AN EVIL INSIDIOUS HEART...SELF GLORY AND WORLDLY SUCCESS

[michael]

LOOKS TO BE AN UHOH TOPIC
DUCK AND RUN...
OR FULL STEAM AHEAD COMMODORE...

to begin with maybe where the heart first appears in the king james bible
.... And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his HEART was only evil continually.  genesis 6:5

THE ABOVE AS RELATED TO THAT WE ALL FALL SHORT AND IT IS BY WAY OF A HEART THAT IS NOT AFTER THE
HEART OF OUR CREATOR BUT RATHER ARTIFICIALLY RATIONALIZES IT OWN GOODNESS OR CLAIMS THAT IT IS
TOO HARD OR IMPOSSIBLE FOR ONE TO BE AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART....NOW KING DAVID WAS NOTED
BIBLICAL I THINK AS BEING AFTER GOD'S OWN HEART AND THAT IS GENERALLY THOUGHT SO COZ
ONCE REVEALED TO HIM THE NATURE OF HIS SIN, HE WOULD SINCERELY REPENT AND SEEK GOD'S FORGIVENSS....

ah which brings up the question of narcissism and pscyhopaths and repentance and forgiveness...

an aspect that determines perhaps the degree of evil opened up by such disorders
is that their version deep down is perverted by whatever it takes to be successful in the eyes of others and the world
but thru losing sight of their own issues in such matters they lose sight of others as being as important
as they feel themselves to be..
which is that kind of thing of that new self regulatory theory of narcissism
that there is a blindness to the kind of contradiction of values that they seek.....

[JanetLG]

Michael,

There is a phrase that is common in the area where I grew up (Essex, England), that would be said when one reads a post such as yours. It goes like this:

"Do what?"

Roughly translated, it means 'I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about'.

Sorry.

Janet

[debkor]

Janet,

In the states it goes like this  *SAY WHAT* but I really like the Essex, England. 

Love
Deb

[JanetLG]

Deb,

As in 'Paris, Texas' rather than 'Paris, France'?!!

Janet

[Overcomer]

Evil?  Not so much.  Wicked?  If you dare cross her then the witch comes out.   She is so afraid to lose her edge and lose her center of the universe control that she does get a little wicked.

[WRITE]

It says two wonderful things always make me smile in Genesis 6, that there used to be giants and that people would live to be 120!

Michael, the transliterated word for heart here is 'leb' meaning in Hebrew inner man, mind, will, heart, understanding, seat of courage etc. in aramaic a concept of self as in 'heart and mind'.

Genesis 6:6 says

it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. so G_d sends a flood, which Noah survives with the ark....

So G_d has a heart here too.

G_d is a personal being with the Jews as his chosen people who will go on to rule his kingdom forever.

It is a mistake to take any scripture out of context with the society it represents or the received beliefs which have grown up around it.

Religion is a representation, a place between man and G_d.

I do not see Moses' G_d when I pray, nor pray to Moses' G_d. Do you see what I mean?

their version deep down is perverted by whatever it takes to be successful in the eyes of others and the world
but thru losing sight of their own issues in such matters they lose sight of others as being as important
as they feel themselves to be..

and does this not represent the truth in many of the founders of our religions, for once we move away from G_d towards the vested interests of groups G_d is no longer the most important criteria for what we do.

In this religion is narcissistic....and we turn prophets into idols, instruction into rules, good works into cults and prayer into petition.

The narcissist is motivated by fear and feeling powerless; likewise some of our religion.

The narcissist wants to be G_d of his world; we want to control G_d through superstition and ritual and a belief that we are more superior to G_d by following a particular set of complex arbitrary rules......

Sound familiar?