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Lupita

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2008, 05:26:27 PM »
Dandy, what do you do for a living? Do you know anything about education? I have four very abusive students and I dont know what to do with them, they have crossed the line, and it is only four out of 190 students, but four too much, they ruin everything I do and they really disrespect me and my supervisor does not support me at all.
I know, I have to look for another job, I will, that has to be during the summer, impossible now.
I have to survive the rest of the year. It seems like they know I do not have back up. They know I am afraid to lose my job. In other words they know I dont know what to do. Passivity, very related to your post.

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2008, 07:31:52 PM »
Lupita,
Hi! I run the web site for a well-known author. I basically have been someone's left arm [on edit: or is it right-arm? Whatever!] (personal assistant-type) all my life. Along the way I've learned all about business, negotiation, contracts, etc.

I don't know a lot about the teacher/student relationship from your end of it. I've been a student!

I would guess it remains the same with any incident that pops up - any disrespect or insubordination needs to be addressed on the spot. For me, like with my son at home, I let it be known I have a zero tolerance policy for certain things. I am more flexible on others. When he knows the rules, there are no arguments. I have not had a whine or argument from my son in....I can't remember the last time. But, he IS unusually bright(!) (said with a wink).

It's so much easier to say than to do, Lupita. I know that. To be in your shoes, would be terrifying for me. I know how intimidating some kids can be. Certainty is the key. And having a plan. If the kid does this (swear, be 3 min. or more late for class, etc.) then X is the consequence (detention, a trip to the principal's office where paperwork will be put in the file, etc.). Try and make the consequence fit the crime as fairly as possible. If you let one thing slide, everyone will notice and then there will not be that respect that's needed to motivate them to obey you.

My grandmother was a brilliant teacher. She always had her kids rapt with attention. I don't know how she did it, but she had a presence. She always asked thoughtful questions.

I hope this helps a tiny bit.

Hugs,

Dandylife
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 04:14:42 PM by dandylife »
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Lupita

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2008, 07:37:46 PM »
Thank you. Yes, right on the spot. The problem is that I paralize and it takes a few minutes to me to realize that I was disrespected.
It took me 24 hours to realize that seating on the overhead would reflect my ass on the board.
So, now I know he was terribly disrespectful, but after the next day I cant write him up. So the in the spot, screws me up.

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2008, 07:40:49 PM »
Lupita,

Well, you can't help it if something slid by! But in-the-moment capture I think is important when it's possible. And don't be afraid to say something like, "What you've done deserves punishment. I will take some time to think of an appropriate one and let you know."

(Strike some fear in their heart!)

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2008, 08:11:53 PM »
Lupita,
education at what level?

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2008, 08:14:53 PM »
high school.

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Re: Passivity: Giving Your Power Away
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2008, 08:16:36 PM »
May I ask how long you've been teaching highschool?