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Quick update
« on: September 24, 2006, 07:18:26 PM »
Took daughter out of school a year ago.  She is now embarked on distance learning exam course, and I am scared stiff of letting her down, but trying to keep going, and not panic.

Ancient history, b and SIL got reported to social services and exonerated, even though they are guilty as hell of beating their three boys.  Meanwhile, ss gave them information about the report, and it pointed to me.  It wasn't me, but that makes no difference to an N.  They just want someone to blame; anyone will do.

Anyway, family party and saw b and NSil today, and got treated like s***, so sent b following email tonight, which made me feel more as if I am taking the initiative, rather than acting like a doormat:

"Tonight I tried to mend fences with (SIL), and asked her whether we can all just forgive and forget, but she said no, and walked away.
 
You have no idea the pain you are both causing mum and dad.  We all know about your pain from last year, and none of us wanted that, but you sure as hell are making sure you spread as much pain to everyone else as you can, and you have repaid ten times over already, without regard for who you hurt in the process.  It is no longer about your pain, it is about the pain you are giving to others.  I have pain in my life.  So do mum and dad.  But we do not spread it around, like manure on a field, making sure everyone gets a share, as if we are the only people on earth who were ever hurt.
 
Mum was treated like shit by some of her family at Uncle G's funeral and she has waited to talk to you ever since, and you never even asked her about it.  She is really hurt that you don't give a damn, and dad is hurt that you never ask how he is, or care about how unwell he has been.  They both said to me not to write and tell you, because that makes it too easy for you.  They wanted to see how long it took before you showed that you cared, and you never did.  You never got round to it.
 
Dad says when his dad was very ill, towards the end of his life, he could not do enough for him.  And yet, with you, even though you know dad has been unwell, you have not called, you have not visited.  I have taken dad to have his teeth out, and sat with him through fittings for his dentures.  I have taken him to the GP.  I have taken him and mum out.  Where the hell are you?
 
You are going the right way to lose your whole family; if you think that is a fair exchange, for what you now have, then good luck to you.  You said to mum and dad that this will mend.  I am telling you now, it needs to end now, because if it goes on, then there will be nothing left for you to mend.  Either it stops now, or else I have only one brother, and his name is Ian.  I neither know you, nor want to know you ever again.
 
Mum and dad's 50th anniversary is next year, and I wanted to talk to you about it tonight, but I couldn't get past the permafrost that has set in around you.  How can they celebrate their anniversary with an atmosphere like this evening?
 
I suggest if you do not want another year like the last one, that we all move on.  (SIL) is not used to having family around, but maybe you can tell her, in no uncertain terms, that families fall out, but then they fall in again.  They do not kill one another by ignoring, snubbing and cutting.  That is childish, it is unChristian and it has got to stop.
 
Maybe you can send me a birthday card.  (No present, because I don't want one.)  Then we can start to rebuild, however long it takes.  No card, and from that day I have no older brother, and I will never speak your name again as long as I live.  It is up to you."
 
I will not hold my breath waiting for that card.  But neither will they control me any longer by their anger.

C.

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2006, 07:36:58 PM »
October,
So good to see your name.  Sounds like you did the best thing you could for C.  I'm sure you won't let her down.  I'm sorry about your b and sil, but under the circumstances, could you expect much better from them?

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2006, 07:42:15 PM »
Hugs, October.

Our brothers could be clones, it sounds like, only in his case he is the N, not his wife (as far as I can tell). I hope this will all resolve to leave you with great peace knowing that you've taken your stand in an honorable way and made every effort to initiate reconciliation. I cannot imagine what else you could possibly do.

Hope

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2006, 09:25:58 PM »
Hi October,
it's good you did something about the problem. Don't hold your breath waiting for that card.  But you never know.
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2006, 09:38:08 PM »
October, so glad you are back!

You sound solid and strong and brave. I'm sorry about the circumstances but it is so good to hear from you, and - you sound solid, you sound strong...

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2006, 04:29:09 AM »
Hi October. Expressing lots of pain and good strong boundaries, good for you. I guess he doesn't feel like you do about your parents; some people don't. I guess you get something from caring for your parents which maybe he doesn't/or can't at the moment?

They can't really control you with their anger can they? Sounds to me like you've reached a crunch time - and not before time, probably. Change is good in that respect eh? Maybe you won't have him as a brother, and maybe you will again, but not for some time. He might change too, when he's able to? (((((((((((((October))))))))))) good to hear from you, Take care. P

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 09:25:29 AM »
It is sooo good to come here and find support and love from my friends.  How did I ever cope without it?

Here is the email I have just sent my brother and sil today.  My birthday is Sunday, but I am pretty sure there will be no card. 

I am sooo happy that you all say I sound strong.  That is what I need to sound, even though I am far from it inside, and this whole thing is so difficult to cope with.  But they are trying to be the victims, and make me the evil one, whereas the truth is, they are evil through and through if they cannot see that hitting tiny children over and over, in real anger, is absolutely unacceptable.

October



As you know, I have a very good friend called Steve, who has been a great strength and comfort to d and me during recent years.  His advice to me is to make sure you know as much as I know about how last year happened.  (Actually he told me to do this some time ago, but when do I ever get the chance?)  Anyway, I value his opinion, so here goes.
 
I think the information came from d's former therapist, who is based at Trend House in L.  She talked to d mostly about her dad, but in the course of that, asked d about important male figures in her life.  I was not present during these discussions.  D stopped seeing this person some months ago, and has no plans to see her again.
 
I am sure there was nothing said that is untrue, because neither d nor I are in the business of telling lies.  If you ended up being investigated, then it is because what d described, and what she and I have both seen, (and what mum and dad have also seen, although this is nothing to do with them) was disturbing for the therapist to hear about.  Neither d or I were asked permission for this to happen, nor given the chance to prevent it.  But this is not about what we did or did not say.  It is about you, and your behaviour. 
 
Can you honestly respect anyone who finds acceptable what you have done in past years, even if it has now stopped?  These are the people you are now surrounded by.  And those who love your boys enough to cry when they cry, and to comfort them even while you are still shouting at them, you have cut out of your life and theirs. 
 
In case you are capable of appreciating the irony of the situation, you are now seethingly angry at accusations of child abuse, and to prove that these accusations are totally groundless, and false, you - or one of you at least - have spent the best part of a year nursing your anger, and taking it out on a 13 year old, her elderly grandparents and her mother.  If anything about this whole sorry situation can make me smile, that can.
 
But if anyone says, would you go back to the way it was, then the answer is no.  I would not.  I would go forward, and learn, but I would not go back.
 
None of us can undo what happened.  The best we can do is learn, and forgive, on both sides, and move on.  If you find anyone around you who is incapable of doing those things, then at least learn from it.  Me today; you tomorrow. 
 
Good luck with the rest of your lives.
 
C
« Last Edit: September 29, 2006, 09:28:55 AM by October »

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 12:08:11 PM »
Hi October,

There is someything cathartic about writing the truth out and sending it somewhere, anywhere, to be seen even if not a word of it is believed or worse yet it is twisted out of all recognition and used against us.
It is always worthwhile, I think, just to shout the truth from the rooftops so that the world can deny its veracity if it chooses but it can't deny it heard it.

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 06:34:25 PM »
(((((((((((((Occtober, D, and the nephews))))))))))))))))))

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2006, 10:47:06 AM »

It is always worthwhile, I think, just to shout the truth from the rooftops so that the world can deny its veracity if it chooses but it can't deny it heard it.

mud

Thanks Mud.  The boys can never look back as I can, to those years when nobody said anything, and nobody did anything.  The crying shame of it all is that social services have let us all down on this one, and the abuse continues.  However, that is another story, and no longer my concern.

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 10:07:35 AM »
The age of miracles is not past.  Received this email today, and wrote back to say he is welcome any time, but must let me know when he is coming, because I am not well enough to cope with surprise visits.  This is in response to my last email, pretty well drawing a line under this whole thing.


October,

Thank you for this. I did not see it until I got back on Sunday evening. I telephoned Dad to promise to sort this out.

I have discussed this with (sil) and we agree it is time to move on from this as there are no winners at the moment.

I will try to visit soon to talk this through.

See you

B


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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 03:18:18 PM »
October,

  I hope and pray that he really is seeing the light and that you'll have the strength and wisdom necessary to deal well with him when the time comes to talk it through.

Hope

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2006, 05:52:13 PM »
Well, it sounds like he at least heard you, October.  That's pretty cool in and of itself.  Hope he keeps going with the momentum.

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 06:40:49 AM »
Thanks Penny and Certain Hope.  Still no word about when he is coming.  Maybe it will not happen (I hope!!!)   :)

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Re: Quick update
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2006, 07:12:12 AM »
Dear October

Nice management-style email from your bro, he's in charge. I think he's responding to your words:

have spent the best part of a year nursing your anger, and taking it out on a 13 year old, her elderly grandparents and her mother. 

and he wants to telephone Dad to say - is this true? Do you feel like this Dad? and he tells you this (why?) to get some superior move on you ("Dad doesn't agree with you...you're wrong").

and he wants to 'sort it out' to tell you that it's not true.

and he can't say it in writing (why not?) because he wants to convince you, in person, that it isn't true.

on the other hand, maybe he wants your forgiveness and help? Does it sound as though he wants your help?

You don't want him to visit? tell him. Tell him you don't feel up to a visit and can he write instead. ? (in other words, take back the control he's just taken from you by writing that email back to you)
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