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Rape of the Heart
« on: February 14, 2008, 05:39:30 PM »
Just found article. It is helpful in reaffirming N saint. Last night I was given another blow. I have now officially been ousted by N saint from my ministry. Of course the pain is really about FOO stuff and how unvalued I was by my mom.

All I have to say is thank heavens I am not out to win, let her have what she wants, I just want her to leave me alone.


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Statistics tell us that approximately 1 out of 20 people we interact with have, on some level that is destructive, sociopath tendencies. I’m sure you’ve heard that serial killers are sociopaths, and that is true to the extreme. Naturally, there are different levels of dysfunction, just as there are different levels of, say, depression.

The predators I speak of are “Sociopath-Lite,” for lack of a better term. These people have a seared conscience and they view other people as objects to manipulate to get what they want. Most of them are narcissists, and will use you to fulfill what is called, “narcissistic supply.”

Narcissistic Supply is the term for what these people are addicted to. It is not alcohol or drugs, or even sex per se. They need your adoration, admiration, attention and time and the appetite for this supply is insatiable as they are basically emotional black holes, sucking your love and energy into themselves to try to satisfy the emptiness inside their souls. They truly are the walking dead. This emptiness is so profound and permanent that they are rarely helped by any kind of therapy, because they are so used to acting rather than actually being who they really are. They refuse to lower their guard and let others know their real personalities.

This emotional deformity is usually the result of profound abuse, emotional trauma or neglect from a primary caretaker, even as early as infancy. They learned early on to mimic the kind of person the caretakers seemed to want in order to survive. In the process, they discard and despise their true selves and manufacture a false self that they present to the world.

Sad? Yes, absolutely. However, these folks are usually so full of rage that they quickly learn how to channel and use the anger in a meaningful way; the ability to expertly manipulate and ultimately emotionally injure others which makes them feel superior and powerful. This way, they feel they’re in control and cannot be hurt again. They turn into an abuser. A narcissist with sociopaths tendencies is a very dangerous person indeed; the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. They are constantly on the prowl for new sources of “supply” and can sense a potential victim almost immediately, even the first time they meet the individual.

Let’s pause for a moment to examine the perfect victim of these monsters. Most people grow up in relatively normal homes where love, affection and truth were modeled. These future victims were taught to be courteous, trusting and compassionate and in the normal course of their lives, have personally encountered nothing untoward that would change their view of the world and the strangers they meet. They’ve heard of evil people on the news and have seen them depicted in movies but have never actually crossed paths with one. In other words, they’re sitting ducks.

These victims are not stupid or thickheaded. They should be able to basically trust in the goodness of others. They practice the golden rule and simply assume others do the same. They are naïve but once they encounter and comprehend the evil that truly exists “out there”, their lives are forever altered and their innocence shattered.

When the narcissist/sociopath targets a victim, they immediately begin to idealize and over-value this new source of “supply.” They are gifted actors, having presented their false self for so many years, and are able to expertly simulate emotions as they “bond” with the victim. They are attracted, curious, and deeply interested in the source and begin a process of courting or grooming the victim. They are incredibly charming and present themselves to be a deep, passionate person capable of loving or of being hurt. They appear to be empathetic and caring but all of these signs are the sheep’s clothing of the narcissist.

Naturally, the victim falls head over heels in love with the mirage or false self the narcissist projects and they completely buy into the lies they are told.

The narcissist’s seemingly genuine immersion and exaggerated high regard for the source is extremely alluring to the victim. It makes them feel safe, loved and admired. The narcissist showers them with attention and they are so convincing they’re all but impossible to resist when they are on the hunt for a source of supply.

However, and this is what you must understand, once the victim is completely hooked and emotionally enmeshed, the narcissist begins to deplete them of their “supply” like a vampire drinks the blood of his victim. This begins to manifest itself by the narcissist toying and playing head games with the source.

They’ll deny saying certain things the victim knows they said; they woo seductively and then turn cold and angry causing the source to come running to apologize for some supposed transgression.


Of course, to be idealized one minute and totally devalued the next is utterly incomprehensible to the victim. Normal people do not treat others this way. It is a mind bending experience that leaves the victim questioning their self worth, judgment and sanity not to mention having to grapple with the extreme grief of suddenly losing what seemed to be a perfect relationship. There is a term for what a narcissist/sociopath does to his victims. It is called emotional rape. It is the systematic and deliberate abuse of a person’s higher emotions without their consent. The victim fully trusts the alluring false self that is presented to them and is made to feel emotions and bonding for the express purpose of being used and discarded. When they give the narcissist the privilege of looking into their soul they never dreamed that intimacy would be abused.

The narcissist feels no true emotions. They are incapable. The “love” they feel for the source disappears immediately when the victim’s usefulness runs its course or when a seemingly better qualified source of supply is noticed. They are able to go their merry way without the encumbrance of guilt or remorse.

Being a tender human being, the victim usually grieves and misses the relationship for quite some time. The loss is devastating and they can get very depressed, blame themselves, obsess about contacting the narcissist, feel like they’re going crazy, and experience many other emotional manifestations that physical rape victims endure. The emotional roller coaster is so horrific that some victims even display symptoms of post traumatic stress syndrome.

It’s shocking and disgusting how many narcissists automatically gravitate towards positions of power, i.e., the military, pastors, counselors, Bible teachers, CEO’s, school teachers, physicians, etc. Once they spot a potential source, they misuse their authority to attract and control the victim. Again, the internet is the perfect place for these creatures to troll for sources of supply. They expertly navigate chat rooms, looking for vulnerable, lonely women. They set up websites that offer advice or counseling for every kind of loss. They present themselves as warm, caring and compassionate and appear to be extremely attractive.

The narcissist/sociopath exploits and then completely rejects his victims. The most bizarre aspect of this “person” is there little to no malice involved. He views people as things to be used. The same way we feel neither hate nor love for a garden hose, he feels the same about other people. Absolutely nothing.

Beware!


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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 06:09:15 PM »

All I have to say is thank heavens I am not out to win, let her have what she wants, I just want her to leave me alone.


Amen, dear (((((((((((Lise))))))))))))...  and she has not won a thing, because the battle belongs to the Lord.

Ministry is all about service... which is why N can never perform - - - because she's always too busy serving herself.

I know it's so hard to think of this as a light and momentary struggle... I'm still praying.

Love,
Carolyn

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 06:27:51 PM »
Thank you .Lise,. That had so much good information. It was very clear and easy to understand. I saw it in  new light.            Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 07:01:30 PM »
the battle belongs to the Lord.



Wow, I could contemplate that thought for a while.

Thanks.

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 07:08:45 PM »
Lise, you're welcome.  I have been intensely angry about these things myself, but that goes absolutely nowhere. Anger is not a defense... it's a symptom, I believe. So from now on, please remind me if I forget - - to search the Scriptures for my own responses and not to search my opinions... lol
 ((((((Lise)))))))
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From Proverbs chapter 21

27 God loathes the sacrifice of an evil person, especially when it is brought with ulterior motives. 

28   A false witness will be cut off, but an attentive witness will be allowed to speak. 

29   The wicked put up a bold front, but the upright proceed with care. 

30   Human plans, no matter how wise or well advised, cannot stand against the Lord.
 
31   The horses are prepared for battle, but the victory belongs to the Lord.




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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 07:58:51 PM »
Ann told me some very interesting things. She told me that if I judge s/one(even if they "deserve" it), I put a  spiritual law in to place , where I get back "destructive " things. It is like "What you sow ,you reap"
  She said that I had to ask forgiveness that I judged my M(even though my M "deserved" it according to what is right and wrong,in my eyes).
  I can see what Ann says. We, as humans ,were not supposed to judge. Only God is. We can,of course, avoid people etc, but judgement is not ours to mete out and so we hurt ourselves by doing it.
  I hope this provides some help. It did to me. It really helped release me from my M . I don't feel as attached as I did ,before.
                                                        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2008, 08:07:20 PM »
Ann told me some very interesting things. She told me that if I judge s/one(even if they "deserve" it), I put a  spiritual law in to place , where I get back "destructive " things. It is like "What you sow ,you reap"
  She said that I had to ask forgiveness that I judged my M(even though my M "deserved" it according to what is right and wrong,in my eyes).
  I can see what Ann says. We, as humans ,were not supposed to judge. Only God is. We can,of course, avoid people etc, but judgement is not ours to mete out and so we hurt ourselves by doing it.
  I hope this provides some help. It did to me. It really helped release me from my M . I don't feel as attached as I did ,before.
                                                        Ami

Ami,

I resonate with accord.  As I understand; I am to forgive, and forget, in forgiving I release the person from being bound.

And also, in forgiving, I also release myself too, from otherwise, bondage and bitterness.  I let it go, to God, through Christ His Son.

In doing this, in letting go, I am then offering up the person, to God, who is the one who can reach someone's heart.

Hence, I can move on.   In liberty and freedom, of heart and soul.

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2008, 08:08:03 PM »
Ann told me some very interesting things. She told me that if I judge s/one(even if they "deserve" it), I put a  spiritual law in to place , where I get back "destructive " things. It is like "What you sow ,you reap"
  She said that I had to ask forgiveness that I judged my M(even though my M "deserved" it according to what is right and wrong,in my eyes).
  I can see what Ann says. We, as humans ,were not supposed to judge. Only God is. We can,of course, avoid people etc, but judgement is not ours to mete out and so we hurt ourselves by doing it.
  I hope this provides some help. It did to me. It really helped release me from my M . I don't feel as attached as I did ,before.
                                                        Ami

Ami,

My pastor teaches this, too, and it's one of those teachings which has always stuck in my throat, a bit, but as it sinks into my pea-brain through repeated exercise and practice (the wrong way  :?) I am really coming to believe it. Thank you for the reminder.

Carolyn

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2008, 08:49:09 PM »
Ann told me some very interesting things. She told me that if I judge s/one(even if they "deserve" it), I put a  spiritual law in to place , where I get back "destructive " things. It is like "What you sow ,you reap"
  She said that I had to ask forgiveness that I judged my M(even though my M "deserved" it according to what is right and wrong,in my eyes).
  I can see what Ann says. We, as humans ,were not supposed to judge. Only God is. We can,of course, avoid people etc, but judgement is not ours to mete out and so we hurt ourselves by doing it.
  I hope this provides some help. It did to me. It really helped release me from my M . I don't feel as attached as I did ,before.
                                                        Ami


Hi Ami,

Absolutely, yes! This morning while driving to work and praying I heard myself saying what you sow you will reap. Last night I was experiencing all the deep old anger at my mom and the old hurt that my little inner child had been carrying around, I cried so many tears. :cry:

But as far as N saint, there is no judgement other than discerning her behavior as wrong and hurtful which we need to do in order to absorb the reality of the situation. But there is a sort of detached noncondeming approach I have been taking with N saint. (just read most of my posts where I mention blessing her and praying for her good). I have only been talking about the intense pain more than making nasty judgements.

It is a fine line between judging and condemning.

Scott Peck actually talks about it in People of the Lie...on how if we judge others as evil, then we are evil for judging.

But then he goes onto argue that we have to discern what is wrong and right, that is the kind of judgement, I am trying to make here...where was I at fault? Am I the crazy one?  What hurt and what was wrong-- etc., does that make sense?


Thank you -- Peace!
Lise

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2008, 09:27:02 PM »
Yes, Lise. You have to "judge" your side of the street,but IF you did anything wrong, bring it to God and ask for forgiveness. So, your part is to see your role in it. Ask God to reveal your part  in the problem.
 We can have a part  ,even in abuse(as adults) Our part could be allowing abuse or not trusting our intuition about the person. You told me that you had a bad feeling about this lady,right from the beginning.
  Your part may have been not listening to your "gut"(still, small voice).We are NOT to condemn ourselves for our part, just to learn and then bring it to God.Ann told me to leave it there,once I brought it. That is hard,too.
 With Ann, I learned many lessons when she "hurt" me. I learned that it would not kill me, for one.I learned that people would help me, when I could not help myself .
  That lesson could apply to you, in this case,Lise. Even if she turns people against you, you are strong enough to go on. it won't kill you.
   That is how I see it, anyway.              Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2008, 09:35:46 PM »
Dear Carolyn, Lise and Leah,
  It is such a relief to me  NOT to judge. Ann helped me so much when she taught me this. I feel released from pain and free.
  I like being a "small person" and God being a "big ""person", so to speak.
    Scott's death humbled me a great deal. My own child committed suicide. How much more can you go "down" than that?
  I am going through an internal revolution.
   With s/thing like this, you either change or you give up. It would be easy to be broken,but I want to go forward.
   I am so glad that Ann's teachings were helpful to you. That makes me very happy. Ann is coming again,soon, so I should have more wisdom to share. I should have an Ann's corner(lol).                    Love, Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2008, 09:39:17 PM »

Dear Ami,

What you said is true;  God sent Ann to you, as His humble vessel.

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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2008, 10:35:40 PM »
Ami,

I have sensed that relief in some areas, but there are other places where I still get strong internal promptings to judge, judge, judge.

In those cases, it's hard for me to tell what's underlying the urge to judge... but I think it's some odd mixture of pride and fear.

In my head, I know that I'm no better than anyone on the planet, but apparently my heart still has some icy spots - along with some terrified spots -

and lately I'm recognizing that the fear is the old one of being made a fool of... being taken advantage of... which is a totally ridiculous thing after everything I've lost already,

and yet it hangs on, like a dinosaur which should have gone extinct in the last milennium.


Anyhow, because of a combination of all the above, I have been unable to address you regarding the death of your son...

but I am deeply sorry for your loss, Ami.

And I know what you mean about being a small person and letting God be the big Person.

I've found so much relief in that truth, over time... and yet I still resist it on occasion... "kicking against the pricks", so to speak.

Sorry, KJV is what sticks in my head.

And I think an Ann's corner is a great idea... lol.

God bless and continue to keep you, Ami.

Carolyn


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Re: Rape of the Heart
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2008, 10:39:59 PM »
Dear Carolyn,
 I don't really understand about "why" you could not address the death of my son.I guess I can't really understand what you are saying. My brain is not all there, either. Were you judging me? I noticed that you did not address it and was curious. I would be interested in understanding your thinking,if you care to share.If not, that is fine, also.
                                                    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

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« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2008, 10:46:05 PM »
Dear Carolyn,
 I don't really understand about "why" you could not address the death of my son.I guess I can't really understand what you are saying. My brain is not all there, either. Were you judging me? I noticed that you did not address it and was curious. I would be interested in understanding your thinking,if you care to share.If not, that is fine, also.
                                                    Ami

Yes, Ami, I feel that I must have been judging you, but I'm not even completely sure why... and so I can't really explain further.

I have this thing where I cannot say something unless I really believe it and feel it...  and so when my feelings blank out, I cannot cover that up with words just to fill in the blanks. I just can't. It's a sort of speechlessness which I cannot even explain. I'm sorry that's the best explanation I have at this point.

Carolyn