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gratitude28

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Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« on: November 07, 2006, 09:48:44 PM »
Hi All, and especially October (this is kind of an addition to the Hard Work Topic)...

In AA, we say, "take what you need and leave the rest." In being on this site and responding to other people and contributing ideas that may help others, you are doing a great thing. And I believe that even when you are feeling "good" or "healed" you should continue to help others.

When you come here to peruse and look for help or ideas for getting better, you will not agree with all posts or all posters. I learned from one member here that if a post gets windy and uninterestinfg to you, but you sense the person is in pain, just give them a cyberhug and let them know you care.

I often don't read the long, technical posts. If it is something specific to my situation, I might...It is nice of people to bring up the topics and post the info for those who need or want it.

one other thing we say is "principles before personalities..." sometimes a hard one for me. We are all here for a common reason, even if we are not alike outside of that commonality. And, yes, people do get a bit know-it-all-y. Speaking of which, I am going to step down from my soapbox :)

Love to all of you.
Beth
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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 10:30:37 PM »
Amen Gratitude!!!

I am so grateful for the people on this board and that there is such a wide range of views and tactics. What works for one may not for another...It doesn't make it wrong it just doesn't work for you. And who knows what doesn't work today may work tomorrow or help some one else. Take what you need and leave the rest..wise. I have some trouble getting through long post and deep intellectual ones (that make me think too much... Ouch it hurts my brain and throws me off thought, makes me feel stupid) but have learned a lot from them too. I am amazed by the generosity of knowledge and genuine efforts to make a difference.

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 11:04:21 PM »
Hi

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Take what you need and leave the rest..

Reminds me of a song.....

"just take what you need and leave the rest
 but they should never have taken the very best...."
                            --The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
                                               Joan Baez; The Band, Bob Dylan, etc

Sorry, folks, but I'm  SERIOUS lyric-head from the '70's

 :D :D

~dragonsamm~

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2006, 06:32:08 AM »
Thanks Beth :D

dragonsamm

I like serious lyric-heads from the '70's 8) No apology necessary what-so-ever but what I want to know is: where does one successfully tickle a dragon? Under the chin, end of the tail, where does dragon liiiiiike it? Me, i don't like it, don't touch me for goodness sake! Just please send some fire-breathing over here....it's cold in this little part of the UK.

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 01:15:22 AM »
Well, Portia,

I reckon that depends on your definition of "successful".  Obviously, the tickle is going to get you some heat, so if that's what you're looking for, just jump in and start tickling anywhere that suits you!!

 :lol:

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 10:04:30 AM »
I came here today because I was interested in your topic heading and because your posts have a solid, comforting, wise sense to them Gratitude.  I have not said anything over the recent  months about posts where arguments appear but I have wanted to and I think I will under this heading. 

Most of my life I have been confrontational and more than willing to jump in to settle a confrontation.  But in recent years I have seen the problem with the former and have lost confidence in the latter.  These days I just turn tail and run from conflict. 

As I journey through this labrynth of anxiety I wake in the night remembering, reexperincing the worst - most shaming and most fear provoking and loneliest experiences of my life.  It has been a painful few nights.  I am fighting the fear of being permanently trapped here in this failing.  My anti-anxiety drugs have helped me get far enough out of it to be able to fight against the remainder.  The battle, the struggle, the memories, the loneliness, the fear of the future are huge.  Only by taking the drugs do I have enough relief to even be able to have the darkness reemerge.  I have a long way to go and I am tired. 

Between my dreams, my memories, some recent arguments on threads I enjoyed and my slow emergence out of the deepest binding anxiety, I have understanding about my fear of these conflicts.  In my FOO there was no mediating of fights between my brothers and me.  It was the Lord of the Flies and I was the weakest link.  But as I look at each of my parents' FOOs there was no mediating there either and it was very much needed.  As a mother of a 5 year old it is abundantly clear to me that children need to be taught how to get along, how to compromise how to give in order to receive.  These are not natural traits.  But in my life it was strong man for himself.  And I went into life scrapping.  But it worked for me as long as there was money, prestige and connection behind me - and when those went so did the appearance of functioning go. 

My whole life's house was built on a foundation of sand and a couple of storms have hit.  Now I have to rebuild but I have no money, no friends, no luck.  But I do have some medicine to help me even out my playing field.

I know - you are wondering "why did you post this here?"  Well I thought I was going to write that "Take what you need and leave the rest." was the phrase that helped me respond to the arguments online lately.  But as I began typing me deep struggles and fears began bubbling up.  I am hating unmediated arguments because I needed a mediator in my life, because I need one today to help me resolve my tax problems and legal problems and I have no where to turn.  I could have a social life if I could get past the wretched fear and shame.  And though I am making progress in that direction, today I am slipping backward and needing to write about it.  Today the pain is big and the issues of rejection and abandonment have been reemerging for some healing.

I believe that these deep seated issues of true emotional abandonment are emerging because I am gaining strength enough to face them and begin healing.  I am thankful for this community and am coming to you for support and encouragement. 

Yesterday, my therapist and I talked about how in the past the harder I tried to overcome something or move forward the more stuck I felt.  For years I have referred to this as getting my wheel stuck in the mud and accelerating and accelerating to get out - all the while getting dug in deeper and deeper.  Finally, as I get a smidge of  relief from this overbearing anxiety I can see that progess got tied into fear of failure and a thousand other backward conflicting twisted concepts from FOO so that working hard was as anxiety provoking as failure was and they got all tied in together.  Now that's a true double bind.  The harder I tried - the worse I got.

From early on the fear of rejection and abandonment set off responses in me that would engender the very thing that I feared the most.  And now with very, very little support, I have to find a way out of this dark, frightening mess that I am in financially, legally and emotionally.  I am certain that I can do it.  I have seen progress since I began this medication.  But I will openly solicit help from anyone here.  your friend - GS

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 10:51:29 AM »
GS,
You are thinking so well. You're coming unstuck. I really do believe this.
I think as you make your individual steps forward you are not going to be perfect.
What a relief.

I am so very glad you are on anti-anxiety Rx. I can see how it's allowed your muscles to relax enough to let the brain breathe. (That's probably not an anatomically correct description.  :lol:)

This observation comforts me a lot, because it shows me how someone else who deals with anxiety has really shone a light on one of the substrata. Thank you so much:

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Finally, as I get a smidge of relief from this overbearing anxiety I can see that progess got tied into fear of failure and a thousand other backward conflicting twisted concepts from FOO so that working hard was as anxiety provoking as failure was and they got all tied in together.

I am going to hunt for some other organizations that can help someone who's mired in legal and financial worries. Will post back.

Hops
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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 11:00:12 AM »
GS,
Legal: http://www.lawhelp.org/

Accounting/financial: http://www.utah.tomorrowsmoney.org/main.cfm
                             
http://www.mymoneymanagement.net/?gclid=COru6aCouogCFTF2GgodiSnV2A

General: http://www.211.org/about.html

Hope some of these help, hon.

Hops
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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 11:22:19 AM »
Thank you Hops.  You always come through.  I have so much to say to you about your support.  I will save for later when I feel a little stronger.   Oops I'm being called away. darn - right in the middle - GS

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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 06:52:28 PM »
((((((((((((((((((GS))))))))))))))))))))
You are stronger than you know!!!!!
Love, Beth
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Re: Take What You Need and Leave The Rest
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 08:56:56 PM »
Thanks Beth,
Your encouragement is such a boost.   - GS