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graficdiva

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« on: January 12, 2005, 01:45:21 PM »
i've been readig about voicelessness and am intrigued that i find myself in the same relationships over and over again. i'm pretty, smart, talented, look 10 yrs. younger than my age, and keep finding myself attracted to N's that don't give me enough (attention, love, emotional intimacy). i've been in therapy for years and have been seeing a new therapist for the last 3 months. intellectually i understand that i am attracted to these good looking, creative, self-absorbed men that never give me the love i need. and so, the relationship i'm in is about to end...my ending it, because i know he does not respect me and is only interested in himself. and i read about what i do and i listen to therapists and i just keep making the same mistakes. and it makes me hate myself...truly...because i'll never find someone who will treat me well and that i can find a symbiotic, healthy love affair with.

just felt like writing this down. nobody can really give me answers. therapy doesn't give me answers. i'm feeling pain about this relationship, which really when i look at it was all about sex and not really very deep.

don't know if there are adults on this site. i'm 48, the single mother of 2 teenagers.

in pain...in search of why i do this...

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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2005, 02:10:33 PM »
I find it interesting that you need to state how you look 10 years younger than your age.  Do you realize that is a trait of N?

Just my observation for what it is worth?  

What's your relationship like with your two children?

graficdiva

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2005, 02:26:38 PM »
you're right. i never said i didn't have a bit of an N in me too. maybe i've been doing internet dating too long and my "voice" gets mixed up.

i am very close with my kids, they're dad passed away in front of them 5 yrs ago. they are very independent.

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2005, 02:31:49 PM »
Welcome. This love you need: often this is left-over childhood problems (as you may well know?). Have you discussed your childhood in therapy? Does it make any sense to you how it relates to your love relationships?

graficdiva

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2005, 02:44:22 PM »
my problem is i have discussed my childhood in therapy. i intellectually understand exactly what i was deprived and what i search for. but i can't change. i mean, i'm attracted to who i'm attracted to. does that make sense? i'm creative, out-of-the-box, unconventional. i go for people with these traits. i've tried more conventional strait-laced people. they bore me. i like a challenge...but not someeone that drives me insane. does this make any sense?

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2005, 02:48:46 PM »
why not just go at it alone for a while.  

There's nothing wrong with being alone and place your focus on your children and career.

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2005, 02:53:09 PM »
Hi graficdiva,

Good for you that you recognize the pattern of being attracted to the same type of man that is incapable of satisfying your needs.  That is the first step.  

Good for you that you are now ending a relationship that is unhealthy for you.  You are making a conscious decision to no longer tolerate being in an unhealthy relationship.

You are also in therapy to help you discover why you do this. These are all very positive things.  You are on the road to healing.  Yes, you have made the same mistake more than once.  Join the club....  it's part of being human.  

Instead of hating yourself, congratulate yourself because by recognizing your pattern, by ending the unsatisfying relationship and by being in therapy you are now being good to yourself, because you are not accepting bad relationships anymore and you are taking steps to try and make sure that you do not fall into the old trap again.  

There is never any guarantee that success will be had.  There is only committment to being observant, keep trying and learn as much as you can.

Try to be aware of the way you talk to yourself.  When I listened to the things that I said to myself, I was appalled.  I would never talk that way to anyone, not even my cat.  Yet here I was, telling myself how stupid I was.  

Start being more gentle with yourself.  Part of the reason that you might be attracted to men who don't treat you well is that....well... you don't treat yourself very well if you are self-hating.  So it's a familiar place to end up.  And, the guys know who will take it.  Learn what signals you send out that says it's okay to abuse you.

And, be nicer to yourself.  When I find myself telling myself that I am stupid, I now change it to "silly" instead of "stupid."  It's softer.  And then I find something good to say about myself to help dispel the poison.  This is sometimes hard work, but it helps to catch yourself being not nice to yourself and to change that.

Therapy is really helpful.  It helped me to discover, but therapy alone won't make the changes.  Simply getting answers doesn't change your thoughts and your behavior.  

I am 52 with three divorces to three of the same type of guy that you are breaking up with.  And that doesn't count the ones in between the marriages !!! So, yeah, I did the same thing.... kept falling for the same jerks.  It doesn't make me a bad person.  Unhappy, yes, not bad.

And, I am now, just in the last year, in a relationship that is healthy.  It is possible....  really.  So, don't say never.  Say, "I am determined to learn how to only accept healthy relationships."  

I am sorry for your pain.  It hurts .... a lot.  And you can lick your wounds .... for a while.  Just try not to get stuck there.  Good luck to you.

Sincerely,
Gingerpeach

graficdiva

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 03:00:18 PM »
thank you gingerpeach. it means a lot to have some one understand what i'm saying. i really don't want to do this anymore. i've been struggling all week about breaking up with him. and why?

it's funny. you say be alone for a while. i am my best when i'm alone. i have amazing friends. my kids are great. i get strong and confident and then fall into a trap.

i will take your advice...thanks so much for your empathetic response.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2005, 03:30:05 PM »
graficdiva,

There are some men who are incredibly attractive and they are narcissists. They are rather empty inside, so they make their outside charming, mysterious, complicated, alluring, seductive, fascinating, etc. It's not stupid to find them extremely attractive and to wish to be with them. It's not shameful to be interested in a man who makes himself very interesting and charismatic. It's normal.

The problems only come when the man turns out to be Mr. Wrong and you are once again disappointed and hurt.

There is a way to avoid this, which is to be more aware of red flags from the beginning. Here's an article many on this group have liked. I hope you also like it:

http://www.drjoecarver.com/loser.html

bunny