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Anansi

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Ceasefire Campaign
« on: August 07, 2006, 06:39:05 PM »
"Dear friends,

Right now a tragedy is unfolding in the Middle East. Thousands of innocent civilians have been killed or wounded in the bombings in Lebanon, Palestine and Israel and the death toll is rising every day. If the US, Syria or Iran get involved, there is a chance of a catastrophic larger war.   UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for an immediate ceasefire and the deployment of international troops to the Israel-Lebanon border, and been strongly supported by almost every world leader. This is the best proposal yet to stop the violence, but the US, the UK, and Israel have refused to accept it. I have just signed a petition calling on US President Bush, UK Prime Minister Blair, and Israeli Prime Minister Olmert to support Kofi Annan's proposal. If millions of people join this call, and we advertise our views in newspapers in the US, UK, and Israel, we can help pressure these leaders to stop the fighting. Go to the link below and sign up now! http://www.ceasefirecampaign.org With hope,"

- the above is offered as a copy and paste from their website - I believe if the world can get into the habit of doing shaddow work, wars will cease.  Why?  Because wars are an attempt to get people to see what's inside them.  "Healing occurs when unconscious contents are brought into consciousness"  And when this is blocked, it tries to find any way it can to make itself known.  In the meantime, I hope you may pass this on and pray for an adult response to this situation. 

[SW]  Profound deep sadness

Anansi


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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2006, 09:28:51 PM »
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Because wars are an attempt to get people to see what's inside them.

I'd say this war started as an attempt by Hizballah to see the insides of as many Israelis as they can.

mud

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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2006, 09:34:30 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2006, 10:31:40 PM »
Dear Anansi,

  Profound deep sadness here, too.

  I believe that it grieves the heart of God to see any of His children killed over a piece of land when what He offers them is eternity.

With much love,
Hope

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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 10:48:56 PM »
Anasi,
I have to add my two cents... did you know the children were in the building because the Hezbollah were using them as a shield? They launched a missile from that building and placed themselves in the middle of the children for "protection."
None of it is good. All of it is sad. Children should never be so expendable. I find it disgusting.
Beth
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 11:09:09 PM »
I too hate to see the war and destruction, but as the Bible says, there will never be true peace in that region---it's just a matter of time. 


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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2006, 07:31:55 PM »
In the heat of the moment I posted the above, I've felt badly since then because I was being preachy ("If the world can do this, then ..").  I didn't realize it at the time.   I value and need respectful (and honest) communication from myself and to others.  In the future, I'll pause first more before posting.

Anansi




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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2006, 07:36:20 PM »
Well, I just thought you were sharing an aspect of yourself and your beliefs.  I visited the website and added my name.  But I didn't send it on to others because I think many in my circle are kind of "for" the war.  I figure it wouldn't do me much good to try and "convert" anybody.  But other somebodies like me might participate on their own and that ought to add up to something.

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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 12:36:30 AM »
Thank You Pennyplant,

I felt good after reading your reply and I sensed a lesson in it for me in that you saw their beliefs and respected their intellectual/belief boundaries.  I felt good expressing my "voicemoreness" when I signed their petition. 

I want to pass on the following bits of info/opinion in my attempts toward achieving a manner of respectful communication: 

In the  book "Magical Child" author Joseph Chilton Pearce says that when a baby doesn't get safely held in mother's arms for the first two years, then that "matrix" (womb-like safe extension) is broken.  The child will then spend the rest of its life seeking power to re-create as similar as possible that matrix (a safe womb-like environment) to finish that stage of development.  The Latin origin word for matrix is womb.  After I read this, it validated for me my understanding of one aspect of the movie trilogy Matrix.  Competition after competition (wars after wars) until finally there's one man left.  He has complete control over everybody (ie:  mother) so he can feel safe.   I know there's so much more to it but I just want to focus on the idea of matrix as womb and how this is, imo, the underlying motive for trying to control others into submission.  I'm not implying here that mothers are to blame.  If anyone is to "blame," it's men for not letting women feel.  If women are protected and supported to feel more, then they'll offer more harmonious responses to their child and their own bodies since at this early stage they are merged together.  The example given in the book comes from Africa.  The researcher says she notices that babies have no diapers/pants and that there are no messes around.  She asks one woman, "Where do they go to the washroom?"  She answers "I take my baby to the bushes just before she needs to go." "How do you know when she needs to go?" "How do you know when you need to go?"

I'd like to know if when readers read this, if they felt respected?  Or do I still come across as preachy?  I often can't tell how I come across to others.  Did you like it?  Was it helpful?

Love,
Anansi




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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2006, 06:38:41 AM »
The only real "cease fire" would be between honorable people who respect human life.  In this particular case, I believe there is only ONE side that would comply.   While I firmly believe that there will never be peace in that region,  a nation cannot just roll over and accept "domination by death" of it's people.  I pray daily for Israel and our world as a whole.  God's Word will prevail.

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2006, 12:57:36 PM »
Anansi,

Your idea of the meaning of the film Matrix and comparing it to how babies should be held as described in the Magical Child is very interesting to me.  I feel that your idea is explained in a respectful way because you address issues of both men and women and it is a complex idea.  Not everyone will try to explain something complex to others.  Sometimes I won't bother to do so.  You took the chance of explaining it and seem to have covered all sides.  Also, your take on some subjects, in general, is one that I don't run into often myself and I enjoy learning about your perspective because it is challenging.

I think I now understand better your idea of what causes war.  To me your way of explaining things does not seem preachy.  It's just interesting.

Pennyplant
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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2006, 01:26:36 AM »
I feel uncomfortable not expressing my gratitude for the current ceasefire.

Regarding the current ceasefire:   Thank you!  Thank you!

Anansi

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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2006, 11:50:25 AM »
I hope Lebanon was not simply the overture.
Lets see what happens on Tuesday which the lunatics running Iran seem to attach a great deal of importance to. Among other things August 22nd commemorates Muhammad's night flight to Jerusalem and ascension to heaven, Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem from the crusaders and the Mahdi's miraculous reappearance. President Amadiwhatever has been promising an answer to the west regarding Iran's nuclear weapons program on August 22nd for several months now and on top of that North Korea shows possible signs of an imminent underground nuclear test and has been working with Iran on nukes and missiles.

Hopefully its all bluster, bluff and gamesmanship, but I have an uneasy feeling the rest of 2006 may be an overly stimulating set of events for the world.

mud
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2006, 12:15:55 PM »
Yikes, Mud.
You're scaring me.

I have had to stop watching the news most of the time.

It's horrible to stand here as one citizen and feel I can't do anything but write letters, and I don't do enough of that.

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Re: Ceasefire Campaign
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2006, 11:59:13 PM »
mud,
I worry the same... and worry that I might never have an intact family again. I have a feeling that after returning from Iraq, my husband will be back out the door to some other conflict. No stability lately...
Beth
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