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A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« on: July 13, 2005, 11:20:25 PM »
I've started a list of genetic differences so that I can see the truth: my Nfather is NOT my biological father. It's one thing to know in your knower but the other part of that equation is fact.

What's been probably the most interesting part of all this discovery about what happened to me, is that I finally have physical proof. In my whole journey to remember what happened to me I never had physical, factual proof. There was never validation from my Nparents. Of course not. I finally understand why now since finding this forum and the voicelessness.com web site. They were never admit to the truth.

However now I have physical proof, within my own body physical makeup that verifies what I've always known. There is one very omnious reminder. Omnious to me that is. I don't eat my food like anyone in my family. I eat like I'm left handed but I right handed. This has always bothered me but I never really noticed it until I became an adult. That's when I watched how other people eat. I eat food from the top of my bowl or plate never from the bottom. My hand is literally bent backwards when I eat like someone would do if they were left handed only I'm right handed. :? My intuition says I used to be left handed and was forced, at some point, to switch. Although I don't have any memory of the actual events I know something traumatic happened. My gut feeling is that will be revealed the deeper I go into these memories of my original annihilation. :x
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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 02:43:57 PM »
Hey Confused ? Lefty! I too am left handed- the only one on both sides of family for at least the 6-7 generations we know about through family research. I was forced by the evil penguins- my term for nuns!( apologize to any practicing Catholics)- to attempt to be right handed. I was beaten, strapped and had my left hand tied. Guess what? It didn't work!All it accomplished was my never learning to write with either hand, but, boy, I can print up a storm with both! Anyway, result now is I'm left handed for most things but do many other things right handed. This is obviously not that unusual for lefties in a right handed world. but many righties also do things with their left hands as the preferred hand. For example, a right handed person may  catch a ball with their left hand or swing a golf club in leftie manner etc. also there is research that any number of pregnancy and birth complications- esp. those affecting the old O2 to the noggin- are suspected of causing left handedness. Curious- are you also dyslexic or have any learning disabilities? A large percent of us lefties also have learning disabilities. Did you know- likely you do!- that lefties have a shorter life span than righties- forget the exact number of years, but it's something like 6-7 years! I believe, as do others, it's because lefties are clumsier and have more accidents than righties- toll of living in rightie world!
I've just ended abusive relationship of 1 yr. with male narcissist. I cycle between stages of anger and grieving and have accepted it. Hope I've alienated him so he won't recontact me- is this possible?     Moira

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 03:26:05 PM »
I'm left handed and thankfully no one tried to "switch" me. I just got a lot of comments from my mom about how inconvenient and sad it was that I was left-handed. Even then, I thought she was an idiot for saying it.

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 03:39:14 PM »
Hi Bunny! Interesing how the Latin word for left is "sinister"!!! No wonder we're considered odd and maybe deviant by narrow minded righties! And what " inconvenient" things are " causes for concern" for a right handed mom??? I wouldn't choose to be right handed- we lefties are truly the only ones in our right minds- brainwise!! A dark comment- if you'd slapped her she wouldn't have seen it coming as that's one distinct advantage to being left handed!!!
I've just ended abusive relationship of 1 yr. with male narcissist. I cycle between stages of anger and grieving and have accepted it. Hope I've alienated him so he won't recontact me- is this possible?     Moira

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 09:25:03 PM »
Hello Moira,
The only trace of my left handedness is the manner in which I eat. As far as I know I've never broken my arm or hand on my right so that would not account for the strange manner in which I hold a fork or spoon.

I am ambidextrous when I draw. I can use both hands equally. It actually feels strange to NOT draw with both hands.

As far as I know I don't have any learning disabilities.

Did you know that lefties are NOT more clumsy as some studies have shown? Rather it is that the world in which they live is not supporitve of lefties. A lefty living in a righty world makes them more prone to accidents.

Besides this oddity, the manner in which I hold my fork/spoon I've found 10 actual genetic impossibilities. One significant one is my ear lobe is not attached to my face. Both of my parents earlobes are. According to the web site where I visited my results indicate I was adopted. Or the other possibility, my father is NOT my father. :shock:
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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 09:57:59 PM »
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One significant one is my ear lobe is not attached to my face. Both of my parents earlobes are. According to the web site where I visited my results indicate I was adopted. Or the other possibility, my father is NOT my father.
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You're absolutely right!  I can't remember where I learned this but if your earlobes are different from your parents, it may be a genetic marker that your father is not your biological father.  I believe attached earlobes are dominant and have to be from both parents????

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 11:13:50 PM »
I've heard that all lefties are geniuses.

Hahahahahaha!!!  :D :D

Maybe not.  I'm left handed but ....it's one of the nicer ideas about the trait.

I play piano which helped develop the use of both hands and often I have a hard time deciding which hand I want to use for what? :shock:

I must have felt some kind of social pressure because I tried to do most things the way right handed people do them (I don't recall negative comments but I may have repressed them?).

Too bad both my parents are gone.  I wouldn't have minded checking their earlobes. :shock:

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 11:14:45 PM »
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One significant one is my ear lobe is not attached to my face. Both of my parents earlobes are. According to the web site where I visited my results indicate I was adopted. Or the other possibility, my father is NOT my father.
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You're absolutely right!  I can't remember where I learned this but if your earlobes are different from your parents, it may be a genetic marker that your father is not your biological father.  I believe attached earlobes are dominant and have to be from both parents????

Unattached is the dominant. Here some more genetic markers.

Just a few of my genetic markers:
1. Low Resting Heart Rate which is likely passed on down by the father since they have lower HRs than females. This also goes with a Mesomorph build as these are found in natural born athletes. My Nfather doesn't have it.
2. Born with skin tag under tongue, called tongue-tie, which went to the tip of my tongue. It is actually a birth defect and the gene is linked to cleft lip. It's a gene passed by the father. My Nfather doesn't have it nor do people in his family.
3. My body build is unique. No one else in my family looks like me. I'm a combination of body build that no one else has, referred to as Ecto-Mesomorph. I easily build muscles. I noticed this as a young adult that I could build muscles by swimming. I've got an hour glass shape YET [here is the clincher] small boned. My Nmother and Nfather are large boned.
4. Another is attached ear lobe. My parents are both attached. My mother constantly made me hide my ears with my hair. Mine, unattached ear lobes, is the dominant, hers and my dad the recessive.
5. Eyes. My mother has blue eyes. My father has brown. I have hazel, an impossibility! Brown is dominant and therefore I should have brown eyes. All three of my brothers have brown eyes.
6. I look like my mother, face wise; lips, facial structure yes.  However not body, not build, not hair, not eyes and skin. I am more fair than her. My father tans easily. All three brothers tan easily. My hair is fine and straight. My mother has medium and with body. My father wavy/curly and coarse. All my brothers have medium to coarse wavy to curly hair.
7. My father and brothers all have a genetic disorder and I don't. My doctor said the likelihood that this would happen would be rare. I had a test done and the doctor had it repeated because he thought it was wrong.
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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 11:18:11 PM »
Too bad both my parents are gone.  I wouldn't have minded checking their earlobes. :shock:
Sela

Got any pictures? A magnifying glass?  :)


Left handed genuises? Never heard of that. :)
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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 11:44:22 PM »
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Got any pictures? A magnifying glass?

Hey!  That's a great idea!  I've got their wedding picture......somewhere.  I'll have to dig it up.  Those lobes should be fairly fresh in that shot.

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Left handed genuises? Never heard of that.


Oh.  It's absolutely true......in most cases. 8) (give or take a few).

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2005, 10:35:12 AM »
Hi everybody,

I didn't realize I've been eating weird all these years. :lol:
I know a lot of lefties really cock their hands strangely while writing (I don't) but I have never noticed any that do so while eating. I'll have to take a look next time I see one of my fellow weirdos chowing down.
I was never pressured to change, I've always felt kind of proud being a little different.
But I sure had a lot of blisters on the top of my thumb over the years from those right handed scissors and hand tools. :(
Don't even ask about chainsaws. :?

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2005, 01:10:40 PM »
Hey all! A coupla comments on the lefty thing. There is a correlation between genious and left handedness. Einstein and Leonardo Da Vinci were not only left handed but dyslexic as well. Many other examples as well.Correlations between left handedness and high creativity given the right brain thing. That's why I said we lefties are the only ones in our right mind! Regarding the ear lobe thing- everyone has their own unique ear lobes same as fingerprints and also feet No  one has the same ears or feet( in terms of weight bearing and the imprints left), as anyone else in the world- Same as fingerprints are completely unique to every individual.. Forensics have used earlobe prints as positive matches for criminals for a long time and the FBI also has discovered that everyone's footprints are also unique to every individual. They also have been used  as evidence to convict. I worked many years in forensics and also with a famous Vancouver police criminal profiler, Kim Rosmo who is now a profiler with the FBI in Quantico. Check out CSI sometime-  a wealth of accurate forensic info, amazingly enoughfor TV!!. I absolutely meant re: my comment on lefties having a shorter life span and more accidents because of clumsiness meaning exactly that we have to live in a rightie world! Low resting heart rate may have some genetic components but is typically related to other physiological conditions, lifestyle etc. My father had high blood pressure and cholesterol all his life despite being physically active, athletic and non smoker. I have had low blood pressure- in fact on the too low side causing fainting all my life. Body build- my father was a tall muscular build with big bones. My mother is short and small boned. Two of us kids have combos of those body types, one is similar to my father and I'm exactly like my mother. everyone in my family has thick curly hair and I have fine straight hair- like my maternal grandmother and most of my cousins.Everyone is fair with red or blonde hair- I tan and have black hair- like my father's Cree mother.Now the other genetic markers and conditions mentioned are puzzling however did the doctor repeat the test because results were consistent with both parents genetics? If the test results were consistent with both parents and you thought they were different, it's possible for rarity. Genetics are very complicated- have you done research- pardon me if you said you did, but for almost anything genetic you check out, you will find something that goes against popular research. Is the doctor who did your testing a specialist in genetics? If not, if peace of mind or discovery is important to you- sounds like it is- have you thought about seeing genetics specialist?  And a final thought- is your quest soley to find out if you are adopted, or one of your parents had an affair or a marriage that's been kept secret, or someone else in either family gave birth to you and your parents raised you? I get the fact that if you are indeed not your parent's child, it might be important to find out asbout your parents if for nothing else to find out medical history. Interesting topics!
I've just ended abusive relationship of 1 yr. with male narcissist. I cycle between stages of anger and grieving and have accepted it. Hope I've alienated him so he won't recontact me- is this possible?     Moira

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2005, 10:53:08 PM »
NOT SHOUTING, JUST EASIER. I HAVE TWO LEFT FEET! :lol:
Regarding the ear lobe thing- everyone has their own unique ear lobes same as fingerprints and also feet
SCIENTIFICALLY GENETICS BLOWS A HOLE IN THAT THEORY. THERE ARE TWO BASIC TYPES OF EAR LOBES - ATTACHED AND UNATTACHED. PERIOD.

SURE YOUR EAR LOBE CAN BE A UNIQUE SHAPE BUT THAT IS A HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOR.:lol:  CLEARLY THE PERSON IS NOT REFERRING TO THE UNIQUE SHAPE OF THEIR EAR LOBE AS YOU ARE. THEIR EXPLICIT DESCRIPTION OF THEIR GENETIC DIFFERENCE IS UNATTACHED EAR LOBES!

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Low resting heart rate may have some genetic components but is typically related to other physiological conditions, lifestyle etc.
YOU NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH! YOUR THEORY DOES NOT HAVE A CLEAR PHYSIOLOGICAL BASIS!

AND YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELF IN THE NEXT QUOTE.

YOU ASSUME LRHR IS DUE TO OTHER PHYSIOLOGICAL CONDITIONS OR LIFESTYLE OR ? AND ASSUME THE PERSON HAS NOT RESEARCHED THESE OTHER EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES BEFORE COMING TO THEIR CONCLUSION.

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My father had high blood pressure and cholesterol all his life despite being physically active, athletic and non smoker.
GENETICS BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT HE DID TO IMPROVE HIS HEALTH, IT DID NOT CORRECT HIS HBP AND HCHOL. THE REASON: GENETICALLY PREDISPOSED TO HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND HIGH CHOLESTEROL.

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I have had low blood pressure- in fact on the too low side causing fainting all my life.
GENETICS, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE DONE YOUR RESEARCH AND THERE ARE UNDERLYING PHYSICAL CAUSES TO YOUR CONDITION. LBP, LRHR, HBP, HRHR AND HCHOL ARE ALL GENETIC WHEN NO OTHER CAUSES CAN BE FOUND AND THE PERSON IN QUESTION HAS DONE ALL THEY CAN FOR THEIR CONDITION [WITHOUT TAKING PHARMACEUTICALS].

LIKE I SAID ABOVE YOU HAVE MADE MANY ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE PERSON WHO POSTED THESE GENETIC FINDINGS. THEY MIGHT HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH AND HAD THE PHYSICAL EXAMINATIONS WHICH PROVE THERE ARE NO UNDERLYING CONDITIONS TO CAUSE THEIR LRHR. THE PERSON SOUNDS FAIRLY INTELLIGENT AND LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE DONE THEIR RESEARCH.

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Body build- my father was a tall muscular build with big bones. My mother is short and small boned. Two of us kids have combos of those body types, one is similar to my father and I'm exactly like my mother.
AGAIN GENETICS AT PLAY OR PLAYING WITH YOU! :)

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everyone in my family has thick curly hair and I have fine straight hair- like my maternal grandmother and most of my cousins.Everyone is fair with red or blonde hair- I tan and have black hair- like my father's Cree mother.
AHHH! THERE IS THAT GENETICS AGAIN KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR! AND ONLY ONE PERSON ON YOUR FATHER'S SIDE OF THE FAMILY HAS IT. NOT BOTH PARENTS? OH NO!!! :)

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Now the other genetic markers and conditions mentioned are puzzling however did the doctor repeat the test because results were consistent with both parents genetics? If the test results were consistent with both parents and you thought they were different, it's possible for rarity.
SOUNDS LIKE THIS PERSON IS RIGHT ON TO ME. GENETIC CHARACTERISTICS OR TRAITS COME FROM EITHER BOTH PARENTS OR ONE PARENT. MANY TIMES ONLY ONE PARENT CARRIES THE GENE - LIKE YOUR BLACK HAIR! ARE YOU ASSUMING BOTH PARENTS HAVE TO CARRY WHATEVER GENE THE PERSON IS REFERRING TO? YOUR CONCLUSION IS TOO VAGUE.

GENES DETERMINE SIZE, COLOR, BLOOD TYPE, WEIGHT, BODY BUILD, COLOR OF EYES, COLOR BLINDNESS AND VARIOUS DISEASES AND DISORDERS -- LIKE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND HIGH CHOLESTEROL. :)


AND ONE MORE THING -- TELEVISIONS SHOWS DO NOT ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH. YOU CANNOT RELY ON THE PRODUCERS OF CSI TO GIVE 100% ACCURATE INFORMATION.  IT IS FICTION AFTER ALL, NOT REALITY.  THINK ABOUT THE POPULAR SHOW ER. HOW MANY EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT DOCTORS AND NURSES SPEAK TO EACH OTHER LIKE THEY DO ON THAT SHOW? ZERO.

RECENTLY I READ AN EDITOR'S INTERVIEW ABOUT A NEW WRITER WHO THOUGHT THE INFORMATION ON TELEVISION SHOWS WAS ACCURATE. APPARENTLY THE WRITER BASED THEIR ENTIRE BOOK ON A CERTAIN DETECTIVE SERIES. THE EDITOR HAD A GOOD LAUGH. :lol:

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2005, 11:24:58 PM »
Dear Any....I guess I am dumb but what is the point of your post?

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Re: A Lefty in a Right-Handed World
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2005, 12:18:55 AM »
THE FIRST POINT: MOIRA DID NOT READ WHAT ITEXPERIMENT WROTE. THE FIRST THING SAID WAS VERY PLAIN- ATTACHED AND UNATTACHED EAR LOBES ARE GENETIC.  ITEXPERIMENT'S EAR LOBES ARE UNATTACHED, DOMINANT AND THEIR PARENTS ARE ATTACHED, RECESSIVE. ITEXPERIMENT'S CONCLUSIONS ARE CORRECT - THE FATHER IS NOT THEIR FATHER.

THE SECOND POINT: MOIRA ASSUMED THAT ITEXPERIMENT DID NOT RESEARCH THEIR INFORMATION. NO ONE KNOWS THAT EXCEPT ITEXPERIMENT. WHEN YOU ASSUME ...

THE THIRD POINT: RELYING ON A FICTION TELEVISION SERIES FOR THE TRUTH IS LIKE BELIEVING A LIE.