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Ami

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N Spots
« on: February 18, 2008, 05:53:52 PM »
I am trying to go inside and accept myself ,after being told for a life time that I was 'defective--bleh. So,I feel to embarrassed to talk about my own N spots,and probably are in denial about some,but would anyone be  willing  and talk about N spots(gulp).        Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 07:59:56 PM »
I'm willing to try, Ami, if you want to. Where would you like to start?

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 08:01:58 PM »
YOU are brave. I am too chicken to start(lol),Carolyn.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 08:28:44 PM »
lol... okay, Ami, well...

there are outlooks I fall into, at times, about people - like my husband, especially - and in those outlooks, I recognize my mother, so to me, those are N spots.  That's what I started to mention earlier, in one of your other posts, because it's something I run into nearly every day. My mother is such a control freak, and I had all of that pounded into my head for so many years, that it's almost impossible for me to function without flashing back on it regularly. Most of it runs through my head and I never express it - and I don't even do it with my kids - but then they are more organized than my husband... lol.

Anyhow, I don't think this is probably what you wanted to talk about, but to me, my urge to control my husband is very N'ish, even though I usually fight it back and don't act it out. Because he is so very different from me personality-wise, I do tend to often think that I know better re: how something should be handled, etc. And I hope you're satisfied... LOL.

Yer turn  :D  (only kidding)

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 08:32:59 PM »
Ami,
I work every day on removing my N spots. Like sunblue, a huge one I had since moving here was accepting a job I felt 'inferior.' I now feel part of the whole and grateful I have a job in a nice school.
I can often find myself feeling I am moreintelligent than others, and need to remind myself that people have different areas they are more proficient than me in.
If a person, man or woman, likes me, I often feel there is a defect in that person.
Ami, there are so many more.
Let me keep thinking.
Truly, this is something I work on constantly.
Love, Beth
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 09:10:41 PM »
Carolyn and Beth,
  You are great. I am still percolating(lol)  .       Ami
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 09:47:09 PM »
Hi again, Ami...  bubble away... however long it takes  :)

I just posted something to the thread about "Non Sam V Info" which might help cue us in to some areas.

If you want to read that...  it's helped me to identify some areas, for instance - my mother is an expert at playing the martyr, and I've had my moments, as well... but because she was always so controlling and dismissing of those around her, I more often threw myself into the role of "Rescuer", I think. It's interesting to see that there are many ways for N spots to manifest and they are not all so immediately obnoxious.
Just throwing some other thoughts out there as they come for me. Thank you for the invitation to discuss!

Carolyn

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 10:11:13 PM »
I think I am so much smarter than my mom and so enlightened.  I judge her as ridiculous and self centered.  I try to control her but it does not world-but I try.  I think I am destined for greatness-maybe that is why I get so frustrated when my greatness does not happen and I have to accept the status quo.
Kelly

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 11:57:58 PM »


Ami,

Tonight I was reminded that we are to love others as we love ourselves.  It hit me like a ton of bricks.  I thought of some of the ways I have or do 'love'  :shock: others and thought, Is that the way you love yourself?  Big reality check.

Love,

tt

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2008, 07:52:00 AM »
Thank you Carolyn, Kelly ,Beth and TT,
  I am finding it very hard to look at myself and harder ,still, to admit it. I appreciate your honesty.Still percolating.       Love    Ami
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2008, 09:32:26 AM »
Okay, Ami...

This is only my opinion, but I think that your efforts to do this would be more comfortable, and safer for you, with less chance for misunderstanding, in dealing with this face to face with your counselor. And even in prayer... you know, there's the prayer of the psalmist - search my heart, o Lord, and reveal any unclean thing in me...
just know that when you pray that, look out - because it's sure to be answered.

Carolyn

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2008, 11:01:35 AM »
Dear Carolyn,
  I appreciate your words. I can,barely ,"look" at myself, sometimes, let alone share(lol)     
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2008, 12:13:28 PM »
Hi Ami,

If you'd like to share just one Nspot, then I will share one.

I think reciprocity is healthier, and it's a good way to know you're not alone.

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Re: N Spots
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2008, 12:37:52 PM »
Well, I tried to ask this question before ,but I still feel unsettled about it. Maybe it IS an N spot or maybe s/thing else ,or maybe nothing.
  Anyway, what troubles me is that sometimes I can be "taken" out of a situation that is happening ,right before my eyes ,and I go in to "observer" mode, with no emotions. I am almost in a place where everything is clinical(no emotions) and I observe what is happening ,as if I am an "alien" with no feeling of human emotion, just devoid of them . It is like I am looking at an animal ,in the zoo, with clinical eyes,but no feelings. I don't know what that is.
  I was describing it to Ann. On the last day of Scott's life, he was sitting on my bed. We were talking about nothing things and then he started talking about his thinking(i.e. he would not be worth anything if he were not a doctor ,like his father, etc). I entered in to that mode and was just looking at him that way. I told Ann about it b/c I don't know what it was and it "bothered ' me. I wondered if there was  s/thing "wrong" with me.
  She said that I was having what the Bible calls a "Spirit of Discernment" when you
flip" in to a different level and can see things with a" different eye. "
 So, maybe that is what it is. Maybe ,it is an N spot.I don't know, but it is my 'true confession" for today(lol)
                    Love   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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Re: N Spots
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2008, 01:37:35 PM »
Hi Ami,
Perhaps your empathy turns off at times, or is on flicker instead of reliable. That would seem like a natural consequence of having a severly N-istic parent, I think. Even though many children of Ns have kind spirits most of the time, I think the connectedness, the flow that normally happens between people who love each other, keeps shorting out.

Perhaps yours turned off because you didn't feel like coping with his pain? Maybe his pain short-circuited you, since you have buried so much pain yourself, that if anybody gets near triggering it, your emotional system shuts down? Even if it is an Nspot, I assume that people develop them out of a perverted (not by the person out of "badness", but by what their experience in life has caused in them) instinct of self-preservation.

One of my Nspots is entitlement. I loathe it but there are times when I catch myself being "special"...surely those rules don't apply to me, or surely my wanting my mother's house is right (because I want it), etc. Surely I'm entitled to not be unhappy in a job because I'm so smart, etc. Uggh.

I have found, though, genuinely experienced, that the more I am in touch with compassion for myself, the less my Nspots act up. And that's a deep comfort. I am growing all the time. I actually like myself much much better than I used to. Not swelled-head liking; I just feel like my own friend at last.

Hope that makes sense, and I hope it's helped you to talk about these things.

(Another one of mine is being a voice hog. I'm doing way better with that one too. But it was a struggle for years. Now, more often than not, I really do only want my own turn...not everybody's!)   :shock:

gently,
Hops
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