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mcginnis40

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« on: January 15, 2004, 02:21:22 PM »
Hello everybody,

I'm new here.  I was surprised and grateful to discover this board, and I look forward to contributing.  But what brought me here is that I am at wits' end with my mother, so I hope it's OK to vent a little...

I have been in therapy to try to make sense of this relationship.  It has helped; my therapist is a very patient and caring person.  But there are certain aspects of my story that I need to speak to an understanding and receptive audience.  I hope you don't mind.

My mother always taught me that I was ugly and unlovable, that no one would like or accept me, that my social and intellectual efforts were doomed to fail.  She used to cry in dressing rooms because she hated having to buy me clothes in the "girls plus" department.  When the other kids taunted me, she said, "What did you expect?  Of course they don't like you."

When I was 12, I was hospitalized with severe abdominal pain.  My parents told me it was appendicitis, and I had surgery.  Fourteen years later, when I was in the hospital for a severe ovarian cyst, my mother told me that it hadn't been appendicitis.  One of my ovaries had been removed.  She never told me because "she found it too difficult to talk about."  At any rate, I had to have surgery, and a section of my remaining ovary had to be removed.

I got married two years later.  Her response to my engagement was frigid disapproval.  My wedding was totally joyless.  From my honeymoon, I wrote her a letter about how she would always be part of my life, but she replied, "That's just words.  That doesn't mean anything."  I have been unable to conceive, and she has been completely unsympathetic, responding to my concerns with comments like, "Well, that's something I never had trouble with" or "You have to stop whining and accept God's will."  She thinks adoption is wrong.

I'm sorry to provide all this background, but I think it's important that you know where the problem comes from.  I feel tremendous anger, but I usually turn it inward on myself.  My self-loathing is a real issue in my life.  I never really pursued fertility treatment because, on one level, I absolutely believed I didn't deserve to have a baby.  I don't really believe I deserve to take up space.

I just want to know that other people have felt this way, and that it's possible to feel better.  My mother is old now, and my siblings can't or won't take care of her.  She lived with my husband and me during treatment for lung cancer, and she stays with us during follow-up scans.  But she can't keep up the family home much longer.  A permanent solution has to be found, and I know no one will help me do it (either financially or in terms of time/effort).  She believes she should live with my husband and me.  That thought makes me physically ill (really, I throw up).  But when I say maybe she could have an apartment near us and I could see her several times a week, she calls me "evil" and "selfish" and "uncaring."  Is it really so evil to want your mother to maintain independence while she can?  What are the limits of duty?

These questions are eating me up, and the self-loathing is a constant ache.  I want to feel better.  I want to live with peace and purpose.  I want to honor my mother and respect myself.  I want to take my eyes off the ground.

Can someone tell me how?

Thanks for listening,
Joyce

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2004, 03:43:39 PM »
hi, mcginnes....welcome to the board.  this is just a note to say we're listening.  i can't really offer much advice to you (i've just joined this board, as well), i feel your pain and can tell you that your mother is WRONG to treat you that way.  i'm sorry you're hurting.  (':cry:')  Just by writing to this board you have taken a courageous step.  You should be proud of yourself!

the good news is that there are LOTS of people on this board who are very knowledgeable about nutty mothers and you will get great advice and strong support from these kind people.

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(':arrow:')  "I feel tremendous anger, but I usually turn it inward on myself. My self-loathing is a real issue in my life. I never really pursued fertility treatment because, on one level, I absolutely believed I didn't deserve to have a baby. I don't really believe I deserve to take up space."



YOU are allowed to feel anything you want, they're YOUR feelings.  The important thing is to LET IT OUT.  Stuffing anger down will eventually lead to depression and misery.  Do you have a therapist?  It really helps...they'll teach you how to let go of anger and guilt in a healthy way.  (Ugh!  The guilt is the worst!!) (':(') He or she will also be able to help you decide how to deal with your mother that will be good for YOU.  You DESERVE TO BE HAPPY!!  (':D')  You are valuable and you do have a purpose in life...you just have to work on finding that peace!   Hang in there...we're here for you.  ((((Mcginnis))))

Avery

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2004, 06:02:21 PM »
Hi McGinnis,

I join Avery in welcoming you to the board.  Egads!  You have a very toxic mother there on your hands.  It sounds as though you have your hands full.  First, you're trying to come to terms with your own feelings and self-worth.  Second, you have an aging parent and third, she's emotionally abusing you.  

I'm here to tell you that first and foremost YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ON THIS PLANET!  You have the right to exist!! It makes me whacky myself when I hear the poison people pour on their very own children!   :x I'm very glad to read that you have a therapist.  That's a sign of strength in and of itself.

It's a very difficult task to "emotionally leave home" when you are confronted with the dragon every day.  But perhaps one could see it as a challenge or opportunity to "slay one's dragons" (speaking metaphorically, of course!  :) ).  You have opportunities to stand up for yourself.  She won't like it but do it anyway.  Really, what do you have to lose?  She is already raging...sorry, I am usually more even-keeled.  Standing up for yourself won't change her, but it will change you.

I'm am looking into eldercare issues myself.  Just know that you have the right to set boundaries.  Read the thread on eldercare advice and also lookup www.elderrage.com for another lead on a experience that sounds like it might be similar to yours.

Good luck and be good to yourself.  It's not selfish!   :) S.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2004, 06:50:46 PM »
Hi McGinnis -- we all read your post and you have a lot of concern and understanding here.  I think it says 25 readings just in the last few hours. You have already paid whatever dues were ever required of you - that's how I look at it. Being treated so unkindly by the woman who gave birth to you is the ultimate and you don't owe her a thing. Base whatever you do or don't do on your own moral callings, not on revenge or sympathy, etc. If you WANT to, figure out how she might be cared for in her remaining years without intruding on your own family. Do what you want to do but not out of any guilt. Make the plan, park her mean butt somewhere, arrange for her care and ask your siblings to kick in some money if that is required. If you can't handle it, then don't. I won't go out of my way to cause any harm for my mother and I hope that she can find happiness in her remaining years, but I have no intentions of seeing to her welfare either. She tormented and abused me emotionally (maybe physically) all my life, and I don't owe her a thing. I am not out for revenge, I just don't want any of her filth to soil me ever again. I do still feel huge amounts of need for validation and acknowledgement, but not from her. I know she is a lost cause and when the final axe fell, I knew it was over. These people treat their children badly because they want to. They are twisted, evil and should be avoided at all costs.

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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2004, 02:29:02 PM »
Hi McGinnis,

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I want to honor my mother and respect myself


When I first joined the board a few months ago, there were some threads about the "honor thy mother and father" stuff.  It's good reading, so you might want to sift through to find it.  Basically I would urge you here to consider honoring only what is honorable, protect yourself from what is not.  What that means in your situation, only you can decide.  At first blush, it might seem like the folks here are against parents.  We aren't, we're against abuse.  We want to stop the cycle.  Offer any amount help that would be appropriate (you may find that the amount to be zero) but don't sacrifice yourself. be firm.

Discounted Girl hit it on the mark:
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Base whatever you do or don't do on your own moral callings, not on revenge or sympathy, etc. If you WANT to, figure out how she might be cared for in her remaining years without intruding on your own family. Do what you want to do but not out of any guilt.


I would like to add that your own moral callings should not require you to absorb abuse.   I was fortunate to have a pastor tell me "turning the other cheek" is different.  That is, if someone's going to hit you, so be it, but don't go out of your way to offer it to them!!

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I want to live with peace and purpose.

This can take so many different forms and is such a rich vein for personal exploration.  You do have purpose and it isn't to remain someone's punching bag.  Take care, S.