Dr. Phil show on narcissism

[ANewSheriff]

Hello:

This Thursday Dr. Phil is devoting his show to narcissim.  I know I will be watching.  Wanted to send a heads-up. 

ANewSheriff

[write]

Thanks ANS! If I'm in the gym I'll watch.

I absolutely loathe 'the good doctor', his over-simplications and sound-byte diagnostics and cutie-pie family solutions make me want to puke.

( ~Am I allowed to say that here?!
I know it goes against the grain of most of America... )

But maybe he'll tackle Nism in one fell swoop by stating he is one, and he's off to therapy?

Just a thought....

[Moira]

Hi Sheriff and Write! Thanks for the heads up on the " good"!!! doc's upcoming show tomorrow. I'll definitely take a Gravol( I totally agree with you, Write, about Dr. P's amazing and consistent ability to make my gorge rise- love that expression! Hee hee!!!) and check it out!!!! I also concur wholeheartedly that  old Phil is a N  of the first degree!!! I must say, Sheriff, I'm enjoying your postings thoroughly- you are very insightful and an excellent communicator! And Write! How goes it with you? I've been off the forum for a month or two and am now back. Drop me a line and let me know how you're doing with your health etc. I'm plugging along- off work now with PTSD, am being stalked by my ex N and numerous other major stressors. But life keeps perking along and so far the universe- although "A" for effort!!!- hasn't thrown me any curve balls I haven't been able to grit my fangs and walk through albeit with great pain and fear!!! Hugs, Moira

[ANewSheriff]

Write:

I absolutely loathe 'the good doctor', his over-simplications and sound-byte diagnostics and cutie-pie family solutions make me want to puke.

(Chuckle)  You are funny!   I kind of like old Phil, myself.  Of course, I am from the old school of the "hot seat" so his no-nonsense direction makes sense to me.   

Moira:

I must say, Sheriff, I'm enjoying your postings thoroughly- you are very insightful and an excellent communicator!

Moira, thank you for the welcome.  This is still all new to me, but this is such a fun and insightful group.  I hope it is okay to take my shoes off and stay awhile.  I cannot believe how much more peace I have felt in my life since writing my first post here.  I am hopeful to learn more of your story as we go along.  It sounds like you have quite a story to share.

Write: 

I counsel people almost exactly like he does, and I have a temperament very much like his.

   
I generally agree with Dr. Phil.  He is pretty direct and to the point.  I think we can waste a lot of time and energy in therapy hanging around and waiting for epiphanies.  My own recovery really began when some brave individuals bravely got in my face and told me the truth as they saw it.  It brought me to my knees, but they were all there with outstretched hands when I owned my problem and was ready to get back up. 

ANewSheriff   

[write]

the 'telling it like it is' school...well I live in TX so I meet plenty of people who believe they know what is best for everyone. But often they're pretty small-minded in their outlook and insecure: they want regimentation and security and instant resolution.

Makes for a tight cohesive community- very fixed ideas about law and order for example. But often what something seems on the surface isn't what's underneath, for example 'hidden' crime like abuse or drunk driving or corruption.

For the individual? I believe people have to work out their own therapy using the T as a reflecting tool to strengthen communication skills and reframe past experiences and emotions.

If I want spiritual guidance I'll go to a priest; if I want a lecture I'll call my Dad!

[Marta]

Thanks ANS! If I'm in the gym I'll watch.

I absolutely loathe 'the good doctor', his over-simplications and sound-byte diagnostics and cutie-pie family solutions make me want to puke.

( ~Am I allowed to say that here?!
I know it goes against the grain of most of America... )

But maybe he'll tackle Nism in one fell swoop by stating he is one, and he's off to therapy?

Just a thought....

PUKE. GAG. Throwing up. Doing allllll the things I always ever wanted to do.

Do watcha ike. As you as you don't.........

Care for a dance?

I was so laden with all teh antibiotics, that I was in a tizzy all day esterday. I was SO fed up that I just came here to delete my account. Then I opened my eyes and what did I see....lo and behold.....the map of the United States of America!!!!!!!! The GREATEAST country the in wholllllle world! A gift from the Universe, really...

It's my party, I'll cry if I wanna..........

I think I may have some free frequent flyer miles to visit certain cancerous "relatives." Well, at least folks in UK wear the right color of shirt; not that anyone has seen me around here in a shirt for a long time.... .

SHIt. SHit. Shit. hsit. ssshit.

THat felt gooood.

God bless America. I am a New Yoooooorrrrrrker. Sometimes I reallllllly feel like, yes yes yes!, I am god's greatest gift to mankind too.  

I am PROUD to be an AMerican and love every single bloody American.

I solemnly promise I will never burn the flag and won't binge again for a hile...

I solemnly bow to Minerva aka det sup. Your wits are next only to Rudy Giuliani's.

"I discovered, though, that once having given a pig an enema there is no turning back, no chance of resuming one of life's more stereotyped roles."
-- EB White

[write]

are you ok Marta?

[Marta]

Write,

No, I'm not Ok.
I am going through some terribly hard times emotionally right now. I am really mourning the loss of my family. I mean the family I was born into 40+ years ago. I really miss my sisters (especially one I have not spoken to in years.) I thought I had left it all behind so long ago; but I guess now I have come a full circle where I have to deal with it from a new vantage point.

Thanks for asking and take care.

Marta

[MarisaML]

Thanks for the INFO.  I'll be sure to watch it.  And record it and show to all my family.  LoL.  I'm trying to educate people that my sister-in-law and mother-in-law are Narcs.

[moonlight52]

Marta  I hope you will be feeling better soon.After 14 years I  got a letter from my oldest sister .She just could not have anything to do with any of her"original family".I understood why.I wrote to her down thur the years any way.Had my letters come back I would have stopped writing to her out of respect.Having parents that are destructive are bound to cause problems for the siblings.I miss the way it could have been so different.

Moonlight




Marta Things will be looking better very soon I hope for you



LOVE and LIGHT

moon

[write]

sorry you're going through bad stuff Marta ((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Hope you feel better soon ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Hugs (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[Brigid]

Marta,
I'm sorry you're having a difficult time right now.  I hope things improve soon.

(((((((((Marta))))))))))

As far as the Dr. Phil show goes--what a waste of time.  I knew there was a reason I stopped watching that show.  The girl manipulated him the same way she has manipulated everyone else in her life.  I have to say that I felt sorry for the parents and sister who were trying to get help and ended up getting blamed for her bad behavior.  You could just see the smirk on her face that she was once again getting away with it. 

Brigid

[gratitude28]

Hi Marta,
Please don't delete your account here. We need you!!! We all need each other here and that is why this works so well in helping us all through our pain. Please let us know what you are feeling when you get a chance!
Love, Beth

[MarisaML]

Marta, I'm sorry you're having a hard time.  I just found this board, but it sounds like this board has some great people on it that can help you.  Since we're all dealing with N's and we all know what we're dealing with we have a lot of offer each other.  Because it seems like most people prefer to live in ignorance.  You sound highly stressed right now if you're religious maybe you could try praying and if you're not religious you could try meditating.  Try to give yourself time to collect your thoughts before making any big decisions.  You sound like a very kind person and I hope to see you more on the board.  Please take care of yourself.

And BTW.. I'm not sure what to make of the Dr.Phil show.  Did he/we really get enough information to tell if this girl was a skilled manipulater or just a hormonal emotional teen?  I really couldn't tell.. I was back and forth. 

[moonlight52]

 Bean ,I did not see Dr Phil my hubby has a business Trip and I was helping him pack.So I can not comment about the show.
  Family story I have 1 sister 10 years older 1 sister 8 years older 1 twin brother (he passed away)mom passed away 20 years ago.
1 really destructive mean n father 82 still living. my oldest sister that was close to me also close to our mom about 14 years ago big sis realized n dad was a n dad (I did not)big sis had to get out. So she left moved out with her husband and 1 daughter out of state and said goodbye to original family.
Now she was not mad at me she just could not have anything to do with anyone that even spoke with n-dad.Big sis leaving was her choice.
I have written her over the years never getting a letter in return but they were never sent back either.So I knew big sis was enjoying my letters,Then I REALIZED DAD IS A N-DAD I sent big sister whom I love dearly a letter a few weeks ago, I say I think dad is a n dad and I DO NOT WANT to have anything to do with him,
After 14 years I get a letter from big sis .I sat there with my letter and just held it for 15 minutes before I OPENED IT I cried for joy.Well she loves me I knew that all along ,she sez maybe it seemed unkind for her not to write but she had to do what she had to do etc.What am I THINKING
I bet she feels as good as me sending the love letter as me getting it.OH by the way my big sis would hold my hand when I was 8 and she was 18 at evening time by the beach as we would sing "blue moon"together I was always her little Moon.MY BIG SIS NICKNAMED ME MOON
WELL we are just too big for such nonsense .I JUST GOT MY LETTER A FEW weeks  ago. but I always knew she loved me she just did what she had to do I cant wait to see her. Now ya know where the moonlight came from love from  my big sis
others in my family did the scapegoat thing to my big Sis not me I knew she loved me even without the letter.
But I love that were talking now.
Moon