for the impossible and not having a deadline.

Then, there was the interference of having Hol trying to completely second-guess my feelings and decision based on some fears of hers, that she CAN admit (without prompting) are slightly irrational. I don't know if they are strictly her own fears either. I suspect, don't know, suspect that she's simply absorbed someone else's fear and is championing that cause to me (again). I am definitely picking up undercurrents this week, that she is purposely giving me my space and holding her tongue. For whatever her reasons are. We still connect about every day for a little bit and share ideas, accomplishments, etc. I expect sometime over this weekend we'll have another of our "check-in" hangouts.

She will be working the first week or so that B is here. And then S will be working for about a month out of state. So there will some time for her, to - on her own - take a second chance to get to know B. Without pre-judging, hopefully. But I can't control any of that and since she's not convinced that her Hut world will remain intact (B is having all kinds of projections thrown at him -- even as far as "willing" nature to create difficulties out of thin air - LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL - talk about irrational) she just has to have some experience before trusting, that all will be well.

For some reason, she's less eager to review the land lease agreement now than she was initially. I don't know what's going on and I'm leaving her some space to sort out whatever is going on with her - and S. Mom's a little busy this week. We'll touch base this weekend. An easy explanation is that she's trying to quit smoking and it's always harder if you're around someone who is. It could be that's all it is. And it could be she's accepted that I will - within my responsibility of farm manager - make it as possible for everyone to do and be as comfortable and safe and free to live, as I can.

She is busy; sorting out her sewing studio. Came back from B'more Monday with a bunch of new leather hides she got half off. She's got a nice stash now. The plan is to get her business from home organized; make some things and "test market" them. Looks like I might be back in the web design business again... since B is planning the same sort of thing in a different medium. Hol and I are going to learn patternmaking for sewing too. That's a logical next step because commercial patterns simply aren't covering the types of things we want to make.

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So, I'm not worrying about all this. Just winging it and finding spaces to relax & take care of me. Take things as they come.
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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #309 on: July 22, 2021, 10:07:09 AM »
Amber:

If you had another month, only, to love your farm and Hol and kitties....what would that feel like?

I wish there was an easier way to see everything around us through fresh eyes, focused on what's around us.  Not looking ahead to what needs done next.

We miss being present, ime.  We miss the joy in every moment, ime.

It's a shame being present can't be bottled.

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #310 on: July 22, 2021, 11:25:57 AM »
((((Amber)))))

Do you WANT to have "another weekend hangout checkin" with Hol this weekend?

Do you want to be alone, enjoying your preparations in the present? Unconcerned with convincing/persuading/proposing/placating Hol's interfering fears?

I'm glad she's trying to quit smoking. If that makes her back off from you a bit, that's good for you both! Maybe she's finally turning a little bit away from YOUR life and choices and focusing more on her own.

Maybe it would be healthier for you both not to be wedded to an every-weekend big discussion? Could the farm work okay with a few less of those? And particularly, maybe the door to analysing/explaining/reminding/suggesting ways for her to think about B should be shut now?

It will all unfold. Everybody is an adult. Y'all can figure it out as you go. You deserve distance, privacy, space in which to live and enjoy your very own relationship. Belongs to you. Not to Hol or Steve or even to your farm. B is YOUR business.

"Don't poke the river; it flows by itself."

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #311 on: July 22, 2021, 12:38:40 PM »
Yes, CB.  Hear, hear to good boundaries, always.

I put a stop on the mail for 30 days while we figure out what size PO box to purchase.  It's 80.00 or 200.00 a year, depending on the size.  I just don't have the bandwidth to think that through.

And..... this is the wrong thread, but I do want to say.... my Father set up caretaker/live in maid to have access to funds, pay bills, etc.  We don't feel bad about what she has. She deserved to have security.  A home paid for.  Children here, and we facilitated that mission, along with my father's very disturbing choices.  They  impacted our lives, as well as his.  Caretakers life got easier, in ways and harder.  Certainly her income improved and it should have.  I would have voted in a pay hike had she brought it up.

The stuck point, for me, is the stock in our name and my late father's name....which she was used to taking..... while dad lived it was exactly as it should have been.  We didn't know how much it was and she misrepresented what it was before and after he passed away.  Our bad.  Not hers.  Creature of opportunity and that's human nature.  She was worthy of security. I'm glad she has that, but at the point it's being hidden from sis executor..... taken out of sister's mail on counter.... it becomes something else, IMO. 

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #312 on: July 23, 2021, 10:18:00 AM »
Yes, Hops. I want to be in the loop on what's going on around here. So do they.

Fortunately, naval gazing, analyzing me (and everyone else) and being intrusively critical doesn't seem to be as important to her since she got it all out the last couple times and she knows I care and have been hearing her the whole time. I can see that trait is still there, but she's currently managing it differently. I think she's finally figured out what function it was serving in her life - in the past; sees it's less relevant/useful to her in the present; and deep down she would like to moderate it, or let it go. She's doing massive work on boundaries these past few months. I'm just one of the people in her life that she's had to decide - more intentionally - whether she's getting what she needs or not and why not; if she was part of the problem.

It's good for both her & I to have a girl's get together weekly. It becomes a new form of "social activity", because even though we - of necessity - talk every day, it's real brief and impersonal. Whichever of us is going to town, checks to see if the other needs anything - eggs, milk, whatever. She gives me updates or a show & tell of the organization and sorting process she's going through, to be able to comfortably work in her tiny sewing room/studio. That kind of thing. Gets us out of our own 4 walls (we use the studio) for a change of scenery that's comfy. She finds new music to share... and vice versa.

So, boundaries are being redrawn and re-established... but with the one promise that when one of us has some big ugly buzzard sitting on our heads, we CAN talk to each other about it. Our relationship has gone from not living together for 20 some years - and then on vacation weekends, etc. really getting a chance to be an "us" again (with those personal boundaries intact)... to she and S were living in my house, while the Hut was being built (not comfortable for any of us, and there were friction points & conflicts... and yet overall, it worked and we're still speaking to each other mostly civilly most days) and we're still establishing how it's going to work between the cabin & Hut; we need to spend more time in the new Hut-neighbor space; she & S have to figure out how they want that to work, versus how I actually need it work (and there just isn't that much I'm asking of them) and that new form of "life on the farm" is still being settled. I think she heard me when I said I still wanted her to have her own separate life - no matter what that entails; I'll be fine - even though we're on the same chunk of the earth. I don't "need" to be taken care of and neither does she. But there are times and jobs when it's much easier & safer with more than one set of hands. She consults me on a lot of creative projects. Or not too - because when she's in her zone, I know to just sit back and wait because it's always amazing what she's concocting.

And now, into the mix comes B. LOLOLOLOL. There are a lot of different eddies, pools, and currents in the stream of life around here. The kids are just getting started on their own place - and regardless of qualitative judgements - anyone else in the mix would be disruptive; a new energy to understand, find ways to work with, and be comfortable with. So I can appreciate where, from their perspective, it feels too fast. But from B's and mine - this has been coming together gradually over years. I remember when his D STARTED HS and his concerns. I remember the beginning of this 5 year medical nightmare. Over the years, we moved from casual acquaintances to friends to whatever creative name we could give this form of commitment. So, for me - I took in information about him slowly, gradually, organically. I was able to cross-reference. For them, it was a fait accompli - boom - this new person is getting dropped into the slightly unstable mix of the 3 of us, which is still a work in progress. Of course, they feel more disruption and trepidation. Even more confusing, is how long it's taking - allowing more time for imagination and worries to rise to the top.

Part of her expectation to have a window into B and me, is her oversharing tendency about her relationship. I keep having to tell her TMI.... even as I realize she's asking for an outside opinion, a way to manage things differently, etc. ADVICE. She expects the same kind of full disclosure from her girlfriends, I think. It's a shade or two different with your mom, IMO. But I DO accept that her curiosity and concern comes from a caring (albeit interfering) place. And I think she's finally realizing it's not her job to manage other people, educate them, and she's kinda at that gawky stage. Because of Hol, I'm learning to not take what other people think or their "observations" or opinions personally. We're both readjusting and redrawing boundaries. The first time B came to stay a week, they were still living in my house... and without anything more than a note on the counter... they quietly tiptoed out the door to give us privacy for the evening. So, I think I've been able to show her ways that this two households, one property can be possible - without anyone being unduly restricted, uncomfortable, or interfered with.

There's no pattern or formula or recipe for how this can succeed. But through experience, I've learned that communication is the MOST important thing. Genuine, authentic, sometimes difficult and uncomfortable communication. And the two people here who can do that the best - and respond like adults - that we know of, are us - Hol and I. We can settle conflicts; and while most people would shy away from the intensity of feelings we can spar with AT TIMES doing that... the majority of time, increasingly so, we're able to just talk it through, respectfully - but more bluntly and honestly than many people communicate between each. For very quiet introverts, Hol & I ARE scary when we get loud & intense. (Reminds me of the gelato commercial with an Italian couple having a very "vigorous" discussion.)

But both Hol and I know, that our relationship is flexible and strong enough to endure that - and so it's faster and more direct to hash things out, find out what each wants, and find a new way to continue forward. She has her strengths; I have mine. Occasionally we have to force each other to see those strengths; we're both more accustomed to admitting our weakness. I noticed a long time ago, that some people seem to feel that any disagreement or conflict is an indication that the relationship is ending. It become a simplified, kids-book understanding of "happy", versus "upset & angry" and an either/or equation. As if relationships can't withstand any conflict or disagreeableness. Where does THAT idea come from?? Divorces? I dunno. But I've seen it be a very real thing in a lot of people.

I stopped trying to crystallize time and life into some stable, predictable in the large scale, and repetively boring routine a very long time ago. I think that's another Currier & Ives postcard of an ideal life that doesn't exist in reality. That was an important point for me; almost as important as realizing that nothing external is going to be able to provide me that feeling of "security". Everything external that people associate with "security" can change or go away. Peace thru acceptance of "what is" - and knowing that change is constant - is something that's more a recent "plateau" for me. And being able to see, feel and enjoy peace (without defining it to death) around here is part of this place's therapeutic energy. The three - and soon to be four - of us here, are stewards of that peace and restorative energy. B remarked on it, during his first visit. That means maintaining good relationships and being willing and able to work together as needed. Open communication, the ability to be vulnerable - but respected equally. Everyone's needs are important; the ability of pursue one's interests without arbitrary rules/regulations imposed by someone else here... without impacting someone else's ability to do the same and a way (there are more than one or two) to resolve conflicts are kinda the way I see this working.

LOLOLOL.... and I would really worry about my cognitive & mental health, if I expected that to work smoothly all the time, that everyone would be aware of it, ALL the time... or capable of cooperating with it, ALL the time. I know my self too well, sometimes. I will slip that into the "ideal" state from time to time; thinking ideal can be real for more than a moment of sense of peace. I know Hol will shred that and throw a little reality and human nature my way... or wake me up some other way. And I return the favor - maybe on a different aspect - if asked and/or it's clear it's needed. That's not a boundary violation, IMO. That's actually caring about each other. And honest & brave enough to talk about it as we can - with the full knowledge that it DOES NOT risk the relationship itself. For this to work, requires effort from everyone. Doesn't have to be the same kind of effort, ya know?

Which brings us back around to boundaries. Are they firm, steel fences with no gates, and never changing? Are they BW and forever? With any and all relationships? Or are they constantly shifting with each person, the life circumstances, their age/maturity... I guess I'm understanding that a boundary needs to adapt, be flexible and change with other changes or it will prevent connection. And I think Hol is learning that too. WHAT she's learning might be different (I would certainly HOPE so) because she's lived a different life.

Hol & I talk about things like this; have always for decades from time to time. It's not all that easy to find other people to discuss life & universe with, intelligently. So we blend all that rambling kind of "supposing" with the personal too. Through this level of connection & relationship we reaffirm how we're each unique, with our own strengths/weaknesses, life lesson "plans", and also where we kinda overlap and have things in common. She was reading Doesteivsky, Nitschke, etc (sp?) in HS; and has expanded on that across subject matter since then.
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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #313 on: July 23, 2021, 11:32:30 AM »
Amber:

About what you said..... about communication being the MOST important thing.

I agree and to the degree one frets over and puts off certain communications indicates have much caretaking of other's feelings one deals, IME. 

It's easy to speak and say what's what if one isn't worrying down the path about a difficult response they might recieve or how they'll manage that reaction. 

I'm glad Hol seems to be growing and reflecting about life on the farm and communicating with you.  Trusting you and herself more, it seems.  Boundaries around feelings..... learning how  to stop feeling responsible for other's emotions..... makes things so much easier, my word. So much easier.  It's like looking through 2 different telescopes sometimes.

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Re: 2021 Farm Log
« Reply #314 on: July 23, 2021, 01:04:45 PM »
Agreed Lighter. And your point about staying rooted in the present is ALSO very applicable here.

Both Hol & I kinda present a "preamble" when bringing up a touchy topic, so there's usually fair warning the convo might get intense. I basically don't do it much anymore these days, unless I am truly worried that it's emotionally difficult and that it might be misunderstood; taken wrong. She is starting to give up the speech mannerism, because she realizes it's like apologizing for her feelings and asking permission to HAVE those feelings at the same time. It's always a much better conversation without without that. Everyone's owning their own feelings and opinions - and even conveying empathy or compassion or simply respect for a differing feeling or opinion - because eliminating the elaborate preamble makes more space.

But this kind of thing is always two steps forward; one back. There are good days and not so good days. But it's clear we're both trying and the communication is the beginning of respect and that removes alot of the perceived need for "caretaking" or worse things. Example seems to be teaching her some things (maybe) - along with the amount of reading she does.

The last B tirade, didn't make me retreat to lick my wounds. I didn't stop talking to her. Life went on while I thought about things and she did too. And then we started working on needs & solutions; validations and respect for different perceptions/feelings... and it seems to have pushed her to a clearer space. And there is no awkwardness between us. For now.   ;)
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