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Spirit

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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2004, 09:21:51 PM »
Name and number for that matter.

I certainly didn't like the way my parents shortened the name. Especially my dad, he calls it in such a way.. it sounds feminine..that too in such a parental soothing voice.. just to make me feel belittled !

I gave myself a nickname when I was in 24, but on second thoughts  I changed it to my original name... in FULL.. not hte way my paretns called.
And it is mine now.. and it is nice !

About number.. my Ndad was born on the 10th.. he wanted me to be born on the tenth.. he tried to delay my birth.. thankfully due to doctors intervention I was born on the 9th. He has even spelt my name so that it has 10 letters.. though the more popular way of spelling it has only 9 letters. He believes 10 or 1+0 = 1 is the perfect number and others fall short of it especially 9.. cos '9 is adament by nature' etc cos whatever happens it repeats itself. 9, 9x2 = 18, where the 1+8=9, then 9x3=27 2+7= 9 !

This 10 and 9 battle has gone too far. In football he prefers players with the numbr 10.. thinks they are the real stars etc..The guy feels so much about himself that he feels insecure if anyone wearing 9 outperforms the number 10 I think. But the funniest thing is he has embedded the feeling so much deep inside me that I am the opposite negative. ! and he has made it so conscious that I almost feel uneasy following any footballer who wears 10 or when my dads birthday turns up. Imagine Michael Owen scores a hatrick agains't germany.. and my bad feelings are triggered ! Even some of my compulsive behaviours are related cos of this I think  :cry:

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2004, 06:31:55 AM »
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Does anyone else feel as if they don't have a name??


"Yes!"
I'm a male 6' tall Blond hair / blue eyes with a full blond beard. Not a wimp or prissy.
My name is a gender neutral name (Tracy). To this day people that I've known for years call me "Terry",  "Stacy", "Travis" (It has to do with my last name). I've always hated my name.  People can't seem to connect me with my name. People skirt around it and never call me anything or call me "Bud" "Buddy" or other pet names for the times you can't recall what a person's name is.
I used to go rounds with my parents on why they were so mean for naming me such a weak ass name for a guy. I was tortured by kids in grade school and up until High school because of this inappropiate moniker. I've had job interviews that have lasted only minutes cause once they see that I'm not what they expected.(I have a dibbly thingy as Portia and CG would say) On and on with the bad experiences.
  I've talked to a lawyer about changing my name and have seriously considered it since my N parents aren't speaking to me anyway. I can't seem to come up with one. I about to hit the big 4 0 and I might just give myself a legally changed birthday present for myself.

Any suggestions out there?? ( I would love to hear what Portia, CG, Spirit, Gingerpeach, Dawning have to say!)

MrT

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2004, 09:47:06 AM »
Hiya all, hope you don't mind me breaking out of the ramble thread for a mo' to come and chat with you! :D

Gardener! thank you for your post, I loved it, 'your name is safe in their mouth', aren't kids great with their honesty and insight?

Mr T...well well. Now I have a good picture of you, how about the first name of Viking? You can use Vic too but spell it Vik in a really 'alternative' way?! You look like a Viking to me!  :D Respect Mr T. What name would you like?

Was it Spirit with the numbers game? Spirit, 9 is my favourite number, 3x3, most solid, sturdy number there is, the trinity squared etc. Obviously any N can only have 1 because only 1 exists for real, all the other numbers are there to reflect the glory of 1 huh?  :roll: Sad.

P

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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2004, 09:57:47 AM »
sorry...that was me...but at least it gave me another look at Spirit's post. Spirit, this is wonderful!
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'9 is adament by nature'

yep, and why not hey? why not! Let's all be a little more adament for a change. Sheeeesh! What a quote. Real crazy but I understand it. 9 won't be controlled will it? It just does it's own weird thing without any regard for the wonderful wholeness of 1+0. And that's another point about 1 - it needs a zero to feel superior to!  Gosh this is stupid but it makes such sense. Hope I'm not freaking anyone out here, not intended. I like numbers but it's best not to get OC about them....they occupy a different abstract part of the universe to us simple humans...just let them do their own thing Spirit, and don't give in to playing any numbers lottery games! Best, P aka S aka F
PS. Just to go back in to numbers....a little regression only, I promise, I was born on 12th...1+2=3 which leads me to ...no, I am stopping now. :D

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2004, 09:27:30 PM »
Portia,

Your number theory really brought a big smile to my face. I wish someday someone would actually tell it to him point blank  :D

The funny thing is whenever someone makes fun of any of his theories ( like the number theory ) , he gets a 'strange pain in his chest ' and he would rush to the kitchen where he stores his collection of tiny white pills and would take a few of them 'just in case' :roll: I somehow suspect that the homeopathy doctor who gave these small pills which dont have any side effects are just to keep my Ndad satisfied !

And btw.. when it comes to swallowing pills he takes an exception to his number theory.. he prefers 9 to 1   :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2004, 10:34:18 PM »
Hi MrT,

I too have considered it but not that seriously. You seem uncomfortable with it then go for it. Afterall it is your choice as to how you need to be called. About myself I didn't cos I felt a sense of nativity. My name was like  my 'homeland' which was invaded, so I fought from outside to regain it and hoist my own flag there ( or here ) !  I have fought a battle and won my name from my parents ! Having said that changing names is also winning that battle, just different tactics. Ultimately feeling belonged to our own name is what matters no matter how you achive it !

About suggestions for names.. hmm .. I like mythology, I would go for a character with whom I could identify, now who means what is entirely your perception.. good luck :)

Spirit

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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2004, 11:23:29 AM »
Hey Mr T.,

I had to chuckle when I saw Portia's suggestion for your name because after reading your physical description and your request for names, the first thing that had popped into my head was "Thor."

Sort of the same idea, you know..... Viking - Norse - god.  And Spirit said that she liked the mythological names. So, it seems that we are all on or near the same wavelength.

So, maybe this bears some futher investigation.  I'm sure there are other Viking/Norse names if these suggestions don't suit you to a "T."  (Sorry, I couldn't help myself there, the pun just sort of wrote itself.)

So, do you like the Viking association?  It's definitely very masculine.  Should we do more research?  Do you have blue eyes?

Names are just so personal.  So intrinsically part of who we are and how we see ourselves.  Remember that we have been identifying with our name to some great extent since before we were even verbal.

I loved that quote from the little boy about how a name is safe in the mouth of someone who loves you.  So true !

When I meet someone and they tell me their name and it is one that has more than one spelling, I usually ask them what the proper spelling is.  Because that too is an important part of a name.  And somehow, in my mind's eye, I "see" a Cyndi differently from a Cindy.

When I was a child, I always felt badly for the children whose names were mangled by the teacher on the first day of school....and for weeks afterward sometimes.  It seemed as though the teacher didn't think that it was important enough.  And I remember the sadness, shame, embarrassment  ....I'm not even sure I knew what the emotions were.  But you could see it on their faces.

When I was a teacher, I made sure I went to the Guidance Office a week before school started and asked for the proper pronunciation of all of the students names and then practiced, so they would roll off my tongue as easily as a Smith or a Jones.  Name sounds and letters are IMPORTANT !!

So, Mr. T., what do you think? Shall we look further into the Viking connection?  Or should we expand the search?

Gingerpeach



PS  My given name is Virginia.  I never identified with it as a child....too formal and of course, that was what I was always called when I was in trouble !!!  My family and friends always called me Ginny.  

As I have gotten older, 51 now, I have grown into Virginia and often use it, especially when meeting people professionally.  If I get to know them better, then I tell them to call me Ginny.  It's one of the ways that I consciously practice boundary setting.

As for Gingerpeach, well .... that's my mother's affectionate name for me. Has been for probably all 51 years.  She's 78 now and still asks how her Gingerpeachy is.  It's my "happy" name, my "loved" name, my "smile" name, my "safe" name.

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2004, 08:11:50 AM »
Hi ladies and gent,
I appreciate your willingness to help me out with this name thing I'm going through. I've been wanting to change it for so long. My grandfathers' names are James (Welsh descent)  and Dock (German descent)  so I don't think I will choose either one of them although Dock is unusual (even for his family).

I forgot to add that my last name is considered Welsh/English.


Portia - Don't be thinking any bad thoughts about me now -  I know you are sassy and I don't want to turn too red when I read your postings!  :wink: Thanks for your input. I like your suggestion! I don't know though if my friends and family could call me anything with "King" in it. They think i'm conceited enough. I can see everyone rolling their eyes already.  
What do you guys think about  "Nik" ? Any bad connotations or know any psycho Nick's?

Spirit - Thanks for your input too. You said  "My name was like my 'homeland' which was invaded, so I fought from outside to regain it and hoist my own flag there." - Yeah man I've been there too. I sought to make it my own but finally realized in my "homeland"  I didn't have any tourists 'cause nobody wanted to visit Inappropriateman'snameville.  I know where you're coming from and will probably take that course of action but It's nice to think of alternatives.
It's funny you mentioned numbers too. Kids use to call me "13" cause in Spanish 13 is pronounced similiarly to my name.  
As far as your suggestion. I think I like Hercules the best. More eyes would roll - I can hear the whispers now. The rest of the names are taken by my friends and family members for the names of their pit bulls!  :roll:

Gingerpeach - You are always a sweet peach. ( I couldn't help myself either but you are so very sweet - and don't you ever change!) So, you like Thor.  :wink:  I can see my son calling me "Four"   :lol: as we are still trying to help him with his pronounciations and enunciations. Maybe "Four"  would be a good name to Spirit's dad.  :roll:
My great-grandmother Virginia was named after her grandfather's mother  - a Confederate Civil war colonel's daughter. My greatgrandmother was know as "Virgie"  I didn't realize that Virginia could have so many pet name derivatives. It would have never occured to me that Ginger was derived from Virginia.

Well I appreciate everyone's input so far. I still haven't quit thinking about  a change though and the dreaded big 40 is looming ever so closely on the horizon. (that's another story - how do you survive turning this ghastly age?)

MrT.

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2004, 11:10:06 AM »
I, too have many issues with my name. I was named by my adoptive mother, who is the narcissist in my life. She named me after a friend of hers, whom she hasn't seen in more than 55 years, and whom I've never met. I have never felt at all connected with that name. Glennis has so many horrible connotations to me now. The full name was used when she was angry. The condescending "Glenny" was used the rest of the time. The tone of voice she uses whenever she says my name to this day always sounds like I'm in trouble. I hated any pet names she tried to give me. They were also demeaning and condescending, and I wouldn't respond to them.

I spent 50 years spelling and explaining my name to people. I discovered I was adopted at 27 years old (Mother would have been happy if I never knew. Her control of me began to diminish immediately after that.) It wasn't long after my initial discovery that I learned my birthname, Donna. In fact, after I found my birthmother, I discovered I had been named after my vaudevillian grandmother.

I feel much more like Donna than I ever felt like Glennis. Sure, Glennis is more unusual. But to me, Donna is more real. I haven't legally changed it, because of the hassle. Perhaps someday I will. But I use Donna as a pen name in my writings. I can keep in better touch with my authentic self somehow that way.

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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2004, 01:50:44 PM »
I started this thread a week or so ago, but I seem to have got lost, and forgotten.  I seem to have turned invisible all over again.

Not doing well at present.

 :oops:

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2004, 02:42:22 PM »
October, I'm sorry. Actually, though, I was responding to your first post in this thread, rather than the others. Yes, I feel unconnected to my name, as well.

I also relate really well to your screen name, being an October child, too.

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2004, 07:58:06 AM »
Quote from: Glennis
October, I'm sorry. Actually, though, I was responding to your first post in this thread, rather than the others. Yes, I feel unconnected to my name, as well.

I also relate really well to your screen name, being an October child, too.


(((Glennis)))

It wasn't you prticularly - it had been going that way for days.  Every time I logged on there was a notice that someone had added to the thread, and for days there was all sorts of chat.  I tried all sorts of positive thinking, to say this is a good thing, that so many people relate, but they all ended up talking with one another, and I felt left in a corner.

Yes, I am an October child.  Perhaps we should plan a party??????

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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2004, 09:43:02 PM »
October,

    Hi, I was just checking in on the Names subject because I saw you had posted. I was thinking, cool, October is adding something again to the post, she seems really interesting. I like people from the UK. (I'm in the States)

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Thanks so much for your insight and support.
 It aided my healing. Too much of my heart
was in this post to let it remain here for posterity on the web.
The post served its purpose and now it is time to
edit it or gently take it down.
 
To every thing there is a season, and a time
to every purpose under the heaven:  Ecclesiates 3:1

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  I'm glad you posted how you felt, (((((((((((((((October)))))))))))))))

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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2004, 01:51:52 AM »
Hi Cathy!  

You brought up some interesting points about names.  It really has made me dwell on that thought for a while now.  Looking back, my mother NEVER called me by my name - it was always a pet name.  They never made sense either.  I will share one with you now that makes me laugh although I never understood it - Jody Queenbee!   :lol:   All the nicknames have fond memories associated with them, but you have made me question the reason why she never called me by my name....why it always had to be a nickname - and a nonsensical one at that.  Curious.

I am so glad you shared your feelings, but at the same time sorry that you felt invisible.  I am always very moved and inspired by your posts.  Several of mine have gone off topic at times...I think we all just get caught up in the moment sometimes.  I want to continue to hear your voice - it is a strong, educated, encouraging voice and one that I always look for in my visits to the board.  

Big supportive hugs to you.  

Want to share more about feeling invisible?  If so, I'm here.  If not, that's ok too.  

Your cyber-friend,
Michelle

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2004, 05:06:41 AM »
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October,

  I hope I didn't overdo the understanding part.  :oops:
    I'm glad you posted how you felt, (((((((((((((((October)))))))))))))))



Thanks, flower.  It is lovely to know that I have friends, who understand even if I whinge a bit.  I spent several days feeling lost, and in the end the only thing to do was to write down how I was, even though I felt stupid doing it.  But it has got me back here.

Things are a bit difficult at present, but at least you can't say that life is dull, lol!!!  However, I managed to get the grass cut yesterday, which is good.  Only need to sort the ironing and run the vac and a duster round and all will be well again.  In the middle of trying to sell my house, because I need to sort out some money situations (ie debts), so I have to keep the place tidy and clean, and that is not easy.   :lol:

Meanwhile, missing seeing my friends, and feeling a bit overwhelmed.  Not surprising when I think about it, but of course you don't always think first.  You feel bad for a while way before you stop to think why.

So, where are you in the States (roughly; my geography is a bit rusty).  I am in England, about 30 miles or so due north of London.  

C