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« Reply #240 on: June 03, 2005, 12:17:22 PM »
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I feel very sad and angry that you felt compelled to make a decision to overdose, intentionally, in order to get the services you need.  I don't like the decision.  I don't like any idea that says it's the only way.  I don't like the system.  I don't like a whole lot of stuff about it all!  But I still really like you, Denise.  I do.

GFN


This bit (and a lot of the rest) I agree with 100%.

The problem with the NHS is that it is second to none in terms of dealing with acute illness of one kind or another, but not so strong in dealing with chronic conditions.  Mental health is right at the bottom of the heap, with inadequate provision at every level.  

Sometimes all that is left is to tell people like myself and Denise that if we have a problem, to go to A&E and ask for the duty psychiatrist, and then I suppose, hope for the best.  As you know, I have been three weeks without my psychologist, with the advice to ring the Samaritans if I have problems in the meantime.  I have not done so.  It would take a great deal of courage - more than I have - to walk into A&E, and then wait four or five hours for someone to come and then explain the problem to them.  You would need a fair amount of emotional stability to achieve that.  Chances are, all you would get would be a letter to take to your GP. :?

I think I have said before that in my area there is no provision whatever for third level (long term) support for mental health conditions, other than eating disorders.  You have crisis care, for overdoses, and acute care for those who need admission.  You have short term counselling (maximum 12 weeks).  But there is nothing else, unless you pay and go privately.  But even then, you can waste your money, as I did, and end up with an incorrect diagnosis.  Other parts of the country differ, depending on how the health authorities spend their money.

As far as I know I am the only person in my county receiving long term therapy for ptsd, and that is from a psychologist specialising in eating disorders, because that is the only kind available. :? And it took me 6 or 7 years to find that, with a lot of internet searching and determination.  I just refused to give up, and kept trying one avenue after another after another.  Without my daughter, I am sure I would not have kept going so long.

I think there is, indeed, excuse for those in the UK who cannot find a way through to the help they need, and who do not make it through.  All the books I read, all the internet self assessments I have read, all say 'you need to seek immediate professional help'.  This is much easier said than done, in my experience.

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« Reply #241 on: June 03, 2005, 01:58:10 PM »
Hiya October:

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this kind of comment - the 'no excuse' comment - weighs on me like a great weight around my shoulders. It feels like a millstone. It feels as if I am struggling not to drown and you have put a millstone around my neck. I am sorry for the strong, even violent, imagery, but I am trying to express my feelings, and I don't want you to feel that in turn as a condemnation of you, because I appreciate how much you care.


Thankyou for acknowledging that I do care.  I appreciate that.  The "no excuse" stuff is meant to hold back not drag down.  But......with the picture/imagery you've now painted, the suggestion of that pic......it may/might now be the one gathered/accepted/inclined toward.  So....I know you mean well, and I believe you care very much but it feels frustrating to me to have my words interpreted for Denise by you.

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My own benchmark, as I have said before, is to use the same terminology for people who have suicidal ideation as for any other potentially terminal illness.


That seems very reasonable and it works for you.

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perhaps you can consider what might be helpful for Denise.


What?  October, do you really think you a) know what I consider and b) that I have not considered this?  Sorry October.  No offense but I don't accept assumptions well.

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where she asks you to refrain from such comments, perhaps you could do that,


But you're the one asking right?  You would like me to refrain from saying stuff that is different than what you think/feel/believe right?

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perhaps you could do that, and maybe start a general discussion somewhere else on the ethics of suicide?


Honestly, October, I think there is no discussion.  I'm sticking with my belief because it just seems wrong to discard it.  I voiced it and my feelings.  Denise hasn't responded yet but now.....gee......I wonder if the stone around the kneck idea/maybe I might consider!!!!!!Denise.....refrain from "such comment" stuff will have a positive impact????

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I think there is, indeed, excuse for those in the UK who cannot find a way through to the help they need, and who do not make it through.


 Sounds like you're encouraging Denise to go ahead and end it all?

Sorry October.  Maybe I'm reading this wrong.  Reacting badly???  There is an excuse for what?   What are you saying exactly?

Denise:  I mean to throw you a life line......not a mill stone.
             I consider encouraging you to live...not to find or look for excuses not to.....to be best for you/your children/your loved ones.
             I'm reminding you to remember them too and be kind to you...look for something, anything to help you focus on another idea besides killing yourself.
             I'm very sorry if I have come across otherwise.
             

GFN

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« Reply #242 on: June 03, 2005, 02:02:16 PM »
PS:

(((((((Denise))))))       (((((((October)))))

GFN

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« Reply #243 on: June 03, 2005, 03:03:19 PM »
I'm going to be a buddinsky, so my apologies in advance.

I think that suicide is a very interesting topic, and there are many books written on it. Too bad I haven't read them. However I think that when someone is kind of fragile, unstable, and this group is one of their hopes for staying grounded, maybe we can abstain from talking about suicide. I think when someone is talking about ending their own life, it's very stressful on everyone. Talking about suicide eases the stress but then it causes its own stress. Basically I think what helps is letting each other know we aren't alone and we're here for each other.

Stepping off the soapbox, carry on.

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« Reply #244 on: June 03, 2005, 03:06:20 PM »
P.S. I don't mean to censor anyone, I'm just thinking about a pragmatic situation here. I think suicide is legitimate issue but it's also emotionally volatile.

thanks
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« Reply #245 on: June 03, 2005, 04:36:29 PM »
GFN, i did not take an overdose to get attention, i took it to end my life, the pain the misery i just wanted it to stop, as i said when in a suicidal state others dont matter, in the past the guilts kicked in so its stopped me, so instead i selfharm, last week was different.
You think to end 1s life for whatever reasons is no excuse, sometimes are brains and thoughts go beyond being rational and reasonable, so that gives an excuse.
I know you probably mean well, i need to read a few times to take things in, and i probably dont and cant explain my thought properly anyway, so right now theres no point in trying, sorry and thanks at the same time
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« Reply #246 on: June 03, 2005, 04:38:16 PM »
Thanks d'smom, serena and portia, for your ideas, i need a brain to function 1st  :oops:
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« Reply #247 on: June 03, 2005, 04:47:01 PM »
Guest 2, David pretends to be a friend and suckers people in with his mr nice guy attitude, but i know the other side of him.
He wanted to know my life all the ins and outs good and bad, and then used this knowledge to abuse me mentally, hes stripped me of every bit of self confidence selfworth selfesteem, do not be fooled by what he has written, he is as much to blame, relationship ends, agree on frienship, friends dont treat each other the way he does, i am writing this cos you could be him that left the msge in the 1st place, i have nvery little trust or faith in people these days. sorry if am wrong
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« Reply #248 on: June 03, 2005, 04:49:29 PM »
Mati, i know exactly what you mean by a normal family, it brings tears to my eyes, thats all i ever wanted, maybe in my next life i will be blessed :cry:  :cry:
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« Reply #249 on: June 03, 2005, 04:51:40 PM »
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i probably dont and cant explain my thought properly anyway, so right now theres no point in trying, sorry and thanks at the same time


You know what Denise?  Don't worry about it.  I just want you to know that I'm glad you're still here and I'm hoping and praying that things will get better for you.   The main thing is trying to focus on something that helps you....feels good to you in a nice way.  That's what matters most.

For you to get through this coming weekend the best way possible.  

For you to feel even a little bit better....even for a few minutes at a time.

Think some good thoughts...just a few.
Look at something you like....pictures, nature, tv.
Do you have a teddy bear to cuddle?

I'm away now for the week end and will be thinking of you and sending you warm wishes!!

((((((Denise))))))

GFN

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« Reply #250 on: June 03, 2005, 04:51:41 PM »
Bunny, am sorry if u find this thread stressful, but my life is stressful, and to read and reply and hear others, helps a little, no1 has to read this thread its their choice :(
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« Reply #251 on: June 03, 2005, 04:56:50 PM »
One last msge for October, Mati and myself, lets help each other if we can get through these dreaded weekends, ive had plenty of tears today, and you 2 probably have to, tmoro might be better or maybe not, lets just look 4 a rainbow and know at the other end is 1 of us.

(((((((((safe hugs 2 both of you and every1 else 4 giving support))))))))
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« Reply #252 on: June 03, 2005, 04:58:45 PM »
Thanks GFN XX
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« Reply #253 on: June 03, 2005, 05:16:21 PM »
Denise,

I don't hold you responsible for any stress on others. I was talking about something else. We will take care of ourselves. Keep posting.

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« Reply #254 on: June 03, 2005, 07:07:48 PM »
David imo, you are  :twisted:  from what i have read :!: