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Kristen

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my story about n mother
« on: November 17, 2006, 05:23:19 PM »
**this is a long post**


I am new to the boards and the whole concept of npd.  I have recently come to the realization that my adoptive mother has npd.  I am 23, and gratefully, am in a happy long-term relationship with my soon-to-be husband.  My fiance and I communicate openly and we have been helping eachother to be aware of N type behavior that we both exhibit sometimes. 

A little bit about my history: My birth mother passed away of a heart condition when I was an infant .  I was raised mostly by my father, his parents and my birth mother's parents, until my adoptive mother came into my life when I was 4.  She worked at the daycare where I attended and (I only know this from stories because I was too young to remember) we bonded or had a special mother-daughter relationship.  I'm sure I was eager to have a female role-model in my life, and I shudder to think that she might have exploited my need for a mother figure in order to fulfil some other goal for herself.  She and my father married when she was 21 and had my two half siblings.  We all lived as a family for 4 years until they divorced, and she later remarried to a man who had two children from a previous marriage.  The 4 kids lived with her and I spent most of the time with my father and some of the time with her until I was 14.

Some things about her parenting style and personality that I have now realized are not the norm:
-as kids we were not allowed to act up in public, bouncing around, making funny noises, and basically acting like children was not allowed and punishable by a very tight grip to the arm or the witholding of something later, like a snack.
-at family gatherings my siblings and I ate well and didn't act picky, our grandparents praised us and her because we were so well behaved.  She is very insistent on the picky eathing thing.
-disagreeing is forbidden.  In any form. The one time I had the guts to disagree with her in a non passive way, our relationship ended for 8 years.  Even saying something that could possibly be construed as a criticism is extremely offensive, like my stepfather saying she likes apple pie during thanksgiving dinner.  She made a scene and defended herself by saying that she does't like apple pie and that my stepfather said she did becasue he was really trying to say that she's fat. 
-Its all about her. I remember being so embarassed of her when I was teenager because when there was a get-together she would interrupt conversations just to say something mildly related that was about herself.   My fiance and I kind of joked about testing her sometime to see if we could coax her into talking about anything that does not somehow relate to herself.  Even when she came with me to try on wedding dresses, she did not talk about the dresses, or how they looked on me.  Rather she talked about how she knew I would like the one SHE picked out and that she knows me so well because we are so alike, or that she used to be that skinny when she was my age. 
-she picks roles for the children.  Some can do no wrong, others can do nothing right.   I had the unfortunate luck to be one who could not seem to do anything right until my new step brothers came into the picture and I left.  I really feel for one of them because he is extremely gifted and has adhd, but she doesn't praise him that I've noticed, but makes him do a lot of chores.  The couple times I have stayed over at their house to babysit I noticed that two of the other kids boss him around too.  I hope he has the strength to leave soon, I just wonder who will take his place.  I feel the moral obligation to stand up for him, but I know that will just make life harder for him.  I cant be there to protect him so I cant say anything.
-The "private face" and the "public face" are like night and day.  I dont know if its a good or bad thing, but since we had our falling out when I was a teenager, I have never seen her private face again.  That means that she is never cruel to me, or jugemental or bossy or insensitive.  She is just extremely, rediculously nice and generous.    She will give me way more presents at christmas than I think our relationship warrents and she is overaccommodating.  I don't think her private face disappeared, I know my stepbrother who does all the chores still sees it, but I dont think she will show that side of herself to me again. 


Having said all that, phew, it felt good.  I have come to the realization that I do not want a realtionship with her anymore.  I dont want her to be involved in my life or my future grandchildren's lives.  As it is, I have been talking to her and seeing her a few times a month, but my wedding is comming up and I am dreading what she will say/do in front of my new relatives.  I dont want her to say things that will hurt my dad on that day either.  Sadly she is already trying to co-opt my fiance's parents and she is really close with MY birth mother's parents, my fathers parents, everyone.  I think she makes it her business to be connected to and be generous to so many people so that she will never be alone.  I cannot move thousands of miles away, I cant avoid her because she will choose to not take the hint.  I need to tell her how I feel about her and I know if I do she will try to turn everyone against me or tell me or others that I'm crazy.  I've seen her do it to other people before.  How is it possible that someone I see as being so cruel can  fool so many other people into thinking she is angelic?    Is there a method for taking the next step? how do I confront her?




 

Hopalong

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Re: my story about n mother
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2006, 06:18:34 PM »
Welcome, Kristen.

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The "private face" and the "public face" are like night and day.  I dont know if its a good or bad thing, but since we had our falling out when I was a teenager, I have never seen her private face again.  That means that she is never cruel to me, or jugemental or bossy or insensitive.  She is just extremely, rediculously nice and generous.


I so feel for you. I recognise so many of these behaviors...(off the top of my head, after my own mother-struggles, I'd say if you can endure it being false, and find your intimate connections with other adult women and adult friendships...then in a way it may be a good thing. It's SO hard not to pat the tiger, though.

If there is other good news in it all I believe it's that you're learning about narcissism so EARLY. I was in my 50s before I happened on this sanity-saving information. Congratulations on that. It may be a struggle to untangle yourself from her influence but what a gift that you know about it now. You will find the strength.

I don't think there's a specific method that's right for everyone. But I would urge you to get a good therapist who will help you identify multiple ways to set boundaries with her. I think that's the one thing you CAN do...learn specific and subtle ways to say No and set limits. It may turn out to be a complete "divorce" or you may hang around for your step-bother. Kidnap him for happy times.

It might be difficult to go from all smiles and gifts to cutting her off. You certainly can choose that if you need to. And your new relatives will have to come to their own conclusions...your relationship to her (or non-relationship) is your own business. You can't control how she pretends in front of others, or even warn them adequately. That's a tough thing to accept but it really will give you more peace.

That was one of the most urgent things I felt...the desire to persuade everyone else. I can understand why you would so want noone else to be fooled. I think your challenge, though, will be to learn peace and equanimity inside yourself, so whatever drama or gushy fake play is going on, you have your own serenity regardless. You're entitled to it and you can't warn everyone. Most folks won't grasp it anyway...narcissism is one of the most slippery things.

Only other thought is, while you are dealing with this big revelation and huge issue...can you take your time with your engagement? Just wondering if you feel any pressure to marry. I know when there's an unhappy or unhealthy family issue, young people can feel an urge to quickly form a replacement family. As long as you feel really stable and sure, go for it and joy to you both. But there's never any harm in taking your time, either, if you need more.

Trust your instincts. You're a keen observer and I think you'll be fine. Reading a lot about boundaries (Google "boundaries in relationships" and you'll find a lot of wonderful suggestions) would be the most immediate practical thing I can suggest.

Best of luck and keep us posted. Glad you're here!

Hopalong
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Re: my story about n mother
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2006, 06:54:17 PM »
(((((((((((((((((((((((((Kristin)))))))))))))))))))))
How wonderful that you have realized this at a young age and don't have to go through years of torment to get to healing...
Yes, you have a new family now (with your husband-to-be) and you can give your family the love that you know how to give... I guess the good thing for us is we know how NOT to treat our family members...
Please vent if there is something you need to share. It helps to look at some of the bad stuff and then "give it away."
I am so happy you have a new life and a great happiness on the horizon.
Love, Beth
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Re: my story about n mother
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2006, 08:56:28 PM »
hi kristen,

Welcome.  The pain of having a N for a mother is great, I know.  I'm sorry your real Mom passed away.  Your father sounds like a good guy though.

confronting an N can be tricky.  There is a good book (I think) called Toxic parents that goes into how it may be done.

I myself have confronted my N parents.  what ensued was nothing like what I expected (fantasized) would happen.  Basically, they had amnesia about everything, couldn't remember any of the episodes I brought up, although I can remember them like they happened yesterday (although they occurred more than 15 years ago).  I did it in a very polite, and PC way even, with a counselor and my siblings there for support.  My Dad went into a narcissitic rage.  It was ugly.

After that they went into full attack mode and I stopped having a relationship with them.

The scapegoat might seem like the unlucky one, but they actually play an easier role than the favorite, in some ways.  At least they find it easier to become their own person, when they try (I believe).

That is probably a good idea to leave her out of the wedding and your life.

hugs,
bean