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« Reply #315 on: May 28, 2005, 11:18:31 PM »
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I'm almost itching to interview you!! Did your mother ever treat any of your childhood illnesses with her herbal mixes?


I haven't gotten 'round to answering your question til now.  Been away for a few days.  Hey, if anyone here is from Chicago...I just have to say, that is one terrific place to live, IMO.  Anyway, as far as I know, my mother didn't treat my childhood illnesses with herbal mixes.  But she did use some peculiar healing treatments to alleviate some my childhood illnesses.  I think they were pretty effective, cuz I'm here today to talk about it.LOL  Alot of the natural remedies she uses are not herbal per se, rather they are a concoction of dried plant roots and tree barks with medicinal values.  From my experience, they work pretty darn well.  A few months ago, I was coming done with the flu, after I drank a tea mixture of the chinese medicine, my flu symptoms were eliminated the following morning.  Pretty amazing stuff, I think.  I don't know how they made the medicine, but it worked like a charm for me.

I don't mean to discredit western medicine, but I feel a lot of it has a lot of extra chemicals added to them that may in fact do harm to the body.  For example, taking Tylenol for an extended period of time can cause liver damage.  This is something the pharmaceutical company doesn't want the public to know.  If it's not the liver, i know it's one of the major vital organs.  I'm pretty sure it's the liver though.  Then again, some herbal medicine can also cause harm to the body if not taken properly.  Of course, there are many western medicine that do wonders for many ppl.

GFN, I wonder what you learned about China from your research project.  It would be interesting to know.  

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« Reply #316 on: May 31, 2005, 09:24:58 AM »
Hi all:

Hello Brigid:

Wow!  Your garden sounds like the one I left behind.  Mostly perenials.  Not a whole lot of work because they just come up, year after year and need a little attention and that stinking weeding!  You can just enjoy them after that!  That's so lovely.  I haven't had much luck with herbs.  I tend to drown them.

It's kind of funny.  You and I did the opposite switch.

I do miss that old garden I had in the city.  I moved to the country not too long ago.  This ground is very much gravel and clay here.  There wasn't a flower in sight.  It was quite desolate (but it has the potential to be a beautiful place).  It takes lots of top soil, compost, manure and then a good thick topping of wood chips to build each garden.

I'm building what I call:  My dream garden.

Ever go to one of those big garden shows?  The really huge ones where they literally transform giant show rooms into wonder gardens?  I went to one year before last and was mesmerized.  There were so many gorgeous ideas there.  I have them all stacked in files in my head.  And this great desire to build a lovely "dream garden" of my own.

It will take years but it is already starting to show a little.  This year I planted a fairly large lilac tree, 3 smoke bushes, a smaller lilac and I'm wanting a weeping willow.  The area is huge, about 1/2 an acre, for this particular garden, so there is lot's of room.  My H put a giant steel frame for a swing and I planted clematis, and other anuals, on either end of it.  He also keeps bringing home big rocks, one of which is massive (in my book....about 5 feet long by 4 feet high), and pink, which are being placed at strategic points in the area.  There is a central garden, that I built last year and planted foxglove, and other perenials, which I grew from seed and almost all of them survived!!  It will look wonderful when they finally bloom.  I can hardly wait!  Then there's a 6 foot iron daisy my H made and stuck in the ground by one of the rocks (it's the one flower I don't have to water and it looks so cute "growing" among the bushes.   Also, there is a pile of sand waiting for me to transform into a mosaic floor with an eventual capola and tea table.  Then there's the future water garden in the works.  We've almost got all the rocks but we still need to do some work on the electrical stuff before we build it.  It may take me forever but I'm enjoying the work and each little bit that gets done adds something nice.

Butterfly:

Now that's what I mean about years of knowledge our system ignors.  Who here would consider using roots and bark to treat anything?  What a waste of helpful information, if you ask me.  Did you ever ask your mother which roots and bark those were?

To be honest, I don't really remember much about what we learned about China, (that course was many years ago), other than the lack of prevelent disease and a bit about communism and their rather simple living conditions.  Have you ever visited there?  Would you like to?  I bet you're curious?  I would be, I think.  I love the bright colours of the markets and buildings I've seen pictures of in China.  Also the lovely water colour paintings and the magnificent carvings.  It would be an enriching experience to visit there I think.

Well.......enjoy your days all!   I have much planting to do today and then out and about.  Puppy and I started a new round of doggie school last night.  Gotta fit some training in there somewhere today too!

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« Reply #317 on: May 31, 2005, 10:35:52 AM »
GFN,

Wow!  I think your dream garden will turn out magnificent. 8)   I just absolute luv lilacs and weeping willow trees.  I imagine your garden to be quite lovely.  Wouldn't it be cool if you could post a picture of your garden on this board :wink: I would be tickled to see a picture of it :D

I've never visited China before, but would love to one day.  Unfortunately, my mother doesn't know the names of the roots and tree barks in English.  Language barrier is a problem, I'm afraid.  However, she can identify a few plants and tree with medicinal values if she was to spot them.  I, on the other hand, have no clue in the matter.

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« Reply #318 on: June 01, 2005, 09:43:19 AM »
Hi again Butterfly:

Ya my dream garden will likely be very nice but it will take many years to get there.  It's something to work toward and improve each year.  When we moved here there was nothing but a field of weeds and uneven ground there.  Now, there is a perimeter of trees, bushes and big rocks about 2/3 way round, an entrance and exit and a small central garden.  It's coming along.  Yesterday I bought 2 more bushes ...weigelia and beauty bush...both with lovely pinky to rosey coloured flowers in spring.  Some day they'll be fat and loaded with bloom!  I would like also a flowering tree but they're sooo expensive.  Maybe I'll find one on sale sometime?

Do you have a garden Butterfly?

Too bad about the language barrier between your mom and you.  I bet she has a wealth of information to share.  Maybe she could write some things down in Chinese and it could be interpreted later somehow?

I am still reading "Controlling People" by Patricia Evans and she mentions that China is one of the countries where child slave labour still exists.   That is so sad to know.  If you ever visit China I would love to hear about your experience.   Here's hoping you get that chance some day!!

Hope your today is peaceful alll!!

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« Reply #319 on: June 01, 2005, 10:54:57 PM »
I do have a virtual dream garden, but not a real one yet.  GFN, I think not only will your garden look charming, but it will smell lovely too :D

Did you know that the only man-made structure an astronaut in outer space can see on earth is the Great Wall Of China?  Pretty cool, huh?

I didn't know about the child labor in China.  How very sad that child labor still exist even in the 21st century.  I think India also allows child labor, as well as many poverty-stricken countries.  How very, very sad for the children :cry:  :x  :x

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« Reply #320 on: June 03, 2005, 05:40:30 PM »
What do you think of this statement:

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you."  Eric Hoffer

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« Reply #321 on: June 04, 2005, 12:58:57 PM »
"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you."

I think it’s a reasonable idea.

So when someone rages and accuses you of, for example: “You’re always so selfish!” you can sure that they are scared stiff of being thought selfish, or being accused of it.

On the other hand, it’s best simply not to have enemies? One way I guess is not to be frightened of anyone. Just a lifetime’s work there then! :?

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« Reply #322 on: June 04, 2005, 01:24:47 PM »
Hi Portia,

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On the other hand, it’s best simply not to have enemies? One way I guess is not to be frightened of anyone.


Uhhh, I can guarantee if you aren't frightened of anyone you will have plenty of enemies. The only person with zero enemies is someone with he spine of a squid.

Eric Hoffer by the way was a longshoreman turned philosopher.
He wrote the book "The True Believer".  Indispensible for understanding fanatics of any stripe. A great read.

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« Reply #323 on: June 04, 2005, 04:40:52 PM »
Hey Portia,

Someone spent 4 yrs of her life telling just that: that I was selfish. this person had never heard of a mirror. Knowing that this person was projecting did very little to help stop the damage. It did help me to get away. Take care,

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« Reply #324 on: June 05, 2005, 08:49:04 PM »
Anger is multiple-sided topic it seems.  I guess it all depends on how you perceive anger.  Do you agree or disagree with this statement?  Just curious on what others view anger.

"The world needs anger.  The world often continues to allow evil because it isn't angry enough."  Bede Jarrett

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« Reply #325 on: June 05, 2005, 11:58:11 PM »
Not sure about the statement in it's entirety.  However, anger is essential.  It, and other strong emotions, are there because of some type of pain.  It's there to tell us something, make us take notice.
It isn't meant to be habitual, however.  It becomes habitual when we won't look at it, or run from it, drink or drug it away, etc. Then when we wake up from our hangover, or whatever....there it is again.  Pain/anger.

The only way to deal with it is to learn what it is saying.  Throw ourselves at it and explore what it's all about.....learn from it and let it go....move through. NOT letting it go is what gets us stuck....we can't shake it, mostly because we are not sure how.  We know how to avoid, but not a lot about moving through it.

Evil may indeed be fostered by ignoring/avoiding anger.  Not sure, but not dealing with something isn't always a way to eradicate it.  Then again, letting it go after learning from it and then NOT cultivating it by letting it "get to us"....it may die an uneventful death.  All depends.

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« Reply #326 on: June 06, 2005, 11:59:06 AM »
Isn’t this a great thread? Thanks GFN for Anything :D . I need a breath after that dream I posted. It's a bit close to the bone. Weird. Need to come over here and just express some surface opinions, phew :)

Hiya Mud, thanks for a diversion :D
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I can guarantee if you aren't frightened of anyone you will have plenty of enemies. The only person with zero enemies is someone with he spine of a squid.

Umm!  :? What if I’m not frightened of someone but they don’t like me – they consider that I’m their enemy? (But I don’t consider them my enemy). I honestly don’t think I have enemies as such (personal enemies). I dislike and abhor many things that people do – but my enemies? Hmmmm perhaps if I put my action where my thoughts are – went on marches, worked to stop child trafficking … would I have enemies i.e. those people I was trying to stop doing what they were doing? Okay, even if they thought that, would they be my enemies?

As you can maybe tell, this is a subject I’ve been giving some thought to of late. I really don’t think I have enemies and have trouble understanding the idea. I just don’t hate anyone enough. To be honest, I’ve always felt like this, even at school. I wondered where kids got that hate energy from, girls being vicious to each other, boys fighting etc. I was generally confused and bewildered, which makes it difficult to dislike anyone enough to think of them as enemy. Just a different take I guess.

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"The world needs anger. The world often continues to allow evil because it isn't angry enough." Bede Jarrett

I think the world as it is needs anger. I’m angry about that Spanish paedophile ring that was busted last month. That sounded as sick as it gets. Yeah, I’m angry about that. I’m angry especially as it happened in Spain, which I consider (sweeping generalisation coming up :roll: ) ‘better than’ Britain in their attitude to kids, people and families. Because it threatens my view of Spain! But being angry wouldn’t have stopped what happened there.

Why were 20+ year old men doing what they were doing? I don’t know. I don’t know why. I could hazard a guess. But being angry with them (or with society) won’t solve the problem. Understanding why people do these things might be a step nearer to stopping it. If anger leads to better understanding, I’m for anger, but not if it leads to lynchings and control by fear. The bad behaviour then goes further underground I think.

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« Reply #327 on: June 06, 2005, 12:53:39 PM »
Hi Portia,

Well, I'm not sure I get your concept of an enemy completely.
You don't have to hate someone else to have an enemy, they just have to hate you, or want something you have.

A black person doesn't need to hate white people to have the KKK as his enemy. I can think of several hundred other cases of people with enemies through the accident of birth to a particular country, race or ethnicity.
I suppose the supreme example would be Christ, who loved everyone, and yet he had sufficient enemies to nail Him to a cross.

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« Reply #328 on: June 06, 2005, 01:05:41 PM »
Hi Mud, I get you. I guess it's language again. I think if I say:

I am your enemy (no I don't mean you and me :shock: , this is an example :D ) because you hate me

but you are not my enemy - because I don't hate you.

does that make sense? I can have people who might hate me, but it doesn't mean I hate them. Hmmm I see it as reciprocal. What if we had a war and only one side came - kind of thing. I see what you mean though. anyway, better go, bye for now, portia

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« Reply #329 on: June 06, 2005, 04:28:16 PM »
Hi everyone:

Been away from here for a little while and ......wellllll.....loooky there!!! (as good old Jed Clampet would say). :D

Hey Butterfly:

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Did you know that the only man-made structure an astronaut in outer space can see on earth is the Great Wall Of China? Pretty cool, huh?


No I didn't know that and that is very cool!  Learn something every day!!  Thanks!! :D

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I didn't know about the child labor in China. How very sad that child labor still exist even in the 21st century. I think India also allows child labor, as well as many poverty-stricken countries. How very, very sad for the children


Horribly sad!  Yes India and a few other countries too (they didn't even compute because like you, I didn't think stuff like that was still going on.  I got China because I'd been speaking with you about it and it stuck and you reminded me of India).  Isn't that so awful?  Children as small as 3 and 4 working 12 to 16 hours in these stinking factories, for virtually nothing.

AND EVERYTHING WE BUY IS......MADE IN CHINA!!!! :evil:
I doubt anything. :oops:  :(  :(  :(  :(
     
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What do you think of this statement:

"You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you." Eric Hoffer



Well Guest, Guesting........it is interesting and it does make sense, imo.  I definately have enemies and..... yep......it works! :evil:

I'm with P in that I don't hate people and certainly I don't hate my "enemies" but I bet they are close to hating, if not drowning in hate toward me.  Mostly, I feel sorry for them.  They're missing a lot of life, wasting their energy like that. :roll:  Sometimes I think I make them madder by not hating. :D

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So when someone rages and accuses you of, for example: “You’re always so selfish!” you can sure that they are scared stiff of being thought selfish, or being accused of it.


Could be P, or.....worse.....afraid you will notice how selfish they are! :shock:

 
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One way I guess is not to be frightened of anyone.


It's tough for some of us but you're right, I bet.  When I think about it, when someone says something nasty.....for a split second.....I might wonder if they're right!! :oops:  :oops: (and sometimes they are but let's skip those times...heehee).  So they induce me with fear, for a short time.  Usually, though, I realize that what they're saying is just nasty and doesn't apply to me.  Then, the fear disintegrates and I'm thinking of how to respond.  I do tend to wonder what people are afraid of first and try to ease their fears, if possible.  Unfortunately for my enemies, their fears are so far from reality that they seem to be uneasable, at least by me.

If we could just skip being afraid, in the first place, we'd save time and save ourselves some discomfort.  Easy to talk about in theory but not so easy when in shock and confusion....after hearing a nasty comment, directed at us, at least in my case this is true.
 
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The only person with zero enemies is someone with he spine of a squid.


Mud, you have the mind of a marine biologist!!  You really make me giggle!!! :D  :D  :D

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Eric Hoffer by the way was a longshoreman turned philosopher.
He wrote the book "The True Believer". Indispensible for understanding fanatics of any stripe. A great read.


Got it writ down and willa be areadin' it some where, some time. :D
 
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Someone spent 4 yrs of her life telling just that: that I was selfish.
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 :(  :(  :( Sorry you took these words to heart, 2cents.  They were untrue, ignorant, mean, rotten, downright wrong words!!  I'm glad you got away!
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"The world needs anger. The world often continues to allow evil because it isn't angry enough." Bede Jarrett


Guesting:  Anger is a weird emotion isn't it?  It can protect us, I think, in dangerous situations.  I have used it, once or twice, to save my life (when some idiots tried to rob me/attack me/poor suckers!!  heehee :D -- scared 'em half to death....no kidding!!).

The Inhuit do not allow the expression of anger (or maybe it should be said....their older gerations did not.....I don't know if this is still the same now adays).  Any person who became angry enough to strike out/yell etc.... was banished from the clan.....period.  Sent out into the snow to survive or die on their own (which was a death sentence because it's pretty tough to survive up there in the really, really, great white north, without other humans assistance).

This fact has always intreged me.  Not allowed to show anger?  They considered it a deadly emotion (imagine a huge brawl breaking out in one of those tiny igloos, with infants and elderly alike being bashed around, and the very walls of the place collapsing...and everyone afterward....freezing and bloody and bruised and having to work together to rebuild the place, while still right ticked with eachother.....    It's not that hard to figger out why they thought of the emotion as deadly, I think.

But in our world now?  Anger?  Personally, I think the Inhuit had it right.  

Our anger doesn't solve a whole lot and probably makes more trouble than productive solutions.   That's what I think.  

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It isn't meant to be habitual, however.


Ya Mum!  Maybe that's what I'm trying to say.  It seems a habit to become mad first and ask questions later, for many.  

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The only way to deal with it is to learn what it is saying.


I agree.  And maybe it doesn't always have to be expressed the minute it starts to brew?  Maybe, we all would do well to repress it, a little, like the Inhuit, and figger out something more useful to do to solve problems?  

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Isn’t this a great thread? Thanks GFN for Anything  . I need a breath after that dream I posted. It's a bit close to the bone. Weird. Need to come over here and just express some surface opinions, phew


Thank P.  I love this thread!  I'll have to zip over and read about your dream!!  Bones an' all!! :D  

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To be honest, I’ve always felt like this, even at school. I wondered where kids got that hate energy from, girls being vicious to each other, boys fighting etc. I was generally confused and bewildered, which makes it difficult to dislike anyone enough to think of them as enemy.


Me too.  And it was always about stupid stuff.  I never did get it.  I think I was a bit of a loner sometimes.  If  I spotted the nasty beginnings, I tended to duck behind a book.  Never could stand all that conflict over nothing, really.  The worst......were those high school brawls!!

"So and so's school is coming over next Wednesday to brawl, are you gonna come watch???"  some kid would ask me.

"Nope", I'd answer, "I'm going to be busy sticking pins underneath my toenails next Wednesday, maybe another time!" :D

I wasn't the most popular kid in school. :oops:

 
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Understanding why people do these things might be a step nearer to stopping it
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I agree with you P.   Good idea! 8)

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I suppose the supreme example would be Christ, who loved everyone, and yet he had sufficient enemies to nail Him to a cross.


Ya Muddy.  Great example there with that one!!  And getting angry wouldn't have stopped it either, would it?

Have a great eve all!!

GFN