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Re: Rage and Anger
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 12:10:45 PM »
Wow, there's so many responses!  Thanks everybody, I don't know if I can respond to everybody but its all very insightful.

Gaining Strength, thanks for the compliments.  Honestly, thats the only thing that teacher ever did to me wrong and she didn't have a habit of being unfair to me.  In fact, I was probably the teachers pet.  I can't think of anybody in my past who wasted my time or lied about it, other than my ex girlfriend... who was a bonified psychopath.  I'm sure there is a connection to something... perhaps its the powerlessness that others have mentioned. 

Teartracks, you are hitting a nail =)  I do believe I might have some Nrage issues, and deep narcissitic wounds.  I'll read the article as soon as I'm caught up responding.  If I remember, I have one to share to that helped in the past and I should revisit it. 

Juno, I never thought of society as having an area wide dysfunction, but it makes complete sense to me.  My ex girlfriend was toxic and over the years it made me toxic too.  It made me realize my parents were toxic, and probably their parents, and the complex dynamics of relationships just keep these people passing it on all over the place.  I never thought about it in from the perspective of a community, but that makes a lot of sense.  I sometimes think I was meant for a small tribe like native americans or some such.    It seems less damage would have been done when other people around can tack up the slack for others. 

Overcomer, yes, the pizza incident was very unfair for her to do.  Overall though, this particular teacher was good to me.  I have some black and white thinking going on... in every other respect I was probably spoiled. 

Towrite, I already mentioned it, but it does seem like powerlessness.  I have other issues going on that I didn't mention, but those feelings of having no power are really tough on me.  These last years I've been working on taking some of the power back and removing stressors from  my life.  I'm sure there are things I'm not taking responsibility for.  Are there things I can do to add to my comfort?  I don't know.  Thats where I get weird.  I'm melencholic and have a very hard time enjoying things, which doesn't give me an opportunity to relax.  I think they would help if I could let go of some of the feelings that keep me distracted.

Gaining Strength, I did feel singled out.  I remember every Friday was pizza day, and there was this one kid who always bought a second slice of pizza on that day and I was always jealous.  There were always kids who traded and ended up with two pieces.  I had asked my mother that morning if I could have money to buy a second piece and she gave me the money and said I could.  The teacher overrode my mother.  Its just weird that I'd still think about it today.  There was much more abuse and humiliation that occurred in my life that never seems to come to mind.  Whats up with that?  If something so simple is lingering around, what happened to my thoughts and feelings associated with those other events?

Juno, thats some unfair treatment in that story.  Kids sure can be cruel.  I wish there were things society could do to protect children, seeing as some of us or so sensitive and devastated by things like that.   

Gratitude28, I sent her another rude (but informative) email after her phonecall and email, but she responded with a "whatever... drop it... dang."  She doesn't seem to recognize her role in the conflict.  I think I'll let it go for now.  Perhaps my attitude with her recently will make her think twice to give me more helpful info in the future.  The president of my company is kinda odd in that he likes to stay out of my conflicts with other people... if anybody should have been complaining to the president it was me.  Luckily, this girl is in sales, and is only in the office a couple of hours a week... and I'm the head of my department.  She has dropped it for now though, so if it occurs again I'll think harder about an appropriate response.  Its hard to do that when I get so angry.   

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Re: Rage and Anger
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 12:52:59 PM »
If something so simple is lingering around, what happened to my thoughts and feelings associated with those other events?

They get buried and hidden or they happen pre-linguistically or as a child they were misinterpreted and as an adult the correct interpretation does not allow for a connection (i.e. the memory doesn't seem shaming with an adult understanding so the connection is lost).  This is one of the things that makes healing so very difficult.  It is hard to get to all those wounding instances, hard to remember them hard to trace our pain back.

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2008, 12:59:03 PM »
(((((((((((((((((Darren))))))))))))))

Yes, then as long as you are covered and protected, try to avoid her and not let her "get your goat." Maybe you could figure out why she bothers you so much? Did you mention she reminded you of your wife (in her trickery?) Maybe if you can get to the root of why she bothers you, it will defuse the annoyance.
Love, Beth
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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 02:05:19 PM »
Just thinking of you, today, Darren. I hope you keep sharing .            Love and  Hugs     Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2008, 10:09:06 AM »
Gaining strength, I suppose I am seeing childhood events through the eyes of an adult now.  I can see why its hard to deal with these hurtful events when you keep telling yourself as an adult they shouldn't matter any longer.  Healing isn't an easy task at all, so I feel for all the people here doing it and going through these kinds of things.

Gratitude28, I wasn't married to my ex, she was just an ex-girlfriend.  We lived together for about six years, so it was as though we were, but gosh... that wife word sounds scary!  I took a trip around the office Friday to socialize a bit which I rarely do, and I ranted a tiny bit about the frustration she caused me.  It didn't take any convincing at all, it seems everybody around the office has been affected by this coworker girl at some point in time.  They had plenty of stories of their own to tell.  Maybe one of my problems is that I have a hard time accepting that their are bad apples out there that make things difficult for people, I just want to make excuses for them. 

Ami, thanks again {{{{Ami}}}}.  I have gigabytes of things I'll eventually share.

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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2008, 10:15:28 AM »
Dear Darren,
 That is funny. "That wife word sounds scary".
  I will be waiting for the gigabytes. I have them, too, and am starting on them,as you can see--lol.        Love and Hugs ,   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2008, 10:32:17 AM »
Dear Darren,
 That is funny. "That wife word sounds scary".
  I will be waiting for the gigabytes. I have them, too, and am starting on them,as you can see--lol.        Love and Hugs ,   Ami

=)  Being married to my ex-girlfriend are the things nightmares are made of. 

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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2008, 11:17:05 AM »
Was it bad right away, Darren?                   Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2008, 03:58:42 PM »
Was it bad right away, Darren?                   Ami

Was it bad right away with my ex-girlfriend?  Yes, almost instantly she started treating me in the most awful ways.  She had a way of being covert about it, and hiding her reasons for doing it, so I didn't catch on right away.  She started cheating on me right off the bat, but even thats not the scary part.  I could understand that somebody might fall for somebody else and make a mistake, and be too afraid or ashamed to come clean.  But thats not what happened.  This particular girl actually enjoyed the damage that such behavior caused people.  She made is a point that both me and the other guy found out about each other in the most akward way, but inviting both of us to the same places so she could sit back and enjoy the chaos she was creating.  I think I realize now that her intention wasn't really to hurt me at all, but to use me to hurt this other guy.  Its something she did to me in the end also.  But yah, she actually liked to torture guys psychologically.  This is the part where most people ask me, "Why on earth did you stay with her?"  Several times throughout the relationship she would make me think she was cheating on her when she wasn't, and turn around and tell her friends I was controlling and untrusting for no good reason.  People just don't believe that there can be people out there who are completely void of empathy. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2008, 06:32:13 PM »
Wow Darren,
 I can see how you had a very bad experience . Not all women are like that,but it could  sour you on them ,I could see that(lol).
 As you heal, you will probably be more aware of signs which would signal s/one like she.    Love   Ami
                                                                                                                   
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2008, 07:09:47 PM »
Wow Darren,
 I can see how you had a very bad experience . Not all women are like that,but it could  sour you on them ,I could see that(lol).
 As you heal, you will probably be more aware of signs which would signal s/one like she.    Love   Ami
                                                                                                                   

Yah, it did sour me a bit and I'm less forgiving for minor slights... such as lying or deception.  I have learned to recognize the signs and keep those people out of my life.  When I broke it off with my ex girlfriend, I also broke up my relationship with drugs, and all my friends who were bad influences and didn't treat me well.  I don't have many people in my life now at all, but one decent person does more that several unhealthy people.  My new girlfriend has nothing disordered about her at all... lots of sensitivity and empathy.  Girls are definitely not all that bad =)

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2008, 07:33:20 PM »
Dear Darren
 That is good that you have a nice g/f. You learned from your pain and did not repeat. That is really positive.      Love    Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung