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« Reply #450 on: July 15, 2005, 06:42:22 PM »
(((((((((Sela))))))))) every day, with more understanding and more feeling, especially more feeling, and a little gazing at the stars, it becomes worthwhile (before we go). It's all here and it's what it is, I think.

Loved the Jesus Saves item! :D

Hello, btw, I'm still in Viva Espana mode. !Si! Hand over the tapas and some vino tinto por favor.

Tsk, and there I was, taking myself seriously at the start of this reply. So what happened here this last week? i think I've fallen way behind. Do i need introductions to anyone new, or anyone else.....? Can I be of help (hmmmmm...) anywhere? PMs welcome as always.

Hope you're okay Sela. (I think you're okay.) best, portia

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« Reply #451 on: July 15, 2005, 07:25:29 PM »
((((Sela))))  Just want to send you a cyber hug.  :)

I just want to share a quote that has helped me put things in perspective.  I usually get tripped up mentally over my weaknesses and mistakes.  Anyway, here it is:

"Our strength, as human beings, lies not so much in our stupendous achievements, but in the acknowledgement and understanding of our weaknesses and mistakes, and our refusal to be reconciled with them.  For this is where our strength comes from."

By Abhinyana

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« Reply #452 on: July 15, 2005, 08:34:53 PM »
Does it really work?

CO Q10
OMEGA 3
OMEGA 6
EXERCISE
DIETING
FLAX
GREENHOUSE GASES
SUNBURN
OXYGEN
RECYCLING
GREEN UP :lol:
STRETCHING
WEIGHT LIFTING
PUSHUPS
PULLUPS
BREATHING
and of course ...
GRAVITY :lol:

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« Reply #453 on: July 15, 2005, 08:42:37 PM »
The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain ... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #454 on: July 16, 2005, 09:43:03 AM »
Hiya P!

Thanks for the hug and the more feeling.  Yes....gazing at the stars is good.  Thinking is good.

The "Jesus Saves" item gave me a little giggle. :D  Glad you loved it!

Still in Spain mode?  Sounds marvelous!!  What does real spanish rice taste like?  Does it really rain in Spain mainly in the plain or is that just something Lucy recited, carrying a book on her head, to make us laugh?

There are some new members...I'm sure you'll see the new names on the board.  You're a help P.  You really are!  I'm ok....thanks for hoping and thanks for saying so.

Hope you are too (I think you are ok+and then some)! :D


Thankyou too Butterfly for the cyber hug.   I liked the quote you posted.  Never thought of strength coming from understanding weaknesses and about refusing
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to be reconciled with them.

What a great way to look at weaknesses!  I believe we do get stronger by working to improve ourselves in this way.

Hope you are doing well too.

Hey!  That's a good question anythinggoes (I'm too lazy to play with all those caps right now.....heehee :D).

Interesting list.

Well....I'm off to water one of my very thirsty looking lilac trees (it's just a baby and not looking happy at all :().  Then I'm going for coffee with a friend who has just sustained some severely traumatic experiences.  I want to comfort her and I know nothing really helps.  Life just sucks sometimes.  But....it does go on and I really do believe there is hope for better days ahead.

Sela

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« Reply #455 on: July 16, 2005, 07:20:12 PM »
Sela, re your friend -- sometimes the most helpful thing anyone can do is simply to sit next to someone who is suffering, and be with them, and not to leave them merely because there are no words to say.

So few people know how to do that. It's worth so much, not to be treated like a leper merely because one is unlucky, or in pain.

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« Reply #456 on: July 18, 2005, 10:41:10 AM »
Thanks Stormy:

Yes, I've felt like a leper too before and could have had great benefit by a friend who was just there, listening and being present, maybe encouraging me some.

My friend was feeling much better, she said, after we met.  She was panicking over some choices she made, which were actually quite sound decisions, considering her emotional state, at the time she made them.  I told her I was proud of her for thinking on her feet and some other stuff I noticed.

Then, I just listened and listened (she had a lot to get out) and I encouraged her to keep speaking.  By the end of our meeting she was laughing and saying how much better she felt and thanking me profusely for being there for her.

I was glad to do so not only because I want to support her but also because she has helped me out, in the past, in some serious ways and I want to give back.

My friend is going to be ok and I'm so glad!  She's had a rough go of it.

Hope you are all enjoying today.

 :D Sela

 

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« Reply #457 on: July 21, 2005, 09:48:36 AM »
Thought this was funny. :D


ACTUAL SENTENCES FOUND IN PATIENTS' HOSPITAL CHARTS

She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.

Patient has chest pain if she lies on her left side for over a year.

On the second day the knee was better, and on the third day it disappeared.

The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.

The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.

Discharge status: Alive but without my permission.

Healthy appearing decrepit 69-year-old male, mentally alert but forgetful.

The patient refused autopsy.

The patient has no previous history of suicides.

Patient has left white blood cells at another hospital.

Patient's medical history has been remarkably with only a 40-pound weight gain in the past three days.

Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.

Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.

Since she can't get pregnant with her husband, I thought you might like to work her up.

She is numb from her toes down.

While in ER, she was examined, X-rated, and sent home.

The skin was moist and dry.

Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.

Patient was alert and unresponsive.

Rectal examination revealed a normal size thyroid.

She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life, until she got a divorce.

I saw your patient today, who is still under our car for physical therapy.

Both breasts are equal and reactive to light and accommodation.

Examination of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.

The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.

The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job as a stockbroker instead.

Skin: somewhat pale but present.

The pelvic exam will be done later on the floor.

Patient was seen in consultation by Dr. Blank, who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.

Large brown stool ambulating in the hall.

Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities.


 :D Sela :D

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« Reply #458 on: July 21, 2005, 10:32:49 AM »
Sela :D you have me smiling which right now is no mean feat!

More NONSENSE NO-SENSE in London, makes me angry, sickened, the enormity of problems we all face. But I found a smile here, thank you 8)

Terrorism/stupidity (perhaps stupidity is a less powerful word to attribute to such purposeless behaviour?) begins at home, so true.

In his first statement on tv 2 weeks ago, Tony Blair said something about "civilised countries everywhere" !!!!!!!!! :shock:!!!!!!!!! then he finds out our bombers came from England.

In his second statement, only a little later 2 weeks ago, he did amend his phrase to "civilised people everywhere" but I haven't forgiven his earlier complete lack of judgement. He's shown national racism in my book by talking about "civilised countries", as though whole countries contain people who are all the same, who think the same and behave the same etc etc. Such limited, narrow thinking. And he's in charge.

Ayyyyyyeeeey! I get so annoyed :x anyway Blair is about to talk now, so shall go and tune in and listen carefully to his words. This is his job, he's supposed to be good at it.

ick ack thanks for the space Sela :D

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« Reply #459 on: July 21, 2005, 12:40:25 PM »
Sela,

 :lol: :lol: :lol: Wow, those were funny. Thank you.

Portia,

Uh, countries are more or less governed by what are generally called civilizations. That doesn't mean every single person in that country thinks a certain way, but it certainly has a very large influence on most of the people there.
Polls in most Moslem countries show a majority of their inhabitants would be quite happy to see Israel and the Jews as a race wiped off the face of the earth, and that Bin Laden is a hero.
If you don't think civilations differ, or that none have more beneficient attributes than others, then you might try walking down the streets of Riyadh in your normal every day clothes sharing your opinion with the men passing by. You will most definitely be treated rather differently than a Moslem woman walking down the streets of New York City or London.
For a real treat you might try walking down the street telling people that Jesus Christ is the messiah, or Buddha shows us the path to enlightenment. Just don't forget your toothbrush, cause you're probably going to be a guest of the Saudi governement for an extended period of time.
Or perhaps you would like to try sex without benefit of marriage in Iran. They just stone you to death there.
Civilations are different. Some are awful. That's why their inhabitants try to leave them. That is not a judgement of the people and is therefore not racism. It is a judgement of the system of laws and beliefs they live under.
And it is precisely that civilisation that the terroists are trying to impose on us.
No thanks, I like ours better.

mud

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« Reply #460 on: July 21, 2005, 03:03:28 PM »
Hiya Mud. Mr Blair was very calm and rational today and said good, minimal things. No brickbats from me today.

I walked through the centre of Tel Aviv in March 1981 wearing inappropriate clothes. :? Haha cultural clashes, but I didn’t suffer violence (physical or verbal). I met a few people there over about 3 months, about 10, to talk to. Interesting times. I'm not Jewish btw.

Do you know how stonings are done in some countries? They tie the person to a stake or tree, back up a dumper truck full of big rocks and unload it onto the person. Modern technology, old ideas.

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Polls in most Moslem countries show a majority of their inhabitants would be quite happy to see Israel and the Jews as a race wiped off the face of the earth, and that Bin Laden is a hero.
I wouldn’t trust those polls, I don’t trust 100% what is reported and produced as ‘news’ anywhere. Presumably people who can think for themselves in those Moslem countries - and just might disagree with the idea - wouldn’t take part in such a poll…or maybe they would, and would agree with the ‘consensus’ because of fear of what might happen if they don’t. Is that a free vote? If people keep voting in a dictator, does that mean they want him? Or are they acting out of fear?

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guest of the Saudi governement for an extended period of time
hey….maybe we should stop trading with them? Maybe we should look at how many really vicious instruments of torture we (the USA and the UK) export to various countries.

Oral sex between married heterosexuals in Singapore gets you….er….can’t remember but it involves being in prison. :shock: Amazing.


The problem with what Blair said was that the gist was that the bombings would be deplored by “civilised countries everywhere”. It is individual people who commit acts of violence, not countries. It is individuals who can change things, by their acts, by their voices –  even in ‘uncivilised countries’ – South Africa for example?

By naming whole countries as uncivilised we name all the people in them as ‘bad’. We create ‘us’ and ‘them’ and end up warring some more, instead of dealing with each other as people. We need to change minds I think, and it will take forever I guess, but bombing people – whichever ‘side’ does it – doesn’t solve things.

I know I’m incredibly lucky to live where I live. I don’t take anything in my life for granted. I know how easily and quickly our very comfortable lives in the west could be reduced to anarchy, especially in the UK where we produce very little food these days. It’s a fine line between what we have and what could be. Just turn off the oil and electric supplies. We'd be killing our neighbours in no time.

Anyway we probably agree more than we disagree Mud? I hope so.

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« Reply #461 on: July 21, 2005, 06:13:59 PM »
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It is individual people who commit acts of violence, not countries.
Some countries by and large leave their citizens and their neighbors alone.
Some countries have a long uninterrupted history of persecuting their citizens and making war on their neighbors.
This isn't because the citizens of one country are individually meaner than the other.
Americans or Brits are no better than Rwandans or Russians.
Its in the society and social structure, the civilization, that governs those countries that the difference is found.
That is the purpose of a government of laws not men, so that individuals do not gain the power of the state for their own personal ends.
There are a lot of relatively 'civilized countries' that do a decent job of that.
There are many more 'uncivilized countries' where rule by terror both internal and external is the 'law' of the land.
The former countries pretty much unanimously condemn what has happened in London.
The latter either pay only lip service to condemning it or openly celebrate it.
Perhaps the perfect compromise would have been for Mr. Blair to say 'civilized governments', to the extent there are such things.
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but bombing people – whichever ‘side’ does it – doesn’t solve things.
Well it sure seemed to solve the problem we had with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
 
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Anyway we probably agree more than we disagree Mud? I hope so.
I'm sure we do.
 I think our only fundamental disagreement is you believe we can talk things through to some ultimate solution of these kind of problems.
Whereas I think no amount of World Bank loans or good will are sufficient to deter people who are bent on murdering us and destroying our way of life. They need to be killed before they kill us. That's immutable human nature. Its been so since time began and will be so until the end. The only result of pretending otherwise is a lot of dead innocent people.
Its a nasty world full of nasty people, and nasty countries.

mud

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« Reply #462 on: July 21, 2005, 06:59:13 PM »
Hi all!

P & Muddyboy.....glad ya'll got a laugh outta the list of stuff written in medical charts!  Gave me a good giggle too! :D :D (hadn't heard the news when I posted that.. :(:x).

So, so sorry, sad and angry to hear about more bombings over there P.  I was glad when I heard that only 1 person was injured (the ba$%#@$S missed, I bet!! Haaahhhhh!!! :twisted:).

I think war is stupid and evil but......as Mud points out....sometimes necessary.  I wish there were a better way to take control of psycho governments, like Hitler's.  Terrorists are the worst because, if you ask me, they're so cowardly.  They don't march, in the open, proclaiming whatever it is they believe, they hide and scheme, and send confusing warnings,...they brainwash and control their own kind and some not like them... and then they blow up targets where innocent people happen to be.  I'm glad they miss the occasional target.  The thing is.....there will always be more of them.  They're group- sick....multi-deranged......mega-nutso!!!  They will never win.....never control the world....never be happy....never get what they want....because....although there are always more of them....there are also...more and more and more who are against them....who will track them..and find them ...and stop some of them.  And more individuals who are just as determined to work against them!! :x

I do believe some individuals take huge risks and dooo make a great difference in such cases.  Those who shelter the innocent, those who collect info and pass it to "our side" (?), those who sacrifice their lives in the fight for freedom and basic human rights.  Those who resist.  All are very brave.

What a stupid waste of everyone's time and lives war is....unless it's your/our/my country being attacked or threatened.  Then suddenly, war against "them" sounds a whole lot better than bombs in your/our/my backyard, doesn't it? (not addressed to anyone in particular....just anyone).

Thankyou brave soldiers who have given your lives to keep you/us/me free.
Thankyou loved ones of those soldiers for your courage and sacrifice.
Lest we forget (and it ain't even Veteran's day).

Imagine if all that war energy were put into making the world a better place?

 Wouldn't that be 8)?

Nice fantasy. :D

Ain't gonna happen, I bet. :roll:

Sela

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« Reply #463 on: July 21, 2005, 10:23:14 PM »
Just want to wish everyone a happy day! :) 8) :D

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« Reply #464 on: July 22, 2005, 06:34:43 AM »
Thanks Mud and Sela for reading and talking. I was angry yesterday, I’m still angry, that was emotion from me in those posts. If I wasn’t angry, I’d give up. I know life is difficult, life is complex, but I refuse to stop thinking.

Rather than killing people who don’t appear to care what motivates them, perhaps ‘we’ could stop ‘them’ reproducing until they learn a little about themselves, so that they don’t teach their children to hate too. Controlled reproduction would be better than mass killing I feel. Why do we react badly to the idea i wonder (we seem to)? Yeah, I’m a closet dictator alright :? and if I can’t say things like that here, where can I say it? Not in the local bar, that’s for sure! At least here I don’t get physically slapped for talking. 8)

Butterfly, love the fish! Very cool. And cooling too. :D

...looking at the stuff in the message box...what's the 'insert a flash' above in the tools?? here goes...http://

haha! that worked well eh? so what is a flash??? no flasher jokes please... :roll:
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