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reallyME

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Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« on: September 18, 2006, 08:32:28 AM »
Hi all.

I'm guessing this might be old news for some of you, but if you have read "A Child Called It"  "A Boy Named Dave" etc, you will want to get the conclusion to David's story in "A Man Named Dave."  Sadly, the man's "mother" carried on her emotional and psychological torment of him, right up until....well, I don't want to give away the ending.

The book is great at describing what many adults go through in their lives, when they even think of the abuser or the abuse they endured.  David had flashbacks and automatic programmed responses when around his former abuser.  It just really clearly depicts the future of an abuse vicitm, like few things that I've ever read.

The way David overcame things in his life is so inspirational to so many.  There are a few surprising parts in the book, which keeps it interesting, yet very true to what David wants to portray.

I encourage you to get yourself the book and know that you are not alone.

~Laura

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2006, 10:13:20 AM »
HELLO Laura 

Today I have chosen to go to my dads law office .
The place of my fear and shame this office symbolizes
all the pain of my life I am going into the lion's den because of me .

I will not give these negative projections life.
And I will go because it is just a room.Your description of this book sounds like some thing I should read.
I will let you know how it goes to face all my shame and fears.......................................................................................

moon

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 10:19:29 AM »
I encourage you to get yourself the book and know that you are not alone.

did you identify strongly with him Laura?

I only read the first book, it was too difficult and seeing the indifference with which his father, teachers and neighbours received the obvious extreme abuse ( especially starvation- which must have been especially visible? ) was shocking.

There was a recent case in Fort Bend County here of an aunt and uncle who starved their nephews for years, they were home-schooled so it was easy to hide the abuse for a long time, the perpetrators just received 40 years imprisonment. Their lawyer's statement was at odds with their emaciated condition- "They've done the best they could for the two children," he said. "Nothing they've done could be considered excessive or abusive." I think that shocked me as much as the actual abuse.

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Hi Moon,

not sure why you feel you have to go but I am thinking of you and sending you strength and love.

What do you think about the claims he himself now exploits issues of child abuse for fame and money? Do you think it is healthy for his whole life to be based around his survival and recovery from his abuse?


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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 10:25:54 AM »
Write 

I want to go and face my fear and to see that my feelings are created by me .He has not asked me to come.
But I will not have his negative projections hang over my head.
I will not crumble.

thanks for sending the love
I send love back to you write

I will let you know how it goes

moon

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 10:30:15 AM »
I hope it helps. (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 10:56:34 AM »
WRITE,

No, personally I was not severely tortured in the way David was in his life and books.  I was not made to drink ammonia and chlorox or soak my hands in it.  I was just made to work excessively.  When I was older, I was physically beaten.  I would NEVER compare what I went through to even coming close to what David endured in his life for 12 years!  The book just really explains how to forgive and move past the hurt and face the abusers and what to do when facing them does not mean they will change.  Abusers usually dont' see what they do as being abusive.  In David's case, his "mother" placed the blame on him and everyone else in her life except herself.

~Laura

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006, 09:19:07 PM »
Hey Laura,
I also wonder how people can just ignore such an obvious situation. I read part of one of his books, and it was difficult to read. I felt so amazed that a person could do this to her own child.
Like you inferred, in a way, as well, sometimes it's hard to see our situation as "abusive" when compared to homes like his.
One thing I learned in AA, though is not to compare. My drunks were no less bad than anyone else's, even if I didn't "get into trouble." Likewise, parents who neglect or hate their children are no less bad in ways than those who physically abuse their children. As someone else here said, you don't have to put a name to what your parents' relationship to you was. I have a hard time, honestly, saying my parents were abusive. But I can say my childhood was far from happy (more like miserable) and I did not learn the proper skills to grow into adulthood.
Thanks for the topic, Laura!!!
Love, Beth
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reallyME

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 10:51:59 PM »
Yeah Beth, I hear ya...abuse is abuse for sure.

The incredible thing about David in his book I just finished reading, is his attitude through it all.  He didn't hold on to the anger and fear.  He eventually released everything and found healing.  If you haven't yet, please read "A Man Called Dave."

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2006, 10:56:11 PM »
A lot of the timelately, I feel like I have had the release... I just am puzzled by so much of it. And I want to be able to tell people like us that they are not crazy... that the type of behavior in our homes is not normal. I was just so amazed to find out my friends actually liked/loved their parents and enjoyed spending time with them. Part of my father's passive-aggresiveness is reminding us frequently that "kids always hate their parents." I don't believe it's true. I believe that was a cheap cop-out for them to explain my reaction to their meanness.
What in the world could Dave's mother have thought????? He went on to be in the Air Force I believe.
Love, Beth
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reallyME

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006, 11:29:24 PM »
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What in the world could Dave's mother have thought????? He went on to be in the Air Force I believe

Yes, Beth.  For a while he was in the Air Force, then he got married, divorce and is now remarried to a lovely lady.

What did his mother think?  She believed David was an "it" who was always causing trouble or in trouble for something and needed to be punished for it severely.

Between burnings, poisonings, a stabbing, choking, etc, she felt that David had provoked all of those things.  He was a mere child of 4 years old during this stuff, at first.

He later found out that his grandmother was the same as the mother.  It was a thing that was passed down generationally.
~Laura

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 07:39:09 AM »
Hi Laura

He later found out that his grandmother was the same as the mother.  It was a thing that was passed down generationally.

That’s interesting. Do you think most abuse is passed down from the parents - that each abused child has the potential within them to either (1) become an abuser (as Dave’s mother did) or (2) to break the cycle as Dave did?

Maybe with Dave, I’m guessing, something happened in him whereby he allowed himself to hate his mother, he wasn’t going to let her ‘win’, to destroy him. Maybe that helped – he didn’t confuse her abuse with ‘love’ as so many abused kids do.

I feel as sorry for his mother as I do for him; but of course, Dave survived and thrived, she didn’t.

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2006, 08:05:10 AM »
Honestly, Portia, your points are so good.  Even David learned to understand that the things his N-mother did, were because SHE too was abused, yet, unlike him, she had NOBODY to talk to about her problems and struggles, and so, she internalized them and later took things out on him.
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That’s interesting. Do you think most abuse is passed down from the parents - that each abused child has the potential within them to either (1) become an abuser (as Dave’s mother did) or (2) to break the cycle as Dave did?

Both actually.  I believe that children who are abused, very often grow up to imitate that abuse in some form.  I also believe that each person has a opportunity to break that cycle if they choose.

In my case, my mother was a "face-slapper" "wash mouth out with soap" type.

When I had my first daughter, I used soap with her as well as slapping...one day a slap on the leg turned to a punch.  Immediately, when that happened, I ran into the other room and called 911.  They hooked me up with a life-saving group called PARENTS ANONYMOUS, who came to my house and talked gently with and listened to me, and showed me non-invasive ways to handle my 2 year old's temper tantrums, without losing my patience.  They came every week for a long time and taught me about using a big box to make a stove for Carol to play with, using time outs, etc.  David's mother did not have access to such things, as the people back then, believed that any form of "discipline" that went on behind closed doors, was perfectly acceptable and the "Family's business"  Thank GOD times have been changing and children are being heard and SAVED!

~Laura

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006, 08:12:07 AM »
((((((((((((((((((Laura))))))))))))))))))))

I have always admired and enjoyed your total honesty. Thanks for sharing what happened to you and thanks for having the courage to make yourself vulnerable to those who could help you.

I think you're a survivor and thriver too :D

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006, 08:28:31 AM »
My N'like mother used to say and still does, "Laura has gone through things no child should have gone through...and she has always been an overcomer."  It is true.  No matter what I've been through, I tend to pick out any good I can find, forgive the abuser and move past it.  That is my nature and character.  I see no sense in letting anyone or anything keep me back or down.

~Laura

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Re: Must Read book...David Peltzer's life after abuse
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006, 09:41:04 AM »
Honest as the day is long, RM.

Moon, how did your visit to your father's office go? Been thinking of you, sending courage...

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