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« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2005, 04:26:13 PM »
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Sometimes showing the parent some empathy for the difficult time they having is the way to go. (hard as that sounds!)


No, that doesn't sound hard to me.  Every time I see my brother lose it I am taken right back to when he was hit by my mum, from as far back as I remember - very young - and how she would hit him over and over while he tried not to cry, and she got more and more angry with him, until finally he had to cry out loud, and then she was happy with what she had done.  It was all about power and domination and breaking his spirit.  Bitch.

So now, when I see him lose his temper, I do not get angry with him.  I cry with him.  But I get very very angry with my mother.  She is the one doing the abusing really; even now.  I watch him afterwards, and usually he has tears in his eyes, because he doesn't know why he is doing it.

I know I should think only of the boys, and I do, because they are the most vulnerable.  But I also think of my brother, and how nobody ever was there to help, and how I told dad and he did nothing.

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-- When someone approaches a family member to confront them about the past, it is very likely that the confrontation will result in denial and more traumatization. This is really, really, really tragic. That is why I almost cry thinking about the NHS in England and how crappy it is, that people don't have access to decent mental health care and are forced to "Do it yourself" methods that retraumatize them. {{{ October }}}

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This is all true.  But there has to be a way to break the cycle.  

I tried talking to my brother about this some years ago.  He cannot remember being beaten by our mum.  I told him that it happened, and that I remember, and that dad remembers too.  I am not sure whether he has ever thought about it since then or not.  It is very hard to find a time to speak to him on his own; he fills his life up with being busy.  Possibly in order not to think.

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« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2005, 04:28:59 PM »
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Off with her head.

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Plucky


Hehehehe.  Yes, that is an appropriate punishment for any enablers out there.  Guillotine, sword or axe?  Axe, I think.  On Tower Hill.   :lol:

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« Reply #47 on: July 02, 2005, 02:29:50 PM »
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I know you’re angry and like to see you really angry here! There’s a lot of justified anger in you I guess. I had lots of anger too. It has to come out. Who are you talking about above? Mother, who else? Who was spineless and self-preserving and didn’t stand up for you? Family, teachers?

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I have no use for anyone who can't think for him/herself

You can think for yourself though Plucky can’t you? Was there a time when you couldn’t, or weren’t allowed to think for yourself, when others tried to get you to think what only they wanted you to think?

You’re okay plucky, all emotions are allowed, all feelings are valid.


A person can't get anything past you lot!  I think I was actually being a bit harsh up there, now that you explain why people stop thinking for themselves, if what they uncover is too painful to deal with.

When I was young I had no idea that my childhood was dysfunctional.  And I can't even think of anyone now that I could have expected to stand up for us - what went on in the privacy of our home, no one knew.  

But if there had been someone, I think I would feel betrayed by that person.  But getting down to the basis of my anger, maybe it is generated or fed by my husband.  I feel he does not take the energy to be the best parent he can and just does the minimum.  Most of our conflicts over the years have had to do with how he treats the children.  He is not overtly abusive to them, but he is not attentive and does not put their needs first.   Unless I fight for it.

I've always been able to think for myself.  Speak, no.  Stand up for me, no.  Protect myself, no.  Set boundaries, no.  But I've always had my secret thoughts.  And until now I did not realize that for some people, even their secret thoughts have been violated.

That is a horrible level of violation, and I pray that all who experience it can heal.  I'll have to be more tolerant and understanding.

A penitent and wiser
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« Reply #48 on: July 02, 2005, 02:40:01 PM »
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A penitent and wiser
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What a great place this board can be.

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« Reply #49 on: July 02, 2005, 03:45:50 PM »
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This is all true.  But there has to be a way to break the cycle.


Here is my idea on how that is done. Going to the perps or enablers for validation does not work. It's optimal to have a good therapist (unlikely in England  :cry: ) to validate and contain the feelings of helplessness, rage, shame, terror, etc. The perps/enablers can't contain any of this! If they could, the abuse wouldn't have happened in the first place. The other way to break the cycle is simply to parent your own children differently -- that you are doing already.

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