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« on: September 07, 2005, 11:33:20 AM »
I just need to put this somewhere, because I am very hurt and boiling mad at the same time.

After years of neglecting my health, I finally got up the nerve to go to a doctor late last week.  I'm in a lot of pain--can hardly walk--and I have really bad varicose veins.  I know that varicose veins happen, and I know being overweight doesn't help, but I've begun to feel that something more might be wrong.  This degree of pain strikes me as unusual, and at any rate, almost unbearable.  Also, my father had serious circulatory problems, and he died of an aneurism.  He had a lupus-like syndrome that makes blood clots much more likely, and all of his children have the same factor in their blood.  My brother has developed the full-blown syndrome (he is very fit and thin, and in otherwise excellent health).

Anyway, it took a lot to overcome the sense of shame and lack of self-care (sounds weird, but don't know how else to put it) and present myself for doppler studies and then at the doctor's office.  The doctor actually said, "What do you expect me to do for you?  This is entirely your fault, and I doubt anything could be done that would help very much."  Then he showed me some horrible pictures of ulcerated legs, not as a warning, but as coming attractions.  Then I left.

I realize there are much, much bigger problems in the world right now.  But I'm really kind of unhinged by this.  It took me so long to care about myself enough to do this (sounds pathetic, I know, but it really is sort of true).  And now I feel a) that I was right in expecting to be humiliated, and b) that it's too late, really, and I can just look forward to a slow, painful deterioration of my mobility.  Eventually I'll be the old lady with elephant ankles, shuffling along with a walker.

I try not to believe that overweight people are the subject of prejudice.  After all, I don't really blame someone for not wanting to sit next to me in an airplane; I take more space than I've paid for.  But I hate to see it come from a doctor, especially when the first words out of my mouth were that I know I bear a lot of responsibility, that I think I'm ready to change, and that I don't expect him to wave a magic wand and make it all better.

Not that long ago, I fell getting off a commuter train.  The person behind me had a huge suitcase and sort of swung it into my legs, and I lost my balance on the steps.  So there I was on the platform, trying to pick myself up.  The middle-aged man behind me--the owner of the huge suitcase--actually stepped over me and said, "Ugh.  How disgusting."  Then he went on his way.

Sorry, folks.  Just feeling sorry for myself today.  But none of us likes to be told it's all their fault, particularly when "it" is constant pain and a leg that's turning darker every day.

best,
daylily

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2005, 11:54:28 AM »
Oh Dear Daylily:

I'm so sorry that you have been treated with such disrespect.

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"What do you expect me to do for you?

Venting for you:

"I expect you to act like a professional, first off, by offering me your empathy and understanding and secondly, your knowledge.

I expect you to recognize my taking responsibility for not caring for myself the best and to encourage my new found attitude to try to do better.

I expect you to offer me some helpful advice, rather than insult, belittle and degrade me.

I expect you to remember your oath, if you took one, or at the very least, the golden rule.

I expect you won't be seeing me again, my choice, and that you won't mind me repeating your words to your board of licensure."

Stupid, ignorant, rude, cruel, nasty, awful, horrible behaviour, a person with a license not deserved.

 :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

As to the dimwit on that train.......I hope he gets his.  Some really sick people in this world eh Daylily?

But there are also plenty of good people and good doctors who will try to encourage and help you.
Please look for them.  Please don't give up on you.

You are very brave to go there and admit stuff and try to do better.
You can and will do better......please keep trying.
Please don't let this louse louse up your new attitude.

You are not doomed.  Being overweight does not have to be permanent.  I'm sure there is stuff you can do to help improve your condition.

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Keep trying please.

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« Last Edit: September 07, 2005, 12:05:41 PM by Sela »

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2005, 12:57:45 PM »
Daylily!

How awful!  I hate that!  It's sort of like the minister or priest railing at people on Christmas or Easter, saying where have you been?  You sinners!  You haven't been coming and I'm mad at you.    Boy that's the way to gather them in, isn't it?  Well, thanks for the warm welcome, NOT!

This is why I don't go to gyms.  First, I can't stand the singles bar atmosphere and second, it's too embarrassing.  I mean you really have to be in shape already to go and hold your head up.  I think there's a new gym franchise that recognizes this factor and calls it out in their advertising.  (Curves.)  I have been thin most of my life, but now things are catching up with me and I cannot believe the comments coming my way all of a sudden.  I know it pales in comparison to your experience.  People are just cruel sometimes.   :x

Is there a doctor around who might be more in tune to your special circumstances?  What a jackass the other one was!  Call Dr. Phil and sikkem!  Could you perhaps call another doctor's office ahead and state what you are looking for and say you already have tests and you need someone who can hang in there with you.  or ask another doctor (if there is one) that you trust who might have someone to refer you to (gawd, please don't tell me you already did this and this is what happened!) 

When I first realized that I needed therapy (I think I was having a nervous breakdown), my OB-GYN just told me flat out, you need therapy in a very dismissive, omigod I can't believe I'm talking to you, tone of voice.  When I called his nursing staff for a referral per his instructions, the nursing staff proceeded to humiliate me by asking me to repeat everything I said, saying "what?  what?"  and then laughing.  I. could. not. believe. it.  Needless to say, they are all off the team!  And this guy has a "great reputation".  for what I don't know. 

This is event that led me to stop thinking that doctors know everything.  That, and sitting next to an unmarried, childless female pediatrician who kept acting like a pouting little girl during a dinner theatre performance.  She kept scootching her chair next to mine to get a better view of the performers.  I would scootch to get a little elbow room.  Another scootch.  Scootch.  Scootch.  Scootch.  I finally said, do you mind if I have just a little breathing room.  Then I got the hurt look and she retreated into her date's arms.  A doctor, I tell you!  So immature.

Now, having said all that, I have to say I had the greatest OB-GYN who delivered my babies.  He is my hero.  But he had to retire.  I'm adrift.  I also have a terrific internist.  All in all, it pays to shop. 

Daylily, you have courage.  Don't let yourself be defeated by this jerk.  Good thing you know now.  You're the one who does the recruiting for Team Daylily.  Fire his ass and get someone worthy of you.  Good luck!!!  MP

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2005, 01:16:04 PM »
(((((((((((((((Daylily))))))))))))))))))

Sorry you have been mistreated, don't know why but sometimes the world sh*ts on us from time to time for no reason...  (pardon my french) you have my sympathy...  Take no notice, it's their issues not yours


Go and give yourself a good pampering!  You deserve it..

x Selkie x



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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2005, 01:36:00 PM »
((((Daylily))))  Please do not ignore your pain. It means something is very wrong.

That doctor should lose his license. He was cruel and sadistic. He should also be reported to the state medical board.
Please ask everyone you know if they can recommend a kind and caring professional, maybe a family practicioner, not a specialist.

First of all, if the doc felt your weight was a problem, he should have ascertained if you have ever been able to take the weight off yourself. Instead of blaming you, he should have done a complete work up. He should have gotten a diet history....and I will bet that he would have found out that you have tried a million diets and have failed. There are many reasons for that, including hyperinsulinemia, which is very common. I know other people who have had thyroid problems and they could not eat normally until they got medication. I've also known some folks with adrenal problems and they had terrible problems with weight. There are lots of reasons people are overweight and many of them are medical.

Some people just flat out cannot lose weight without surgical intervention. I have a pal who just had hyperbaric surgery 9 months ago. She weighed 450 pounds, had tried every freakin' diet in the world, was diabetic and hypertensive, and had developed a MRSA ulcer on her leg due to poor circulation. She has lost almost 200 pounds and is no longer sick in any way. She is looking forward to a normal life expectancy and good quality of life. My pal was like you in the sense that she put off medical care for years because she felt she wasn't worthy and was ashamed. Luckily, she was saved because she found a doctor who was caring.

Pain is an indicator that something is wrong. It doesn't matter what you weigh, Daylily. No doubt the weight isn't helping things, but that doctor should have looked for causes and solutions for you instead of condemning you. I am so sorry that happened to you, but please don't let one cruel schmuck (pardon my French) stop you from getting help.

I can share my personal story about pain. After what happened to me, I will tell anyone who has pain to insist on getting the best help they can.  

I have a recessive genetic disorder that caused pain and almost weekly fevers from the time I was a small child, but I did not know that I had this disorder until two years ago. I was treated for acute episodes, usually in the ER, which usually was excruciating abdominal, back and thoracic pain. I almost had my spleen removed. I was diagnosed and then undiagnosed with lupus and again leukemia. I have a very strange medical history. My sed rates (an indicator of inflammation) and WBCs were off the charts. I was finally told that I had a non-specific inflammatory condition, nothing to worry about. Famous last words. Another strange thing was that I always had protein in my urine, but all tests were usually fine.  

I became convinced that I had the lousiest immune system in the world because I felt as if I had food poisoning or the flu at least once a week, complete with high fevers and severe abdominal pain. I could never understand why nobody else got sick and why I would come down with the symptoms almost instantly and get well just as rapidly. I began to feel as if I were a total neurotic.

As the years went by, because of the constant inflammation, I started to develop body pain. I was misdiagnosed with fibromyalgia and depression...and basically told to deal with it. I got all kinds of self help books on fibromyalgia and tried everything, but I just got worse. I developed hypertension and borderline diabetes. My thyroid enlarged and then went back down. I could go on and on about strange symptoms, but anyway, I felt as if my body was in the twilight zone.

Finally it occurred to me that my father, my mother, and three of my grandparents had very similar symptoms, so I started doing lots of research. I had gotten to the place that I could barely move and the pain was excruciating. I was also having some memory loss, which scared the living daylights out of me. My doc put me on short term disability. I had seen my dad die a long, slow and painful death from these symptoms and I felt doomed. The other family members had milder symptoms, but I was going the same way my dad had been...I am a chip off the old block in many ways and this was just one more example. I was really upset about not being able to work.

I discovered Familial Mediterranen Fever, a disease I had never heard of, on the internet. The disease is known as "the great mimic." I nearly fainted because, when I read the symptoms, my dad and I could have been poster children. One of the symptoms is a rash on the ankles....and sometimes the wrists. I'd had the rashes for years. They were so obvious that many people had asked me about them. The wierd lab results were because of the disease. The protein in my urine was an early symptom of amyloidosis, which is caused by the chronic inflammation. So was the memory loss. So was the changing thyroid. I had organ damage and was slowly dying.

I went to my family doctor and told him what I had discovered. His jaw dropped, he examined me and then excused himself "to do some reading." (Gotta love a doctor that admits he doesn't know everything.)  He came back, asked me few more questions, and said,"Amethyst, I am so sorry we missed this. I am positive you are right." Fortunately there is a simple treatment for Familial Mediterranean Fever, if it is caught in time. I take Colchicine, the same medication that is used for gout, four times a day. I no longer feel doomed. Everything that was going wrong has turned around. I still have some chronic pain, but it is nothing compared to what I went through. Once in awhile, I will have a flare of acute pain and fever, which is usually caused by overdoing it.

Had I ignored the pain, and believed some of the critical messages I had been given (lazy, hypochondriac, depressed), I might be dead today. 

((((Daylily)))), Please don't give up on yourself. Please look for a caring doctor that will listen to you and be a colleague. They are out there. Please never ignore pain and symptoms....never. Don't let the way that some ignorant and shallow people just look at the outside and don't see the beautiful person on the inside define you.

You are in my thoughts and prayers. Amethyst
« Last Edit: September 07, 2005, 04:39:06 PM by amethyst »

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2005, 02:08:19 PM »
(((((((((((((((((Daylily)))))))))))))))))))))))

Working as a nurse I have come across many of these doctors in my time and nearly come to blows with some of them.  It makes me boil with anger when people go into the profession disguised as caregivers, when really they are in it for the power and the glory.  Sadistic b**tard...  Sorry but it makes me incriedibly mad.  It's like the doctors that never look up from the moment you walk in to the time you leave.  Once I went to the doctors for a smear test.  He put me on the couch in 'the' posiion and did the deed, but half way through forgot something so he went of out of his office to find it and left the door ajar.  i was just stuck there burning with humiliation.

Can you change your doctor Daylily.  there are some good ones out there who will give you the time and care that you are worthy of and will really listen to you.

And as for that man on the train.  I used to commute through London everyday and found it shocking the way that people treat each other.  This is their stuff.  Don't let them project all their horrible s**t onto you.  They are ignorant people and I have to say I am a great believer in Karma.........x

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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2005, 05:14:39 PM »
Oh daylilly...I am so angry for you right now that I don't trust myself to put anything into writing.  Will wait until I cool off.  Nevertheless, here I go.  Your doctor is not a doctor...he he merely a technician.  I'm so proud of you for taking the first step and so sorry the second step will be to find someone who is a real doctor.  My current GP listens to me, sees me as a part of a family and a community and proceeds from there.  I still smoke cigarettes...something all the doctors in the vast, sophisticated urban environment I moved from felt compelled to give me the politically correct advice for (which only led to more guilt and shame and more cigarettes).  Well, jeepers creepers, I could have looked that up on the internet.  My current doctor has all the degrees one could want but has chosen to look at the whole person.  I don't know if I am going to stop smoking, but I don't dread going to see her because I feel we are partners.  I am praying you find someone like this...someone who can partner with you to get the life you want to live.  Bittles

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2005, 05:30:28 PM »
you should be mad, that was horrendous. i know exactly how it is about self care.  nobody should ever put that down. thats *horrible*. i hope you can find a doctor that will help you.

daylily you deserve to be taken care of. i really hope you keep at it.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2005, 11:03:59 PM »
Terrible!  I agree he should be reported to someone.  He is a terrible doctor.  Most of his behavior happens behind closed doors and no one will know how awful he is.  But the state medical review board could really do a number on him. You may have malpractice cause because he did not treat you.  It might be worth it to at least threaten that.  What a jerk.

Please find someone else-- please do not let him discourage you from the healthcare you need and deserve.

A couple of years ago I had a similar experience with a doctor who told me I was "histrionic" and there was nothing wrong with me besides "nerves."  She was awful, dismissive.  I walked out of there thinking maybe she was right, and feeling really ashamed of myself, guilty almost for my reaction to this pain I was feeling that must not, I figured, be real.

turns out i had a kidney stone.  If I had not found a good doctor soon I could have died.  And when I did find somebody, it wasn't that big a deal to get rid of it (a little painful, yes, but not like it could have been without him).  A kidney stone!  One of the most painful things ever, and she didn't even diagnose it or try to.

You may have something wrong with you that can be easily fixed.  Please do not let him lead you to give up on yourself.

In the meantime, this board has sent him so many negative thoughts that I bet he has nightmares this entire evening.  My wrath alone is bound to give him hives for a week, maybe longer.

These jerks who behave badly behind closed doors. Oh, grrrrrrrrrr......






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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2005, 01:24:13 AM »
Daylily,

That sounds AWFUL. Both the train incident, and the bout with your doctor. Both legal and medical professions, unfortunately, are full of personalities like this. May be because we are so exposed and naked in front of them, so they have power over services that are not just about our money or comforts (like tax accounting,) but about issues that affect us deeply at an emotional level, like justice and our well-being. Please don’t be put off by this experience, but find a doctor who will listen to you and work with you.

For some years, I had been having some health problems and the doctors, at one of the best research hospitals in the US, kept telling me that it was all psychological and stress driven. They even had the gall to refer me to a psychiatrist! Finally one day I read Our Bodies and Ourselves, diagnosed myself, and asked doctors to run diagnostic tests to check for those particular ailments. Luckily, she went along with that. Turned out that I had a tumor bigger than a tennis ball in my body!

I strongly recommend all women to own a copy of Our Bodies Ourselves. It contains numerous stories like Daylily’s for us to realize how universal these experiences are. Another thing I hate about the US medical system is that medical records are usually not released to the patient, but are held in custody of the doctor, and you have to literally beg and do a lot of paperwork to get access to them. This means that I don’t have access to all the details and diagnostic tests of my own medical history at this point. I really feel that a law ought to be passed to alter this practice.

Daylily, I strongly strongly strongly urge you not to give up, but take charge of your health. Please find a doctor who’ll take you seriously and work with you, not against you.
 
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2005, 02:06:41 AM »
Hugs Daylily.
I have to say I am outraged but not all that surprised.  Bad doctors do abound.  I would agree that he needs to be reported before he strikes again.

Let's just go over what a normal experience with the doctor ought to be like.  You finally make an appointment to go in, overcoming your various obstacles, which you may not know are not uncommon.  (So many people have an aversion to going to the doctor, for so many different reasons.  Some of those reasons apparently have basis in fact, as you saw.  The doctor visit is not always useful or successful.)  Then you go in, and the doctor gets your medical history, talks to you, tries to understand your framework and why you did not go in (that is part of your history too) and does a comprehensive set of tests to start diagnosis.

Why didn't it go that way?  Because anyone can go to med school.  They don't have to show any type of personal qualities, just be able to pass tests.   The intuitive, human, nonverbal, empathetic part of being a doctor is not screened for nor tested nor taught.  Your doctor is lacking certain human qualities. 

Your doctor did not really see you as a person, to whom he would adjust his practice.  He saw you as an object, which was not conforming to his assembly line medical practice.  Why didn't you, as inoming raw material, conform to his expectations?  How did oyu pass inspection?    How could he possibly be expected to adapt his approach to you as you actually are, instead of how he thinks you should be?

We don't really have to label him to know that he is not capable of giving you the care you need and deserve, and will find elsewhere.  Perhaps it was good that you knew that upfront.   You can go elsewhere.

I personally think that a person's weight is their own personal business.   There is a health issue but that is between that person and their doctor.  People have to make their own choices about how 'healthy' they live.  Some people seem to do all the wrong things and live forever...because they're happy.

Society looks down on heavy people and feels justified in being rude and intrusive to them.  But not all of us feel that way.  I think weight is just one form of diversity and tolerance is in order.

That guy on the train probably knocked you down on purpose. He targetted you.  Because of his sick thoughts.  If it wasn't you, it would be some other person he saw as vulnerable.  He is really sick, and I think you should forget him and not internalise any sick message he conveyed.

I want that doctor to be punished for what he did to you.   Is that not PC?    Ok, I want him to learn why that was wrong by being sanctioned or having to pay lots of money.

I want you to report this man and go to a different doctor until you find out what is wrong with you.  You can make a choice now to stand up and live or lay down and die.

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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2005, 03:09:04 AM »
Wow, Marta.  How awful.  And the galling thing about your situation, and mine, was that we had really easily-diagnosed problems that are pretty common.  I mean, a large tumor-- that is something any doctor should be able to check for and diagnose-- it's not some exotic thing no one ever has.  Same with a kidney stone-- the woman I went to was a urologist!  When I asked the "good" doctor who did diagnose me how she could have missed the diagnosis, he just shrugged and said he wasn't sure she was really looking.

I am not sure if this is true, but my experience is that women get this treatment more than men, by doctors of both genders.  I have women friends who have been told that their problems are "all in their head" who had gallstones, were pregnant (! what a rare exotic hard to diagnose thing), had large tumors as Marta did, were allergic to medicine the doctor had prescribed, etc


And I agree with dramatic Plucky-- please use this to motivate you, not to get you down, Daylily.  Even if you take no action against this guy, going to someone else is key.  They may be able to help you feel better! That's their job after all.

I have this demon/angel thing about doctors-- it seems they are great or terrible.  But that could be something in my own pathology....  But anyway maybe a friend could recommend someone good so you get an angel next time.



 

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2005, 05:41:04 PM »
Daylily,

That sounds AWFUL. Both the train incident, and the bout with your doctor. Both legal and medical professions, unfortunately, are full of personalities like this. May be because we are so exposed and naked in front of them, so they have power over services that are not just about our money or comforts (like tax accounting,) but about issues that affect us deeply at an emotional level, like justice and our well-being. Please don’t be put off by this experience, but find a doctor who will listen to you and work with you.

For some years, I had been having some health problems and the doctors, at one of the best research hospitals in the US, kept telling me that it was all psychological and stress driven. They even had the gall to refer me to a psychiatrist! Finally one day I read Our Bodies and Ourselves, diagnosed myself, and asked doctors to run diagnostic tests to check for those particular ailments. Luckily, she went along with that. Turned out that I had a tumor bigger than a tennis ball in my body!

I strongly recommend all women to own a copy of Our Bodies Ourselves. It contains numerous stories like Daylily’s for us to realize how universal these experiences are. Another thing I hate about the US medical system is that medical records are usually not released to the patient, but are held in custody of the doctor, and you have to literally beg and do a lot of paperwork to get access to them. This means that I don’t have access to all the details and diagnostic tests of my own medical history at this point. I really feel that a law ought to be passed to alter this practice.

Daylily, I strongly strongly strongly urge you not to give up, but take charge of your health. Please find a doctor who’ll take you seriously and work with you, not against you.
 
Marta


(((Marta))) (((Vunil))) (((Daylily))) (((Plucky)))

I am old enough (reaching oldfartdom very quickly) to remember when "Our Bodies, Ourselves" first came out and how empowering it was for me and so many of my friends. It was absolutely life-changing. I still have my old original copy here and a newer edition too.

My daughter has read it many times and that started in early childhood. My husband, one of the good guys of this world, saw her looking at when she was about seven and asked me if it was a good idea. Hubby and I had to go off to have a little talk about our cultural conditioning and being raised with shame. He believed that there was some magical age when kids would be old enough to know how their bodies, including the sex organs, work and how to take care of their bodies. He's a guy whose father told him that "sex is how you get venereal disease," and his dad was a doctor. I told hubby that despite my liberated facade, I was raised, like him, in a home where many things were not mentioned, and that as far as I was concerned, knowledge cannot begin soon enough. I also told him that I was grateful for books like that because it could do the talking for me, in a way. Not that I have ever been silent, but I still have some atavistic shame from how I was raised, and I was concerned that I might inadvertantly convery the shame instead of what I wanted my message to be. I told my husband that free access to books was important. My daughter has known "the facts" since ever. Having a bunch of prolific gerbils helped with that too.  :lol: :lol:

Sadly, having such a book and a mom and step-dad who were protective, pro-active and concerned did not prevent my daughter from suffering sexual abuse at the hands of my N ex. It did not prevent us from seeing many so-called helping professionals who were either in denial or uncomfortable with dealing with sexual abuse, who tried to sweep it under the carpet. Much easier to do a behaviour chart or some such bs. My daughter certainly picked up that incest was not ok to talk about from some of these less than helpful folks, so my daughter has not dealt very much with her sexual abuse issues. However, I have many books about incest around the house and I hope that she is reading some of them....and maybe slowly getting really pissed about what really happened to her. Since my kid is a rather omniverous reader, I can only hope. I can't make her read them, but knowing her, I'll bet she has at least peeked. 

It blows my mind that how many people are treated as if they are idiots, or less, in the presence of the "mdeities" of this world. How can somebody overlook a tumor or a kidney stone...or in Daylily's case...a leg that is turning darker? It's inexcusable. Alll of what you have said about doctors is completely on target. Fortunately, not all of them are like that.

I think prejudice against people that are overweight is rampant in our culture, along with racism, homophobia, stigmatism of the mentally ill, and the elderly. The cultural ideal still is Barbie, which is totally unrealistic. And there are sickos...people that act out their sickness by doing things like the man on the train. He probably then went on to abuse others that day...and when he got home, probably abused the wife and kiddos. That was a physical assault, not an accident. Had it been an accident, the man would have been profusely apologetic and helpful.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2005, 11:40:07 PM »
((((((((((((daylily))))))))))))

I've been through my own horror with doctors many times. It has taken me years to want to return to "normal healthcare," whatever that means. And I did finally find someone who is humane and caring. But still it takes everything I have to go to a doctor for any problem because I was abused by doctors as a child.

I can relate to the overweight issues and prejudices. I have met many doctors with an attitude about obesity. I am still obese though no longer extremely obese. I've been working on this since November 2004 and am having lasting success. But I found doctors, of all people, were more cruel about my weight than the average person.


Years ago I remember having heart palpitations and my doctor at the time sent me to a heart specialist. I was given all these tests including a treadmill test. I couldn't get up to the heart rate for age. I was actually quite fit at the time and not extremely obese. The cardiac specialists response was, "what do expect when you weigh so much. You are fat and out of shape!" He had scolded me in front of several nurses and another doctor. What the dipsh*t doctor didn't realize is my heart rate WAS at the correct rate for my age and EXTREMELY LOW resting heart rate (42 bpm). He didn't take my resting heart rate into account. I reported the incident to my personal doctor and she confronted the other doctor. She also told me that the doctor's behavior and attitude was completely unprofessional.


Is there someone you can report this doctor to? His behavior and attitude sucks and he is unprofessional! :x That is putting it mildly!

The incident with the commuter train is horrible!  That man is the one who is disgusting! :x
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Re: medical establishment and triggers
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2005, 09:18:19 AM »
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These are such awful experiences with those who are supposed to be medical professionals, in positions of power, who instead have used that power to harm!  Another huge abuse! :evil:

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I walked out of there thinking maybe she was right, and feeling really ashamed of myself, guilty almost for my reaction to this pain I was feeling that must not, I figured, be real.

It's amazing how a few demeaning words can knock us completely off our feet and cause us to second guess our own feelings and experiences, how it can make what we thought was real seem insane.

This is another symptom/response from the past, for me....authoritive misjudgements pitched like mud in my face seem to stick there and make me feel dirty...until I can get to the sink.

I'm so glad for pure, clean water to wash it off with.  Sending you all gallons of cool crisp clensing spring water, a face cloth and a soft, clean towel.

Sela