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betr4

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Life is good
« on: November 04, 2007, 05:53:15 PM »
Things happen the way they happen, the way the are supposed to.
I don't have a problem with that.
I wanted things to happen the way I thought they would.  And I did try to let them.
Living in a very emotionally abusive environment void of n's physical  emotional presence and n's own denial of the family he had somehow manufactured out of his own sick needs, which was myself and our 2 daughters, there was no way things ever just happened.

Under his (lack of) control and denial that we existed, nothing happened the way it was supposed to.  I have said that over and over.
"I never knew it was going to be this way".  "No one ever said it would be this way." 

I thought it was the way I thought it was.  It wasn't, it was the way it goes living with a n. 

I was in my own form of denial, not called denial at the time.  Just the day to day living with "I just can't believe this is happening".To the point that I hung on to whatever I could to keep believing that "it" would change and he really wasn't doing what I would not let myself see he really was doing.  I could not believe anyone would do the things he did to his own family.  I always discounted it and thought it would stop the next time.
33 years later.  Here I am.  It did happen. 
I do know that I what I wanted was really good.  I still want what I wanted then.  I know that living with a n does not make me wrong.  I just couldn't make it happen living with a n.
I am glad to know that good people, places and things do happen in life just like I started out belielving all those years ago.
BR

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2007, 06:04:36 PM »
Dear Betsy,
  You were in denial b/c your mind could not face the truth. Denial is a built in process in the mind like homeostasis is a built in process in the body.
  If there is too much of one substance  in the body, then other substances come in to create  balance   .I think that denial is just like this. We did not chose to be in denial. God gave us the denial mechanism b/c we would have gone insane without it(IMO)
  So, that is how we can look at the truth and not see it.I did this with my M from age 14 up until right now-bleh.
                            Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 08:14:16 AM »
BR,

I am glad that you still have that hope and faith in goodness still burning within you.  That feels like a warm fire I can sit next to.  Thanks!

I think I still hope for all those things I thought were good in the beginning.  My path seems to be taking some narly twists and turns and right now I feel like I am stuck in a foresty jungle.  It is hard to discern the light and although I don't wonder if there is goodness, I do wonder where it is for me and how I can find it. 

Poppy

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2007, 09:21:54 AM »
BR:  I cannot understand if  Life Is Good because you are leaving your H, or if you realize that there are very nice, sweet people out there (like us!! :D

In any event, I think I need to jump on the Life is Good band wagon.  Need to go out and buy one of those T Shirts!!

Because here is the deal..................I do not have cancer.  No one that I love has died recently.  I have a good job.  I have a great house.  My problems are small compared to all the starving children in Africa.  Those people who have lost children.  Paralyzed people.  ETC.

I like your optimism because it makes me pause to really look at my life and realize......hey, I do not have it so bad!
Kelly

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2007, 10:19:21 AM »
My perspective changes.  I know that very wonderful people, places and things happen in my life.  At the same time this marriage was a horrible pain I carried with me.  I could not "see" or realize that for so long.  I just got trapped somehow with the n and life became about him, totally.  He made it that way and my resistance made it even worse. Even when he was gone.  I did to me what he did till he came back.  I waited thinking it was not happening and lived as if he was involved.  Then he would come back and it felt real.  I thought he was back to stay and life would resume.  Never did.  It was his pattern, his way of life.  It was never going to be different as long as I let him have control.  I used to say that his picture was superimposed over my picture and made mine disappear under his.  I was right about what was happening.  I totally discounted that he was somewhere doing something when he was gone.  The only thing that mattered to me was he was back.  He had a totally double life going.  He had another life that just like the life he had with me, he had to get back to to control and keep going.  Back and forth, in and  out.  And the two did not connect.  It was the way he wanted it. 

When he came back it was to put it all back together and of course I thougt I was getting what I wanted and needed.  My stuff would get done, I would have a husband, I got treated like a queen (for a day or whatever the time frame for a particular time was).  Then, he would flip, be gone and I would go through the same pain and abandonment, then anger, etc., etc.,

I tried every behavior and emotion.  Nothing mattered.  The only thing that ever caused a change was when he would think I was interested in another man.

 Anything he perceived as a threat was the same as his other perceptions.  If he thought it, it was real to him.  He hated me because of what he thought I did to him and he idolized me when he thought I was leaving.  Then he would totally crash.  I think it is called a personality break.  He has had 3 or 4 in this 33 years. Right now he is in ego mania.  I am not even a thought.  He has competely deserted this territory here.

My life is good because it is good.  Not because I am leaving or staying with h or anyone else.  I used to hang all my hopes and life on that.  I had to get past that.

There is some relief from the pain as I live in my own reality and have distance from him.
However, like this morning, I went through major pain because our daughter mentioned my h, (her dad) being involved with our granddaughter today.  I raised my children with his disinterest, but now at times our daughter will call him to keep the grandchildren.  My d has resentment of course from the past, and it all comes out in her attitude toward me, not her father who is the fun time guy. 
I was crushed by what was going on and I had to get over it.  I did.  I think  had to be aware of what was happening between them today, feel the horrible pain of betrayal, again and work through it and now I feel like I have accepted it.
Lots of emotional flip flops going on. 
Contact from the h is coming eventually, as if nothing is wrong, except that "he' isn't going to take anymore abuse and live this way. (okay) 
For me, the talking and discussion with h is over.  I don't want to discuss with him any more about what happened or what or who is wrong or did what to whom.  That kept it going for so long.  The arguement was teh connection and I lost them all.  He left anyway.

I have a life.  Always did.  I lived it.  He was not a part of it.  He missed some wonderful things that I have to be grateful for. Now he wants to take for himself and leave me out.  I don't know how involved I can be with my daughter while she is involved with the father she never had.

I am an outsider in the family I thought I had.
That is reality today.  I know there are other parts of my life and the family part is very limited right now.

I am okay and working through all this.  My thoughts are cnofused but in there somewhere making all this con together.  I know it is up to me to live through it and come out learning from it.  I want to be a better me not al tangle up in someone else's horror.

I did not know I was the target of hate for a long time.  It still amazes me that a disordered person has to use other people in ways they do.  I am still learning and working on acceptance and action.
Thanks BR

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 10:36:30 AM »
Boy.  So you are still "with" this man?  Separated??

Betrayal.  It is a yucky feeling.  I have been betrayed by my nmom so much.  She doesn't think a bit about me.  SHE has to be in control.  I hate her for it.  When I think of all the people who had their day in the sun.  My nmom has robbed me of that.  SHE needs to continue to have her day in the sun.  She is obsessive about it and a phoney....oh well, do not get me started...

Someone said something to me once that impacted me so much.  I was dating a man.  It happened very quicky.  We dated for three weeks and he had already bought me an engagement ring.  Then bam.  He walks into my home and I can tell something is just different.  He took a shower and came out and said to me that his exwife had called him the night before and poured her heart out to him.  She made a mistake.....she wanted him back.  Well, I felt like I was hit by a ton of bricks.  So he told his wife he had a relationship with me and couldn't just give it up like that.  But at the same time he thought it was right to give his marriage a second chance.  (at the time I was devastated................now I laugh because it all happened so quick and it really wasn't love - it was the thought of love.................)  But at the time it was devastating.  So this person says to me......

KELLY....ARE YOU THE COSTAR IN HIS LIFE OR ARE YOU THE STAR OF YOUR OWN LIFE???  YOU ARE NOT A SUPPORTING PLAYER IN HIS SAGA.........LEAVE AND BECOME THE STAR OF YOUR OWN LIFE.

So I called the guy and said, I AM THE STAR OF MY OWN LIFE.  I CHOOSE NOT TO BE A SUPPORTING PLAYER IN YOUR LIFE!!!  That got his attention.  He liked being wanted by two women.......but I walked away determined to be the star of my show. 

BR:  You talk of having HIS life superimposed over your life.  Your life became HIS life.  I have felt this so many times.  I have to come in line with someone else.  My H is that way.  Our friends are HIS friends.  My friends are my friends.  He makes no attempt to incorporate himself in MY life.....doesn't befriend my children....nothing.  So it is up to me to live my life and if he wants to be a part of my story then that is up to him......if not......I guess we coexist......he can live his own drunken life and I can live mine with my children, etc.

Same with you I suppose, huh???
Kelly

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2007, 03:04:14 PM »
Yes, Kelly that is the way it was with me.  Separate lives.  Until he would come back into my life for a day or two. 

When he wanted to.  That was the whole key.  And I always let him back in.  I had no idea that I was enabling a double life for him.

Now I want to and have asserted and stated that he does not live here and we are separated and do not live together.  He tried to come back in several time, but I am not able to "enable" it anymore.  The difference is that I am accepting what it is and can see that there is no quick fix or changing his whole life when he is back here with me.  His other life is still out there and he has to keep it going to.  So I distance myself and do not see or hear from him. 

It is painful when I hear of his contact with our daughter and grandchildren.  I felt left out, because I felt like they were "mine".  My daughter seems to almost prefer his company and relationship with him.  I am in very limited contact with my family at all which makes me feel isolated at times, especially when I hear of their involvement.

I have to really focus on my own life and know that I am making choices to separate myself from him and that it is my choice.  The only other choice is to live his double life with him, in denial.  I can not do that and live with myself.

Staying in the present and sharing how I feel and what I am experiencing is what gets me through right now.  When I keep it all inside I have strong emotions that are really hard to handle.  So I share about it here and read to hear about others and it really helps.

I am learning how to be the star in my own show like you said.  I can no longer play the part I played in his show or the role I played in this family.

I am feeling what I feel and today it has been difficult off and on.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. BR

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Re: Life is good
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2007, 07:55:10 PM »
Hi BR,
I hope you won't distance yourself from your D because of her attachment to her Nfather.

She can't help it. Her need is greater than her ability to renounce him.

She still needs you...

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