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Re: useful or useless?
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2008, 01:31:56 PM »
No, Leah, I know you as you are now and love you for that. I know that I cannot imagine others' pain here on the board. Please, no matter whether you ever share any information again or not, remember that none of your past was your fault, and you are what you are now. And I am sorry that anyone was cruel enough to use your story against you.
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« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2008, 02:27:56 PM »
I can relate to your openness of what happened to you, being used against you.  As I've said, that's what happened, not when I shared my story only, but when those in my story came here and began telling their side of things.

I can't say it's caused me to be more careful however, because i am not one to be censored, but I rarely use the pseudonames and especially not real ones.

Leah, I think again I have to say that we need to keep in mind that the people here are abuse-victims or abuse-survivors.  What you are going to be responded to with in a lot of cases, is their own defense mechanisms that they are currently using, because of not finding help for their pasts.  Not surprising at all, but also very painful for you and my heart goes out to you for that surely.

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« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2008, 03:28:38 PM »
Dear Beth,

Thank you for your perception, and validation, of me as a person, here today.  And for your kindness also.

Truly, very much appreciated and deeply valued.

Love, Leah
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« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2008, 03:43:35 PM »
Dear Laura,

Thank you very much for your kindness and empathy, which I very much value and appreciate.

I do remember you sharing of what had happened to you, and that must have been dreadful too.

Love, Leah
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« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2008, 05:19:09 PM »
Hi TT

If you google your name, ie, mine is LeahsRainbow, then, google brings up 2 posts on this board, everytime.

Go google Teartracks and * see * what comes up.

Google has given you a valid response to your search ....... your own posting!!   :)

Leah


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« Last Edit: January 09, 2008, 05:27:57 PM by LeahsRainbow »
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« Reply #50 on: January 09, 2008, 05:20:52 PM »
As you all know, I had my alcoholism thrown in my face. The truth is, I don't feel bad one bit about it. I saw a problem in myself and I fixed it. I also am not rserved about posting about my life, because I did not cause myself that pain. Anyone who is insensitive enough to use your pain against you is obviously suffering from many problems still. Of course, if it makes you feel safer to keep personal items from the public, you should do so.
Thank you all for accepting me as I am.
Love, Beth

Dear Beth and Leah,

I can relate! I have grown to feel that  I've got to be prepared to face the consequences of posting private details about my life in public. If I'm not ready to have that information used to harm me, I'm not ready to post it any more.

When I was much younger, I'd post everything!!! I was never hurt by forum members, (maybe annoyed sometimes though, lol) but the information is on public record. Many years later- like 5, I think, an N I was dating got up in the middle of the night, and logged into all the forums I was  a member of. He read my entire history of pain, struggle, and heart ache, and he twisted it all around in the most negative light imaginable, and (to paraphrase) told me that I deserved all the pain because I was so worthless. It was like handling all my triggers over to an an N, and he used that information to hurt and control me. It scared me, experiencing it. I'm a more private person now, although I feel safe here. Its odd.

X Bella






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« Reply #51 on: January 09, 2008, 05:22:41 PM »


I see what you mean Leah, but how and why does that happen?  I really would rather not be googleabally.

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« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2008, 05:31:22 PM »
Dear TT

I know what you mean, and how you feel about it.  As I was shocked when I first realized this, but, then reason gave me peace.

That's why we choose a 'nickname' and don't give our real name, as an identity on the board, or any board.

The 'nickname' is vital for any d v victim or survivor posting on any support board.

We will always be googable, but only as our 'nickname' 

Love, Leah

PS >  That said, as a d v survivor, I am always wary and concerned of writing too much very personal 'identifiable' information.
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« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2008, 05:42:56 PM »
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Dear Beth and Leah,

I can relate! I have grown to feel that  I've got to be prepared to face the consequences of posting private details about my life in public. If I'm not ready to have that information used to harm me, I'm not ready to post it any more.

When I was much younger, I'd post everything!!! I was never hurt by forum members, (maybe annoyed sometimes though, lol) but the information is on public record. Many years later- like 5, I think, an N I was dating got up in the middle of the night, and logged into all the forums I was  a member of. He read my entire history of pain, struggle, and heart ache, and he twisted it all around in the most negative light imaginable, and (to paraphrase) told me that I deserved all the pain because I was so worthless. It was like handling all my triggers over to an an N, and he used that information to hurt and control me. It scared me, experiencing it. I'm a more private person now, although I feel safe here. Its odd.

X Bella

Dear Bella,

That must have been horrendous and devastating, it was extreme twistedness and cruelty.  That's why I pulled my childhood life story, it was never written for 'twisted' purposes.

It must have felt so scary for you, as it was an invasion of your innermost soul, thoughts and being, as a person.

That's why I recommend to everyone I come into contact with who uses support forums/boards, and/or googles, reads information, and suchlike; always clear ones history, and also, ones temporary internet files, before shutting down your computer.  And keep it to oneself as to any support forum/board that one is using as it is ones own private place (for safety purposes).

But, he got up in the middle of the night and sneakily sought out all your personal sites and read all your postings ..... that is so premeditated.

And a huge betrayal of trust too.

The games some people play are so awful, and so alien to us.

Love, Leah
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« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2008, 06:00:00 PM »
The guys who started Google are, of course, millionaires.

They have designed a program that will search down just about anything.

However, this board is not buried as Yahoo and MNS groups are. I have googled my nickname from there but it doesn't come up.

I have another board, like this, and didn't know as much about Google back in the mid-90s but was using a nickname--but the posts are song lyrics so I have © on the lyrics with my real name--- Google can find it

I have had ny name mentioned in the minutes of a meeting , and I'm not even on the Board. I do the website and bookkeeping. Google finds named embedded in documents like that.

The stranger your name, the sooner it will be found and on the first page, but if you are John smith?--- why bother?

Hope this helps you understand, tt


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« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2008, 06:08:55 PM »
wow! so maybe, just maybe, the people who accused me wayyyyyyyy back when of inviting people to the board...were WRONG?  Since google lets people find you anyway.  Go figure.

Yes, I am being sarcastic purposely, since I feel validated of my innocence even more now.

Thanks to Leah

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« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2008, 06:15:10 PM »

Yes, Laura, oh yes

You yourself know if you did invite them to the board or did not invite them to the board.

If you did not invite them to the board, and you had not told them that you were a member of this board, then that is most likely how they came to the board.

Glad you have your validation.

Love, Leah

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« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2008, 06:16:03 PM »
really Me

that would depend on if they knew your nickname and I just checked--it took until page 3 to mention you on voicelessness. Lots of other reallyme returns

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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2008, 06:29:19 PM »
Dear Izzy,

Only wish my surname was Smith !!  :)

As I have an unusual surname (not rainbow!) it always appears on the top of the 'google' list  :(

Leah

I hear you Leah. I am up front and centere along with relatives with same surname,
I can find my daughter here, but different, different name. I can find 2 siblings here --one for golf and one for police work--newspaper accounts. I can find my niece here as she is--was --until she went to Texas--the orthopedic doctor for Toronto's hockey, football and baseball teams (top ones)--I can find my son-in-law (ex) looking for info on Algonquin Indians, and the biggest was my grandson filling the whole first page in 2004.

The biggest was my grandson's adventure of near death, now in a book.

[Fatal obsessionThe waters of the North Atlantic are 8C even in August. ... KC Maple survived the sinking of the Silver, thanks to a miraculous rescue by the Icelandic ...
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The worst thing is that part of my surname is a "set" for shooting porn and comes up with a search. Surrrrreee!! We run the operation!!!!!!!


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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2008, 06:35:31 PM »
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Dear Beth and Leah,

I can relate! I have grown to feel that  I've got to be prepared to face the consequences of posting private details about my life in public. If I'm not ready to have that information used to harm me, I'm not ready to post it any more.

When I was much younger, I'd post everything!!! I was never hurt by forum members, (maybe annoyed sometimes though, lol) but the information is on public record. Many years later- like 5, I think, an N I was dating got up in the middle of the night, and logged into all the forums I was  a member of. He read my entire history of pain, struggle, and heart ache, and he twisted it all around in the most negative light imaginable, and (to paraphrase) told me that I deserved all the pain because I was so worthless. It was like handling all my triggers over to an an N, and he used that information to hurt and control me. It scared me, experiencing it. I'm a more private person now, although I feel safe here. Its odd.

X Bella

Dear Bella,

That must have been horrendous and devastating, it was extreme twistedness and cruelty.  That's why I pulled my childhood life story, it was never written for 'twisted' purposes.

It must have felt so scary for you, as it was an invasion of your innermost soul, thoughts and being, as a person.

That's why I recommend to everyone I come into contact with who uses support forums/boards, and/or googles, reads information, and suchlike; always clear ones history, and also, ones temporary internet files, before shutting down your computer.  And keep it to oneself as to any support forum/board that one is using as it is ones own private place (for safety purposes).

But, he got up in the middle of the night and sneakily sought out all your personal sites and read all your postings ..... that is so premeditated.

And a huge betrayal of trust too.

The games some people play are so awful, and so alien to us.

Love, Leah


It really is alien, Leah!! Thats a good description. I probably was very naive, but I always assumed that the purpose of intimacy was  deeper love. Maybe i thought i was lovable too, and that anyone really knowing me would appreciate me more deeply. N's only want intimacy for greater control.

Yep, I can totally understand why you felt the need to pull your child-hood story. You have more guts than me, because I was never even able to post mine. Also, I couldn't muster the energy to dig it all up again.

I like you idea of clearing history and being careful with passwords. My browser stores mine, and thats how that guy logged into my forums back then.

X bella