Author Topic: Anything again  (Read 134 times)

Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Anything again
« on: February 17, 2026, 02:03:11 PM »
Artist Name: Miles Johnston

Art: "Withdrawal"
Art: "Persona Revolution"
Art: "Percept"

Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Re: Anything again
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2026, 03:01:17 PM »
"It isn’t a conversation because a conversation requires mutuality and new information. What you are describing is a monologue with a required witness.

Why It’s Not Conversing
A real conversation is a "zero-sum" exchange where both people are changed or informed by the interaction. What the narcissist does is different:

Fixed Outcomes: In a conversation, the direction is unknown. With a narcissist, the "end" is already decided: they must be seen as the person with the "correct" taste.

Performance vs. Exchange: They aren't looking for your perspective on the subject; they are looking for a reflection. You are a mirror, not a participant.

The "Captive Audience" Dynamic: Conversations are voluntary. This is a hostage situation where silence is treated as a provocation and disagreement is treated as a "wrong" answer to a task you never applied for."

lighter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8989
Re: Anything again
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2026, 01:14:14 PM »
That last paragraph is so familiar, Meh. 

Your ability to see the behaviors, observe them, with some emotional detachment is huge, IME.

Just take care of yourself....limit contact, as you need/can. 

Lighter


Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Re: Anything again
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2026, 03:53:30 PM »

"They aren't looking at the food because they’re hungry; they’re looking at it because it belongs to you, and they want to see if they can get a reaction out of you by interacting with it."

Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Re: Anything again
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2026, 03:57:26 PM »
That last paragraph is so familiar, Meh. 

Your ability to see the behaviors, observe them, with some emotional detachment is huge, IME.

Just take care of yourself....limit contact, as you need/can. 

Lighter

Thanks Lighter.

Yes take care of oneself definitely has to be the ultimate goal. True true. And for whatever reason sometimes it's helpful to be told it.

Take care of oneself.
Take care of oneself....

Hopalong

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13816
Re: Anything again
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2026, 04:02:45 PM »
I hope my intution's right, but I keep thinking I'm hearing more light, less darkness, more freedom, and less self-abandonment from you, Meh.

Makes my heart feel good even if I'm just imagining it for you.

hugs
Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."

lighter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8989
Re: Anything again
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2026, 07:02:37 PM »
Take care of oneself ...
Take care of oneself.....
Sort of hypnotizing, isn't it, Meh?
 Mantra and meditation.


Hops....I see what you see....
Hear hear to abandoning self abandonment.
Yes.
Lighter

Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Re: Anything again
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2026, 01:08:14 PM »

"Trust Your Reality: You aren't "missing the joke." There wasn't one. You're just refusing to participate in the delusion that their every thought is fascinating or funny."

I know this one seems mild but when I read it I realize that they try to force a few weak people into their logic all the time and if one does not agree to their logic or creates an entirely different narrative it frustrates them, bores them or some combo.

Most people I think are probably accustomed to knowing that others do not find their every mundane though deeply captivating. That delusion that their every thought is fascinating or funny.

It's just profound to me because the N has sort of perverted the concept of funny, fun, etc.

Their "jokes" are bids for attention it's NOT meant to make another person laugh. It's so stupid and pathetic really.

It's still morning still more time to get things done. It only takes action steps. Small action steps to get things done.

lighter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8989
Re: Anything again
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2026, 04:59:26 PM »
This is just the right thread for this, Meh.

"When we stop fighting, pulling and denying, and running - when we sit, even briefly, with what unsettles us - each moment begins to offer its lesson: that nothing is lifeless, nothing is void of Love. Even silence, when met with presence, begins to sing.  And here is the paradox: all that is beautiful in life, all that matters, all that carries grace, does not come when we grasp for it - not by thinking its ours to force into being. We push against life like a river fighting its own pull, forgetting both its Source and the vast ocean it longs to join."

--Lee Jampolsky

Meh

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2801
Re: Anything again
« Reply #9 on: Today at 12:56:47 AM »

That above sounds existential. I read it twice. I'm not sure how to use it.

I just want peace and privacy and solutions and ease and to be far away from the narcissist forever.

Had an issue with them-N today where they view my life as their TV-like entertainment. They got in my face and glared at me and I reiterated to them that I don't like to be glared at. Then they ended up saying that I was very stressed and "we're going to have to do something about your stress." There is more context but I've already complained privately to myself about it in a journal. Though I am thinking how at least now we have the concern trolling phrase thanks to modern pop culture speak I guess.

Narcissist does something unsettling and pointless to center themselves for attention and to poke a reaction of of someone and then targets their victim more by saying "we have to do something about your stress." I had to tell them multiple times just to leave me alone.

"The term "concern troll" was first defined in mainstream media by Time magazine in December 2006, following its popularization in online forums and political blogs around 2005–2006. It describes someone who poses as a concerned party to disrupt, undermine, or derail a discussion."

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages
con·cern trol·ling
noun derogatory•informal
noun: concern trolling
the action or practice of disingenuously expressing concern about an issue in order to undermine or derail genuine discussion.
"there seems to be a lot of concern trolling in the second half of this article"

sKePTiKal

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5602
Re: Anything again
« Reply #10 on: Today at 08:16:31 AM »
Huh. I never heard of "concern trolling" before. But it is a thing, isn't it - among those who wish to be hero-saviors and think they know so much about everyone that they have the answer. It's certainly a behavior with a range of motivations possible.
Success is never final, failure is never fatal.

lighter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8989
Re: Anything again
« Reply #11 on: Today at 10:16:14 AM »
Regarding, Concerned Trolling.....

::mentally pointing at A.... while wondering if it's sometimes me meee meeeeeeeee::.


I really like what Meh said...
"I just want peace and privacy and solutions and ease and to be far away from the N forever."

Feels like another flowing mantra....it has a satisfying ring to it.

Lighter





Hopalong

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13816
Re: Anything again
« Reply #12 on: Today at 07:50:02 PM »
(((Meh)))) --
How much can you control how often you have to be in their actual presence?

I know it might be realistically complex for various real-reasons... but wonder how much you HAVE to see them, in the present and the flesh?

They're so toxic to you. But I envision you FREE.
I dunno how much distance you can manage, but hope you can manage more.

hugs
Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."