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Powerlessness
« on: February 08, 2007, 08:08:58 AM »
This past week I began thinking about this term, "powerlessness."  I have come to realize that I clearly feel powerless.  For me this has to do with money.  And while I have got a couple of dozen pieces of this puzzle, I haven't gotten it put together yet - though I am certainly close.  Last night as the family dinner my mother learned from my SIL that my father is not doing well.  Her comment was that she hoped to get more money out of him.  I swiftly responded that that was very greedy of her especially in light of just inheriting so much from her sister.  It is a powerful reminder that with her N traits she can only think of herself. 

If a psychologist had not diagnosed my mother as having N traits I would never have guess it myself because she plays the pitiful pearl role ever since my father left about 20 years ago.  It is very subtle how a "poor pitiful me" person can also be narcissistic.  I have not fully grieved the unkindness I received as a child.  I do so hope to get beyond it and become strong enough to stand on my own.  I am so much better but STILL not yet functioning and i realize that some of this has to do with money - being raised in a once wealthy family and a wealthy enclave and yet having barely enough to keep food on the table.  It is so clearly about a sustained sense of powerlessness. 

I am close to getting over this hurdle.  So close I can feel it and taste it but I am not there yet.

The irony is that I sense that it is faith and not striving that will get me there.  I don't want to do this alone. - GS

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2007, 10:01:15 AM »
LOL on the rabbit ears CB.

My financial struggles are so clearaly tied up with my psychological struggle.  My financial prison is barred with the same jaildoor that imprisons me psychologically and mess wise.  The same key unlocks it all.  My profound shame comes from the deeply embedded belief that I deserve my situation.

I saw a Dr. Phil earlier this week entitled, "Man Camp" in which three abusive couples came for help.  One of the women was shocked that Dr. Phil had never called his wife a bitch in 30 years of marriage.  She went on to say that she knew that she deserved it.  She could not get beyond the fact that no actions "deserve" abuse.  I suspect that deep inside on that wretched unconscious level I am dong the same thing.  That loneliness comes from the profound need to hear and feel that encouragement and support that never were there.  It is a pain that I am trying to excavate.

Today on NPR, Joan Didion was talking about her book and new play by the title, "The Year of Magical Thinking".  She said, very poignantly, that she could not understand what was going on inside of her until she got it out on paper. Her statement connected immediately about why I come here day after day.  I need to get this thing out - on "paper" and I need the support and encouragement that I get here.  It is becoming clear to me that here, I am getting that encouragement that I have so desparately lacked and longed for.  In the real world, people simply do not understand and are absolutely unwillilng to give an adult that kind of support, but here we know and understand how such an essential need could have gone unfulfilled.  And here the burden does not fall to any individual as it would seem to in "real" life.  Plus here we can support each other and I must keep reminding myself that inorder to get what I need I must give that very thing.

Last night I had a dream in which I felt confidence and belonging.  When I awoke I knew that it is that feeling that I must tap into.  I have somethings ahead of me today that I am running away from as i always do.  It is like my dog when he has fleas - he runs around the room as though he can get away from them.  I feel as though I am doing that as well.

I am doing better - but I have a long way to go.  I need to keep my mind on my end goal rather than stay in the ditch. 

I get comfort here but as soon as I log off I have left that comfort behind.  I am looking to internalize that comfort.  That is what I missed as a child and have never received.  I am resentful and jealous of people who have what I want - those are poisons that eat away at my being.  I actually think I am stuck at this infantile level waiting for the help and encouragement to come externally.  That's where it should come that's how we are programmed as infants to look outside outselves for survival. 

In my family - to be noticed was to be criticized.  Every moment present with others was inventory taking time, just filling up mentl notebooks with offenses to be brought up at a later time.  Now I must provide all of these wonderful nurturing things for myself and I resent it.  But I know resentment is self-destructive and so I go into some kind of a denial about that.

I think this is one of the dances I'm lock into.  Feeling powerless and waiting for the power to be granted to me, recognizing that taking power for myself will be sabotaged and then those beings who should have nurtured will be waiting to jeer my next failure.

I do see that I must walk myself out of this wilderness and I am sitting down pouting, screaming and yellilng about the injustice.  No one can get me through this but me.  Can I become father and mother to myself?  Can I cheer and encourage and nurture myself onto health and wholeness.  Yes I think I can but I must be willing to let go of my resentment and my tantrum throwing.  Psychologically, I am cutting off my nose to spite my face. 

This is what all this "rescue" stuff is about.  It is that need that goes back to my infancy.  The cure is to become that loving, nurturing mother to myself and give thanks that I have that in me.

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2007, 10:27:05 AM »
Dear GS:  I am SOOOO with you on all of this.  When I was about 10 my mom started making a lot of money.  We moved into a deluxe house.  I had a brand new car when I was 16 (not because I was the beloved child, because now they didn't have to drive me anywhere...............plus maybe to impress the neighbors???)  My mom was on a high because she was a founder in a multi-level marketing company and when she walked into a room it was as if Princess Diana walked in.  She loved that and thrived on it!!  She was in her 30s and loaded!!! 

She invested wisely and my parents have a ton of money in the bank.  So as to not "spoil" us, my nmom would always be willing to give us money if we were in a pinch.  But she has never just blessed us with money.  I have a special needs kid and it would have been so beneficial for me to be a stay-at-home mome.  But no.  I needed to work everyday in a great place............but in a place where my nmom has to have the final word.  She is in her 70s and clearly not up with the time but that doesn't matter to her because SHE wants what she wants and she gets what she wants.  She self promotes in our industry but doesn't have a clue about how to run the business from the inside out.  She has operated our business with smoke and mirrors for years.  So I have worked in a great place but feel like I am in prison!!!  I have felt powerless for years!!

But I am making such strides.  I no longer do what she wants.  I set boundaries.  The final boundary is to work away from her - to establish my own identity.  But how I wish she would say, "Look, I have so much money, why don't you take a lump sum, pay of your house and cars and stay home with your daughter."  But I know she won't and I almost predict that I'll get some pitance when she passes....or there will be many strings attached.  Like you only get $20,000 per year or something like that so I will have to work the whole time......

I feel your pain!
Kelly

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2007, 10:55:43 AM »
Hi GS:

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Can I cheer and encourage and nurture myself onto health and wholeness.  Yes I think I can but I must be willing to let go of my resentment and my tantrum throwing.  Psychologically, I am cutting off my nose to spite my face. 


Ofcourse, I believe, you can too!  Who says you can't?  Let me at 'um!!!  :shock: :D

Truly this is wonderful insight GS!  Does it seem like a huge undertaking?  Like a giant feat? 

Will you start with small steps?  Write down the stuff you've done right?  The things you like about yourself?  The times you've acted in ways you are glad of?  The traits that have helped you along so far? (inbetween feeling resentful and angry maybe?).  You do have gifts that cannot be purchased.  And the biggest prize of all is that there is no amount of money that can buy your peace and serenity, right?  If it did, then people with money would all be peaceful and serene.  8)

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The cure is to become that loving, nurturing mother to myself and give thanks that I have that in me.

I agree.  Not easy to do all at once but quite possible, a little at a time.   Will you find an affirmation, just one even, that you can repeat to yourself over and over, to help you along?

Possibly:  "I am becoming more loving and nuturing toward myself" ?

You said that you must be willing to let go of your resentment and tantrums......are you willing?  You can decide to let go when you're ready but until then......affirming what you truly desire, where you really want to be, even pretending you are already part way there.....won't hurt, will it?  Naw. 

Not trusting ourselves, not nurturing ourselves, not encouraging ourselves......that hurts the most, maybe?  But you can choose not to do those things any more if you want to.  You have the power to change!  How wonderful!!  You're rich!!

((((((((GS)))))))

Sela

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2007, 02:58:16 PM »
The strange thing about powerlessness is that it seems to be only with certain people, or in certain situations (where I've given my 'trust', or I'm 'vulnerable'?) where you actually feel unable to act in your own best interest.

There just seem to be certain people who can burrow in to our psyche's and make us our own 'weakest link'. With the rest of my family, I seem to be fine. I can speak up, say what I want, do what I want. But with the N in my life, I still come to that cliff that represents doing what I want vs doing what he wants me to do.

Maybe it's the black and white thinking that rubs off on us. If I don't do what he wants, then the WHOLE WORLD will fall apart. Versus: If I don't do what he wants in this moment, he will get over it and I will do what I want and the world will still spin.

SOOOOoooo many examples. I wanted to drive myself to the airport (I was going by myself to a funeral) and he INSISTED it would be best if he drove me. We argued for an hour, then had 2 days of silence between us. Then I drove myself to the airport and the world did not fall apart.

I wanted for so long to get a gym membership. But he felt so threatened by it. As if I would be swept off my feet by some steriod popping gorgeous guy at the first chance! We argued and argued. In fact after I first left him and then agreed to a "dinner" to hear what he had to say, he offered me a 1 year paid-for gym subscription to try and lure me back!!!! I refused the subscription and we remained seperated for 2 years after that. But, why didn't I just do it? I must have felt his emotions were more important somehow than my: health, happiness, etc. How silly now when I think back.

It is good to have the ability to weigh others' thoughts, emotions, and feelings when considering doing something. However, we need to have a balance and keep our own best interests at the forefront.

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"He who angers you conquers you." - Elizabeth Kenny

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2007, 03:24:18 PM »

I think of compassion as empathy in action.

Compassion for the other person, sensitizes you to the individuality and vulnerability of the other person.   It makes you see and accept the other person as a different person from you, with a separate set of experiences, a different temperament, different vulnerabilities, and, in some respects, different values.  Maybe, in a different stage in life that your present one.

Compassion and acceptance, unconditionally - along with self respect and respect the another.

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2007, 03:33:05 PM »
This helped me when in the stage of Powerlessness.  Have another somewhere on my computer - can't find it.   Leah


Overcoming Powerlessness

When you feel powerless, you feel afraid to express your needs because you fear (often rightly) that what little you have will be taken from you.  You may have learned powerlessness if you were kept in powerless positions repeatedly and/or over long periods of time (possibly during childhood) by those who used external forces (money, physical strength, legal status, and/or military force) to control you. You may have been abused as a child, a partner or spouse, an employee, a soldier, or you may have been the victim of racial or ethnic attacks.  Such prolonged abuse can cause you to become afraid to feel even your own needs, i.e., to admit to yourself that you need something.  You become immobilized.  And in certain critical ways you stop growing, you cease to thrive.

Distinguishing Externally Imposed Powerlessness from Learned Powerlessnesss

When powerlessness is "learned", it becomes self-perpetuating, even if the external forces are no longer there.  An abused child may grow up to feel permanently powerless as an adult, even though his/her parents no longer have physical or economic power over him/her.  One may then enter into a situation that repeats childhood experiences (e.g., living with or marrying an abusive partner), and therefore keeping oneself in externally imposed danger.  Or one may keep oneself down through self-abuse, compulsive behaviors, and/or depression...because the powerlessness has become internalized.

This is different from the externally imposed powerlessness of racial, class, and gender oppression, which may be enforced through economic, legal, physical, or military, might.  The secretary who is being sexually harassed, the single mother who cannot get a promotion due to sex discrimination, the homeless family that cannot afford housing: these are victims that require collective power and direct action to overcome their powerlessness.  Collective power may take the form of a union, or a "network" of friends, supporters and professional helpers.  Direct action might involve a lawsuit, going to the media, or organizing a strike or protest.  Collective power and direct action together make an even more powerful combination.

Even more insidious than this is when--as is often the case--externally imposed powerlessness is combined with learned powerlessness.  When this is the case, the above methods are not possible because the person is emotionally incapable of asserting her/his rights.

Overcoming Learned Powerlessness

The first step to overcoming learned powerlessness is to learn to feel entitled to your personal rights.  You have the right to live a life free from physical, emotional, sexual, and financial mistreatment.  You have the right to be treated with respect, to earn a livable income, to be informed of matters that affect you, and to express yourself freely (without harming others).  Most importantly, you have the right to ask for what you need (even though you may be turned down) and to fight for what you need and want (even if you are turned down!).  This list of "legitimate entitlements" is easier to read than to experience.  Most people who have learned powerlessness barely feel entitled to speak, let alone to speak freely.  Often professional psychotherapy is necessary to overcome the ingrained patterns.  Never the less, to overcome learned powerlessness, you must gradually, haltingly, but persistently lay claim to each and every human right, one after the other.

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 05:19:07 PM »
Powerlessness


Self-image

Many people have a self-image of powerlessness, believing that they are not able to achieve anything. This may take the form of needing to ask for approval before taking any action (I am not authorized to decide). It may also come from a self image of being unable to achieve goals (I do not have the skill or knowledge to do anything).

A low self-image can thus have a cripplingly paralyzing on a person, preventing them from even beginning any action.

Fear of failure

Another root of powerlessness is the fear of failure.  This is often based in the fear of persecution and rejection.

The person typically projects forward into the future, sees themselves failing and then continues to imagine others criticizing and ostracizing them. The illusion may continue into feelings of guilt, shame and loneliness.

Internal conflict

Internal conflict can lead to powerlessness, for example where a manager wants to discipline an employee but also wants to be liked -- the result can be a stasis of inaction.

When equal and opposite forces pull against one another, the net movement is zero. Internal conflict thus can create significant internal tension but no real movement.

The power of powerlessness

Curiously, powerlessness is a form of power.  If I feel powerless, then this gives me the power to ask for help.   I can be powerless like a child and seek help.


Seek, Find and Ask.

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 11:54:44 PM »
Dear GS,

I really, really feel for you.

You’ve come a long way and you see where you need to go.

You’ve become very aware of your road blocks, like feeling resentful that you have to re-parent yourself:  me too.

I also saw ”Man Camp” and had the same reaction to Dr. Phil’s comment about never calling his wife a bitch.

I too feel like a lot of my road blocks are due to my feelings that I don’t deserve to be ______________ (fill in the blank)  happy, successful, loved.  This belief that we don’t deserve good things is a result of our dysfunctional upbringing because we were raised as to feel that we were never “good enough”, so we don’t deserve good things.

GS, I think you are a wonderful person and perhaps I’m being too pushy with my opinion, but I feel something you said really gets to the heart of much of the negative feelings you have: “Psychologically, I am cutting off my nose to spite my face.”

I certainly do this.  We are our own worse enemies sometimes.  But, I am committed to stop psychologically cutting off my nose to spite my face. It’s so self defeating and leads to feeling so many negative feelings about myself.

“The cure is to become that loving, nurturing mother to myself and give thanks that I have that in me.”   YES!!! 

I like to think that today is a new day and I am a new person.  I am no longer that unconscious, blind victim of FOO dysfunctionality. 

Now, I can see how the FOO dysfunctionality damaged me and I no longer want to be subjected to it.  Thus, I pledge to myself that I will no longer psychologically cut off my nose to spite my face because, as a new, aware person, who is no longer blind to FOO dysfunctionality,  I choose to love my nose, face and myself.  I will no longer allow FOO dysfunctionality to defeat me.

I can now live in the moment and in this moment, I know I can love, accept and forgive myself. I can find the self confidence to thrive, try and succeed.

I can’t always feel this powerful and sometimes, I have to fake it to make it.  But, I have taken an oath to myself that I will no longer allow FOO dysfunctionality to defeat me.

I'm  sorry to hear you're not feeling well. Please go to the doctor and check it out.  It's hard to feel good about yourself when your body does not feel well.

Wishing you peace, love & acceptance of yourself.  Hope you feel better soon

Love,
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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2007, 08:30:55 AM »
Kell - I can see you making great strides.  Miracles seem on the horizon for you.  Boundaries are so important for us aren't they?

Sela - Write down the stuff you've done right? I think this is a great help.  I have done this but will do more. thanks. Will you find an affirmation Yes - Sela.  I certainly will.  You're rich!! Thanks Sela for redirecting my vision.  You are right.

Dandylife = here just seem to be certain people who can burrow in to our psyche's and make us our own 'weakest link'. We are such complex creatures aren't we?  No wonder we work so hard to understand ourselves much less anyone else.

Leah -  Overcoming Learned Powerlessness This is definitely what I am doing.  I will turn my reaction to this challenge from one of fear to one of challenge. Here is a big challenge before me - I can be powerless like a child and seek help. - finding real sources of help to seek from.

Dazed - Thank you for this: Thus, I pledge to myself that I will no longer psychologically cut off my nose to spite my face because, as a new, aware person, who is no longer blind to FOO dysfunctionality,  I choose to love my nose, face and myself.  I will no longer allow FOO dysfunctionality to defeat me. This will be one of my mottos.

CB123 - Could you find someone like that?  You dont have to do what they say.  You arent really giving away your power.  You just look at them as an advisor.  This is really what I need to do.  This actually scares me but I think that building up a set of advisors is what I need to do for several reasons.  I will take this on as a challenge.  Thank you for this suggestion.

Thank you all.  Yesterday afternoon after I had posted this I came back here to delete it because I had a revelation but after I read your posts I realized how important this posting had been to me.  I have to take Jr. to school and will post here later.  I have something significant to share with you all.  Thank you again for your support.  It is so remarkable to have real support.  It is a gift from each of you and a gift from God.  Bless you all. - your friend - Gaining Strength

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2007, 10:04:13 AM »
All,

This is so relevant to me. 

Dazed your post was so uplifting.

When I was with XN I often lay in bed beside him and thought He treats me like dirt because he thinks this is what I deserve.  I allow him treat me like dirt because I believe this is what I am worth.  This was very hard for me to do.

In my therapy and the last few months what has come up for me is how passive I am.  I am going to start a thread because while it ties in with this I really would like to explore it as much as possible.  For me I believe in it lies the root of my difficulties.

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Re: Powerlessness
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2007, 12:04:12 PM »
Hi Axa,

Thank you for your kind words.  I posted on your thread.

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