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reallyME

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about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« on: December 27, 2007, 10:00:01 AM »
Ok, this is how it has been explained to me...

A child is raped, stuck with pins, sliced with knives in sensitive places, sodomized, locked in coffins, whatever...and, obviously, these things are way too HORRID FOR ANYONE to endure, and especially a 3 year old or child of any age, so, in their mind, due to the pain and fear, they begin attributing these feelings to other parts of themselves, that can then remain separate during the abuse.

The problem is, although this spares the child during the torment, as an adult, these "alters' can switch from one to the other, causing confusion in the adult, or behaviors that are not healthy.

When a person's alters are switching, severe headaches can occur, flashbacks that the person has no recollection of, since the alters were the "beings" that went through those experiences, rather than the original child.

Further, a person with alters can often feel depressed or anxious yet have no visible reason why, until someone gets closer during "switching" times.

The other problem this causes, is that, as an adult, the 'alters" are living 'for" the actual person, so the actual person is never really seen in life, and it's as though fantasy creatures are doing, feeling, acting on
behalf of the person.

In the book I read, during integration, the lady, Karen, realized that SHE was not the one who raised her own children...an alter did, so she had to get to KNOW her own children over time again (after 20 plus years had passed).  She also was not the one who worked at her job, so, certain skills that she used there, the actual PERSON did not have; the alter did, and there were some things Karen did not have the ability to do, that the alters had been doing.  (writing with left and right hands)

that's how it is, and that's why adults should not still be living with alters, whether they have taken over or not.  Yes, it kept them safe and spared from feeling things as children, but now, as adults, it's time to fully "live"  "feel" "act" on your own, as the original person you are.

I get in a lot of battles with adults over this topic, because they will almost fight like they have a "right" to keep their alters, but what i believe it is, is a fear of living, feeling, doing, having to learn things they don't know that the alters do.

~Laura




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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 02:06:46 PM »
Thanks Laura,

That make MPD much clearer. What a burden to carry. Although it serves the child to escape from unbearable experiences in the end this accomodation to terror prevents the abused person from having a real life.

Sea

reallyME

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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 03:41:22 PM »
Sea Storm,

I love the way you summed up my endless rantings:
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Although it serves the child to escape from unbearable experiences in the end this accomodation to terror prevents the abused person from having a real life.


you're the greatest, girl!

~Laura

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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 04:09:50 PM »
Right back at ya, girl.

I laughed when I got your message.  I was awed at your knowlege and understanding of MPD. So I just coughted up a little summary. I thought Boy, this is too good not to reply to.

Love,

Sea Storm

reallyME

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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 06:32:22 PM »
Izzy, I'm hoping you are not becoming offended or feeling cornered somehow by the topic.  My heart really goes out to people who have mpd issues.  It would be so hard to wake up one day and realize someone else was living my life for me.  I had never even thought about that, until i read the book.

Are you getting some help with integration or did you go about things a different way?  I'd be interested in hearing you share, if it's ok.

~Laura

reallyME

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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 09:38:10 PM »
Hi Izzy,

Are you still seeing your therapist?  She sounds like she is very caring and helpful to you.

I understand what you are saying about being disconnected from feelings.  I've often felt that way at times too.

Thank  you so much for being so open with me.

~Laura

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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 11:57:16 PM »
Izzy dear,
I just want you to know I think you are just wonderful and fine just as you are.

I think if you read Old Yeller aloud to yourself, you might cry. Or you might not.

Either way, you are one of the least crazy voices I've ever heard.

Just so you know.

love
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Re: about mpd: how alters enter into someone (triggering)
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2007, 08:30:48 AM »
Dear Laura,
  I was not an MPD, thankfully,but I can relate to not 'being there" in your own life. I was not there and that was one of the reasons that I 'gave up"
 No matter what I did,I was not there,so "Why bother?"
 I am feeling more alive as I reclaim my feelings(core) and practice trusting it.                                   Love  Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung