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axa

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when the .... hits the fan where do I go.
« on: October 17, 2007, 08:21:16 AM »
GUys,

Feel compelled to acknowledge how much I trust the opinions of people on this board.  This is where I go when the .... hits the fan.  It is the place where I can trust the opinions of others, where I know there is not another agenda.  This is a generous gift you give me.

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 08:34:16 AM »
Dear Axa,
  you are so right.I feel like  new person, today,too..
  I want to say that I realize that I gave terrible advice on your XN daughter.I said that you should stay in contact. After I read everyone else's ,I realized that I was waaaaay off.
  It showed that the majority was right, though.
 Love to you, dear .                                               Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 08:51:52 AM »
AMi,

I value and respect your opinion.  There are no rights are wrongs when people give me advice as far as I am concerned.  The differening opinions help me sort out in my head what is the healthiest way to go for me.  I appreciate that you take the time to read my posts and respond.  I like difference and I like being challenged.  Well done on your own journey and I am so glad that you are having a good day today.

axa

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 10:38:18 AM »
(((((((((Axa)))))))))) & (((((((((Ami)))))))))) & (((((((((Everyone)))))))))))

love,
Pops

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2007, 05:47:11 PM »
Dear Axa,

I consider you to be a gift to us!! I have learned so much from you, and felt so inspired after reading different ways in which you have healed and moved forward.

I guess the thing is, I (and we?) understand how hard it was, in the way only other victims of N abuse can know. Thats why so many things you've done seem heroic to me:)

X Bella

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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 04:34:43 PM »
CB, I was wondering why we're hearing so little from you, lately.....

.... walking with a gentleman at 5am in the morning?!?!

Sounds really really early.

And a wee bit seriouse: )

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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 11:54:02 PM »
I need a morning walk buddy!

Axa, you're a grace here.

CB, darlin...that's wonderful.
Early morning is magic.

(I must learn to sleep.)

love y'all,
Hops
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2007, 03:50:38 AM »
CB

Hopefully the road is getting a bit easier for us all.  Glad that you are taking care of yourself and getting stronger each day.  We have come a long way haven't we?  It does feel good to have figured things out and to choose the healthiest path for myself.

Hops,

Dammed sleep.  I struggle with it and contact with Xn threw a spanner on the works for me again.  Managed to get a bout 6 hours sleep last night and that was such a relief.  Feeling like a normal human again and ready to step back into real living.

xxx

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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2007, 06:04:42 AM »
::::YAAAWWWWNN:::

CB, Strong is a really good thing.

Enjoy your walks and take it one step at a time.

Axa.... I think we are getting better, glad you're recovering.

It is recovery, again... I think.  Any contact... has to be recovered from.

We're in trouble when we fail to realize that.

We're in the most peril when we're feeling strong and not being mindful about boundaries.


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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2007, 12:20:06 PM »
Lighter

It does feel like I am back recovering but this time thankfully I have more clarity and not willing or interested in being a victim.

Axa

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2007, 01:38:52 PM »
Axa... do ya think we really are interested in being victims?

I think it's more about feeling more fearful of being alone, on our own, without a plan, without ourseves.... than it is about choosing to be victims.

I guess we take that role as a default when we haven't done the work on ourselves, disciplining ourselves to set goals, make self care a priority, enforce boundaries......

hmmmmm.... there are leaders and there are followers, it's the way things shake out.  I'm more comfortable following.  I do it at school with the mommies who like to lead.... I'm the sidekick, happily.  The lead mamas are lead mamas, happily.

Same with relationships.

Probably most of us have felt more confidence in helping others than investing in our own solo plans.  We bolster others easily and struggle to nurture ourselves on the most basic levels.

When offered a position where we're promised nurturing and made to feel important, like we're going to be filling an important role we beleive we'll be comfortable in...... and we get to nurture... it looks like a win win, doesn't it?

But we didn't do our homework and we ended up learning HOW to do homework properly..... to believe ourselves and to beleive people when they show us who they are.

We don't need to be hit over the head anymore, do we?

And so you choose to say No and go back to self nurturing, setting goals and self care.

It's a very good reminder though.... what our hearts want to do.

Where we'll gravitate to, if left to undisciplined emotions that are still learning.

What our weaknesses are, if we aren't mindful to guard ourselves and our new boundaries. 

Good job, Axa. 

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2007, 04:56:59 PM »
Lighter-

You are so sophisticated and learned, well-traveled , artisitic, witty and urbane. And deep. I am super prosaic and dull, and admire you so- a glittering creature caged in N- fashioned circumstances. I only hope that you are free,soon, very soon, of all useless constraints and N considerations.

Love and Best Wishes,

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2007, 05:08:46 PM »
[I am super prosaic and dull,




Changing
   DON"T you say that about yourself or I will come and hit you with a stick.                             Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2007, 06:14:34 AM »
Lighter,

I needed to read your post a number of times to really HEAR what you were saying and now I do.  I think the contact was typical co-dep or whatever the word is for it, behaviour.  The underlying feature was a complete abandonment of myself.  It is like drinking poison for me.  It has taken me a week to recover from the experience. 

As a child I was aware of being a victim and being powerless and the familiarity of that role holds some pervese attraction for me.  I cannot speak for anyone else here but there is some part of me that still wants, in a twisted, sense to be a victim.  This explains why I contacted XN.  It has held up a big flag for me - the wounds, while less, are still present.  I also want to say that my self care routine went out the door when I made the contact.  The victim place seems like some kind of fall back position for me when I give up on myself. 

So in recovery again, two steps back one  step forward.  I am not beating myself up but learning how easy it is to fall back into the old ways.  Starting again with another little bit of learning under my belt.

Many thanks,

axa

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2007, 10:27:54 AM »
::sigh::

And that's the lesson here.... for us all, Axa.

Slipping backwards is drinking poison.

It's red flags waving.

It's sirens and alarm bells going off.....

but to us......

it sounds like home: /

Sirens..... like ones from Sinbad, the cartoon, lol.  Did you guys see that?  And the male crew was so happy to be eaten and drowned by things that had huge scary teeth, but loverly shapes and promises...... appealing to their human side..... their animal side, their egos..... their instincts.  All wrong wrong wrong..... nothing could have saved them. 

I hope we can identify the teeth,

and save ourselves,

in the future. 

This has been a wonderful excercise..... a wonderful exerperience to observe and connect important dots for me. 

Thanks for sharing this, Axa.