Do Ns Cry?????

[James]

Gjazz/ Gratitude....Herman Goering of the infamous Third Reich cried when he saw animals mistreated but he gassed millions of people......James

[gjazz]

james---oh yes.  And I'd like to add that to this day my NF has only Austrian dogs, and is wont to say (please, I cringe, I really cringe), "Hitler was right."  This does differ from how I grew up. As a child my father mistreated animals in front of me because he knew how devastating it was, and that made it good for control.  I remember each instance with such sadness and fury.

But now, I have five formerly abandoned cats and various other "volunteers" who come here for comfort, health care, and peace.  Raccoons, an opossum, every spring, blue jay and robin fledglings that must be saved from the cats, so we sit shifts outside, gathering them up.  We do for them what nobody did for us.  I worry that some N victims turn their fury on the animals who get the attention they didn't,  but for me, NONE of us got any, we were in it together, and I'm grateful to be able to "talk to the animals" today.  Because you know what?  they really do talk!

[debkor]

gjazz,

My dog always talks.  I have four dogs and 5 cats.  I had one dog first then adopted two more one drags his legs but he gets everywhere and one that came to stay for a month and will probably stay forever.  I have your beagle Hops, her name is Stella Jo and she is a mush.  Oh and a turtle with 3 legs that my son found on the side of the road.  A bear that is always tearing up my garbage and a skunk that hangs out with the cats.

My exh had a dog who he loved and the dog was as much as an N as he was. I swear.  He had major emotions for his dog but tried to throw my dog out a window.   My dog was fine and we all moved out and lived happy. 

Love
Deb

[Hopalong]

Beth, I think it's just that for all the depressing obviousness of Ntraits, all Ns are still inidividuals, and the capacity to grieve is on a curve with them, just as it is with nonN people. Your mother is probably pretty far blunted...?

Gjazz, I love your Dr. Doolittle stories. Bless you and your critter friends.

Deb, I am so not surprised that your home is an animal haven. Please hug Stella Jo for me! (Great beagle name...)

xo
Hops

[axa]

XN was a master at turning on the tears what was interesting though was that as soon as he got his way they were shut of instantly, it was an incredible talent.  Needless to say they were another tool in his supply kit.

axa

[sunblue]

Do Ns cry?  Yes they do....but the cause of their tears always centers around them----their "perceived" hurt by someone; lack of attention for them; their perception that they were "wronged".  Their tears are never about anyone else---they never cry because of someone else's pain or injustice; they never cry because of a sadness or loss of a relationship (because they care only for themselves)...

My Nmom cries only very, very rarely...When she does it is always about her...and always about getting everyone to pay her even more attention.  The one time I really remember my Nmom crying is one Christmas when my Nsis refused to abide by the new "holiday rules" which were required when she disowned my brother and family because they didn't select her as godmother.  That Christmas, it was my Nsister's turn to visit my parents on Christmas Eve while my brother and I got them on Christmas Day.  But, as usual, my Nsis refused to go along and did not show up at Christmas at all.  My Nmom refused to spend the holiday with my brother and I and instead spent the entire day on the couch crying---all because my Nsis chose to "punish" her because she didn't get her way....

On occasion, my Nmom will shed a tear or two over a heartfelt tv show or movie...but it is rare and she always find a way to use the story line to focus on her.....If I had to generalize, I would say my Nmom's tears only comes when she doesn't get what she wants---especially when her "chosen" child, my Nsis, is causing trouble or is hurt in some way.  She would never shed a tear over me, my brother or my dad or anyone else for that matter...

Just another sign that Ns are truly selfish and incapable of "feeling" like normal people would...

[gjazz]

I love all the Dr. Doolittle stories too, and have never turned an animal away, but now things have gone too far.  I have a small pond with goldfish, and a huge blue heron has taken to having hors d'oeuvres here every cocktail hour. My many rescue cats find this fabulous entertainment and refuse to intervene, though I can't really blame them, as the heron is three times their size.  This has nothing to do with Ns, but it's fun to talk about other things sometimes!

[gratitude28]

Hops,
Thank you so much for reminding me that I am looking for an answer where there isn't one. My quest sometimes is like Arthur's in The Hitchhiker's Guide... he found out the answer to the Universe is 42. Si I can pidgeonhole and try to find comparisons, but it won't change what IS. And I need to learn to live with what is. That is the point in being here. I really tend to forget that - especially when I get to feeliing I need to be right...

Axa, sunblue, I can see that being a powerful tool for an N. My NM doesn't use it because it doesn't affect me, I think. I tend to ignore her when she starts being childish, so she sticks to trying to find some way to comment on what she thinks will bother me - my body, work...

gjazz,
Your heron is a bad girl and needs to find some other fish. lol. I was afriad I would be feeding the deer this year since I planted bulbs, but Henry has peed on all of them, and I think that keeps the hungry deer away.