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DD18 seeing nutritional response practitioner (NRP)
lighter:
Really rough morning, but not with food. Applegate ham, Turkey and breakfast sausages are expensive, but easy quick meals, at least for me. I enjoy avocado, tomato and primal mayo wrapped up in ham...si quick. Has everything. No cooking.
Last night dd20 sat and talked with me as I happily munched down an entire package of ham like that. Perfectly ripe avocado and tomatoes....mixed greens already washed.
Dd20 said she'd likely want to eat the same thing when she gets home from work today. That would be great since she's been living in ramen noodles like a college student. It's devastating to her health.
We clean out fridges and freezers this weekend.
I decided to get rid of the non stick pans, which will serve several purposes.. decluttering, organizing and any health risks nonstick coatings pose. Anyone research nonstick coatings?
Amber, using terms like "prescriptive" eating appeals to me very much. No hoo hoo hippy in that to trigger people. My brother and his gf were super defensive about food after his gall bladder removal. My sister and I went a little frantic sending and making food...,trying to explain eating clean vs eating inflammatory foods. Even after sis and I stopped talking about it, brother and particularly gf just kept talking and talking about it. I wanted to stab my ears till so finally pointed out they were the only ones still talking about it. I knew I wasn't their mother. I agreed what they are was none of my business. I stopped short of apologizing for caring and going out of my way to do what I could....trying to help in my own way.
It's the same feeling I had when I tried to stop my father's brain surgery debacle. I so clearly SEE where it's leading. The consequences will affect my life too, but it's not my business.
CB, it IS hard raising kids around everyone else's kids whoofing down McDonald's and candy and cokes. It got better once we moved here, but it's exhausting. I would have had more grocery store breakdowns if I had diabetic children, I can tell you that.
Taking a break from cooking 3 meals a day is helping. If we can clean out freezers, begin stocking easy to heat leftovers and organizing the food and travel better....foid will get easier.
Thbanks for the input. It's helpful.
Lighter
Twoapenny:
Lighter, I personally don't offer advice or suggestions to the majority of people any more. I've found over the years that whatever the other person's situation is (and whatever it is that might help them) that if they want to find out or know about something, they'll ask or go looking for it. There are some people I know are open to it but I think most of us are on a path and other people offering information that involves change maybe feels more stressful? People who know me know my lifestyle and know which things I know plenty about, and they know I'm happy to help. So if someone asks, I'll say, but other than that I tend to not mention things - or I might mention once (if you want info about x then I've got some you can have) and I leave it there. One example is a friend of mine who had cancer a good while ago (ten years or so). I had a cancer scare when my son was young - pap smear result suggested cancer was present and urgent action was needed. I bought a nutrition book, ate everything it suggested and took large doses of the supplements they listed. I had further exploratory tests done a few weeks later and everything came back clear. The doctors were so surprised they thought there had been a mix up at the lab and sent everything back to be tested again. I don't know whether those large doses of vitamins cleared that cancer away or if it was a mistake and it wasn't there in the first place, but it didn't hurt me to take them so I'd do it again in the same situation, you know?
So when my friend got cancer I bought her that book, bought some of the supplements listed in it for her, kept sending her articles about don't eat this, don't touch that and so on. She ignored pretty much all of it, cut down on smoking and drinking but didn't stop, the cancer did go away but the treatment was aggressive and made her very ill. She has the cancer again now and I did send her some info about getting hold of cannabis to treat it (it's illegal here but there's a 'network' of people that grow and supply it for medical situations) but she's not gone down that road. It's unlikely she'll survive, even with treatment and if it were me I'd be rubbing bird poo in my eyes if there was some random chance it might help but she isn't and that's her choice. I think maybe that's the thing - other people's choices are theirs to make. It's hard but I think we can only walk our own path and other people have to walk theirs. i am liking the sound of avocado, tomato and ham wraps :) You're doing a grand job xx
lighter:
So true, Tupp. We can't walk anyone else's path. No matter how badly we'd like to help.
Lighter
lighter:
NRP listed coconut oil and ghee as safe for higher heat cooking. Olive oil for lower heats. Avocado oil good, forget what for.
Pretty much everything else is bad, so we threw out the grapeseed oil we'd been using for some high heat cooking.
By the time NRP explained Canola oil, from Canada, originally used for engines or something mechanical till someone got the idea CHEAP, let's sell it for cooking oil too...I was not ok.
When water came up, RO filters were, in her opinion, best. The expensive little Britta filters were "useless."
Before Covid I was schlepping 5g water bottles to fill with RO water, but switched to the Britta, bc I didn't have to leave the house to manage it.
For some reason, and partially bc I'm already stressed, and my brother had just asked why his kids, who eat junk, are healthy as horses while my kids aren't....
I just lost the thread of keeping myself together.
I reminded my brother, gently, in that earlier discussion his DD had seizure disorder and ADHD when she was very young and her Neuro doc finally admitted to my brother nutrition played a large part.
Brother drifted away from the subject at that point, but I was picturing my niece, blue, dead in his arms as far as he could tell, terrified......I was thinking about his son's skin problems, and then my brother's gallbladder surgery and fatty liver and how often I'm left standing there....truly horrified I'm"right" again came to mind. I'm so tired, bone deep, of being " right."
Then I had a flashback...
My brother didn't know I secured my father's MRIs from the hospital, made 2 appts with neurosurgeons and attempted to stop my father's brain surgery, bc it was likely to go worse than it actually did.
And there's something for my mindfulness thread, bc I have always neeeeded people around me to be OK, responsible, just.
So, yesterday when the NRP talked about the chemicals we shower with and drink and eat I was not ok.
I couldn't really form words. Or breathe. Pretty much all day.
She stopped the session and suggested I "see someone I can talk to" The despair dropped away for a moment. I've heard that so many times. Oh....and I'm supposed to breathe out of one nostril of my completely clogged up nose. I saw the humor...for a moment.
It's really difficult to eat clean, healthy food exclusively.
It's compounded by everyone I know and love, almost exclusively, eating chemicals and unbelievable amounts of sugar at every meal and snack.
All around me.
Sometimes smugly.
Maybe it's old trauma from Dad's brain debacle. Maybe I'll outlive my little brother and watch his likely BPD ex wife parent my now grown niece and nephew into....
See? I knew this belonged on the mindfulness thread.
I'm going to try breathing for a while.
Lighter
Twoapenny:
Aw, Lighter ((((((Lighter))))))))). It is hard to manage these big changes, new information, old stuff coming up, and then smug conversations with people eating burgers :) I think the thing with health is that so much is hidden, and we all start from different places. I remember moaning about people I knew (when I was seeing a nutritionist) who smoked, drank, ate loads of crap, while I was busy making beetroot and carrot juice at 5 in the morning and spending most of my day washing and prepping veggies and 'healthy' cakes for son. I said "it's not fair - we've got loads of health stuff to deal with and they don't have any health problems at all". She said, "they don't have health problems - yet". People can be literal ticking time bombs; we all know someone who just had a massive heart attack and dropped dead, despite never having had any heart problems that they knew of, and others who live a really healthy lifestyle in order to cope with trauma from childhood or rehabilitate after addiction and they still get ill - there can be so many factors, some within our control, some not. You're doing what's right for you, and that need to be responsible for everyone else can cause sooooo much stress. Maybe just take a break from people for a while, so you don't see others eating all that stuff and you can just focus on what you need to do. It's alright for it all to feel crappy for a while, under the duvet with ham and avocado is perfectly fine for a while xx
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