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« on: November 24, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »
Hi to all friends here!  I just thought i'd update on what's goin on in my life at the moment...

My husband and daughters went to the Festival of Trees today, because they entered gingerbread houses in the contest.  18 year old won 3rd place for hers.  other daughter won the joy of building it.  ;)

When 18 yr old ND decided to start on me with the verbal assaults, instead of reacting, i decided to write.  I just wrote down everything she said negatively to me, so I can come here and share and be done with it:

"Mom will be one of those old ladies you see on the news who died because they THOUGHT someone was shooting them!" (this was said as a result of my hearing gunshots in the complex across the street, and becoming concerned)

"The other day when Mom was driving she almost took out the road signs and arrows, cause she was "thinking""
(true story, but not something to use to shame me over)

"Oh no, we can't get out cause the car is still moving!"  (said because of a time when my equilibrium was "off" I felt that when the car was parked, that it was still in motion)

When I mentioned that some candles smelled really bad from a place, ND said "you sure they didn't smell like old lady crotch like YOU?"

When I told ND "I love you ____" she said "i'm sorry my passions don't run nearly as strong toward you."  (this was said with an "air" of superiority in her voice, like the lady in 'the Devil Wears prada"

other than that, we have a new puppy and we're all getting ready for christmas.

By the way, how do you get a male neutered dog to stop trying to ride on a female neutered dog?


When ND's father said "oh ---- you'd cry your eyes out if your mother died!"  ND said "yeah for the first 2 minutes"





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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2007, 04:23:56 PM »
It sounds like a horrible situation ,Laura. I am sure that it is heartbreaking to you.I am so very sorry.              Love  Ami
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2007, 05:26:00 PM »
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We have to hear both sides and we have to hear what we both "meant". And I hope that you are not totally adverse to being part of the problem and are open to listening.....

Lupine,  I encourage you to go back and re-read what i posted in my description of what ND said to me, because I think I was pretty clear in admitting that I did indeed daydream and almost hit the arrows on the road, and I did say that I heard gunshots and was concerned.  I did say my part in it.  As far as what I said in response to my Ndaughter, basically, most of the time I say "whatever" or I respond to the non-volatile part of what she says to me.

for example, if she says "you are so paranoid.  I bet you think that car that just backfired was a GUN, right mom?  Oh NO! let's all run for cover!"....my response might be, "I heard the car backfire."  I would not respond to "you are so paranoid."  the logical retort on her end of my saying "no I'm not" with her, is always 'then why did you"....or "I heard you say ............."  so, i simply have learned to diffuse by responding to the "non-accusation"

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What I have really learned is that listening is incredibly important.  It's like learning a new language and when you have done so, your life becomes larger.

Listening is INDEED important.  Right on, Lupine!  It was in learning to listen to my daughter, that I learned how to NOT react to the accusations.

The issue with my daughter though, is that after she attacks me verbally, if I confront her in front of my husband (after confronting her to her face, gently and getting no remorse), her reply will be "oh GOSH dad, mom doesn't even know how to take a joke."

For instance, when she said to me today, "your children should be taken away" because of a lude comment she made that my husband and i stood up to her together on," when I told my husband that she told me that my children should be taken away, both HER and NH ganged up on me and said "oh please, don't you even know when she's kidding/I'm kidding."

So, verbal abuse, when confronted directly in my home, sadly, is considered "just joking" in order to not accept the responsibility for it. nor the correction that is deserved.  Is that because of how I raised my daughters?  Perhaps I was a bit too accepting of their being allowed to speak their minds as children if they disagreed with something or to question it.  I really don't know, but the point is, verbal abuse is WRONG...its NOT a joke unless the other person has been joking all along in a similar way, and trust me, my daughters are very intelligent and know the difference.  The point was, ND does not like being cAUGHT and will do anything to save face in front of N father.

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2007, 06:52:03 PM »
I hear that you have done everything you can to communicate.  Have you considered disengageing, ie., no contact.  Maybe it would be a way to preserve yourself?

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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2007, 07:27:06 PM »
Lupine,

I'm not sure which person you were suggesting I might consider disengaging from.  I often disengage from my daughter, but as i said in an earlier post, when it comes to Fight or flight, I am a "fight" person.

As long as someone on here chooses to engage me in convo, I will reply.  If it gets to a point that I feel voiceless or unheard, you can count on me becoming silent just as I did with Dove and Jodi.

~Laura

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Re: Update
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2007, 08:41:06 PM »
Laura, you can try spraying the dog with water or snapping a newspaper.  Unfortunately, that is just what dogs do.  It's how they show dominance.  And they just do it.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation with your daughter too.  It's really sad.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 03:42:01 AM »
I couldnt live with it.
It would break my spirit to be talked to that way every day.

If I couldn't make them stop I would leave.

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