an appraisal of N sites to be avoided on the internet

[write]

http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/narcissism_caution_internet.html

[Portia Guest]

Thank you write for those notes of caution. Also a quotation from the above link which seems appropriate:

"Do not believe anything on the mere authority of teachers or priests. Accept as true and as the guide to your life only that which accords with your own reason and experience, after thorough investigation. Accept only that which contributes to the well-being of yourself and others." ~ The Buddha

[rosencrantz]

I've tried to read this site a couple of times over the past few months but I can't stand the music!  As the saying goes 'it does my head in' - and I wonder what the choice of music says about the writer.

Anyway, I got a bit further down today and gather that the writer believes what is described as narcissism is really a description of a psychopath and that we are confusing the two.

I don't think we are.  My mother is the full NPD but she's not a psychopath!!  

Interesting thought, tho!  Narcissists experience other narcissists as so hurtful that they think they are psychopaths!!!

Rhetorical question : NOW do you understand how we experience YOU???!

(Uproar neither desired nor intended!!)

R

[Anonymous]

I think the differences between a narcissist and antisocial pd are usually apparent. The psycopath is likely by adolescence to be displaying strong antisocial traits, and to have been in trouble a lot at school or in the community, and to display increasing criminal / violent behaviours culminating in a court appearance or incarceration; they have lack of shame or remorse and continue their victimisation of others in a prison or therapeutic setting. They are sadistic and believe to show pain is weakness which must be exploited.

the narcissist wears their pain and it is visible- in fact its where many of us get sucked in I guess, first thinking they are incredibly insightful and sensitive. But rather than a genuine connection we were being manipulated by someone who can turn this on and off at will. The narcissist has a n emotional range but it is shallow and inconsistent, sentimental.

The ns I have known have suffered deep shame or remorse- the pd aspect means they don't acknowledge or learn from it or reach out to others to put things right though.
That is what makes nvictims feel they have met a psycopath, it is hard to believe the interaction which seemed so meaningful to you means nothing to them.

[sleepyhead]

Apparently all psychopaths are narcissistic, but that doesn't mean that narcissists are psychopaths. I can see how someone might get confused.

[Stormchild]

I've tried to read this site a couple of times over the past few months but I can't stand the music!  As the saying goes 'it does my head in' - and I wonder what the choice of music says about the writer.

R... can you mute your computer's audio output, or turn it all the way down, on sites like that? I find most website music so annoying, myself, that I never have my speakers on unless I'm playing a CD. I bet there's a few of us silence junkies out there. [Besides, my life doesn't need another soundtrack - it already has a heartbeat, and breathing sounds!         ]

[the more select forum:)]

http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/narcissism/antisocial_sociopath_psychopath.html

upon first blush
it seemed like it might be useful