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Portia:
Now I’m wondering. So instead of sitting here wondering, I’ll ask the questions that are bugging me, slightly. On page one:
Discounted Girl said:
--- Quote ---I don't think anyone has hacked into Dr. G's PM construction so much as the same PM to mulitiple persons creates a temptation to the game player. Don't PM everyone the same. Change it up a little. That would be your evidence. It is sometimes kind of fun to play "who done it," doncha think?
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And Phoenix said, in reply I think:
--- Quote ---I know what you are refering to. That was back then. Since then, my pm's are few and far between and singular. Phoenix
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A long time ago, I sent out a huge PM to several registered users. It was ages ago. I thought I was in such a mess and didn’t think I could post on the board. I wonder are either of you thinking about that PM of mine? :?:
I sort of doubt it. I only did it the once, I think. And it was the same PM to everyone. I didn’t change it for different users. Hmmm. So, probably not me. But still, I wonder. Curious. I’d like to know.
And I also wonder because I sent you, Discounted Girl, a PM yesterday. After that I came to this thread and thought hey, I shoulda posted it on the board. I shouldn’t be sending any PMs right now, not if folks are getting fired up about them. So now I wonder if you’ve taken my PM as something other than I intended? :?: So I better say so. And I better say it right here. I’m tempted to post the PM here! But then, I think as you now have that PM, that’s your prerogative, not mine. That’s weird….why should it be your prerogative…I guess it’s like a letter. :idea: If I mail you a letter, once it reaches your hands, you’re the owner. You have the responsibility of what to do, or not do, with it. Yeah, that makes sense.
Now I wonder should I send that PM that I asked a member for advice about? No way, not now, I’m paranoid about PMs now. No more PMs for the moment.
What buttons of mine are being pushed here? Secrets I guess. Being talked about. Being on the outside. Not knowing what’s going on. Feeling left out. Feeling deliberately kept in the dark. Feeling like everyone knows expect me. Yep, that’s all my sh*t. So best to get it out. Chunk. Straight on the board.
Was it Somebody who said elsewhere about ‘Don’t panic’? I use that. I also use, to myself, ‘get a grip’ and ‘grow up’. They only work sometimes.
Hey CG. I recently told D on PM what wapos meant. :!: Just so you know. But as you haven’t spelt it out here (why not?) I won’t tell anyone else! Hey, how old am I right now…age about ….er…this high?
P/Steph
bunny:
My view on PMs. They are fine. I have sent and received very few but there was nothing wrong with doing it. If anyone gossips in a PM, who cares. I don't care if people are totally trashing me in their PMs to each other. Knock yourselves out. I don't see PMs as any problem. I also am skeptical about any hacking but if Phoenix is apprehensive about it, that's her prerogative. I don't think calling people paranoid is respectful at all. It's an extreme label of pathology and I think unnecessary and inappropriate.
my 2 cents,
bunny
Discounted Girl:
Yo sweet little Portia ... no way, I was not thinking about you at all when I said that. I didn't even remember your multiple recipient pm. Let me tell you that (since I have been away from the board I am not very familiar with many of the new members) I totally trust you and Phoenix (wonder where Seeker went). And, I might as well say it, I think Phoenix is pretty much accurate in her observations. She knows what she said and to whom, etc., and if she thinks some board poster is messin' with her, I believe her. I have always thought there are far fewer "people" than the number of posters. You can sometimes tell who is the same poster by their spelling and personality of writing, grammar and even punctuation. I have seen some posts replying to another that I was sure was the same person arguing with themself. I don't give a flyin' rip, it's just that it reduces that person's credibility and creates suspicion. I do however think it's kinda sleezy when I see a kind poster come to their aid, rendering support and comfort, when it's all a big game. It's like they are taking advantage of the kindness of the person offering support and encouragement, and I wonder if they are sitting in a dark room somewhere snickering at their innocence. At those times I have looked at the words and thought "you are a bit of a dirty dog to play so unfairly." But, bottom line, can cyber sticks and stones hurt you after what we have been through in the flesh and blood? I don't think so.
To PM or not PM, ah, that is the question. You are straining the quality of your mercy again my dear :P
You said you worry about being left out, deliberately kept in the dark, out of the loop so to speak. That's ok, what's wrong with having those feelings? I sometimes feel like I am ignored on this board -- I see trivial remarks receiving replies, and mine (sometimes trivial, but mostly not) roll over to another page and on without an acknowledgement. Sometimes I wonder if my "submit" key works. :roll:
I still say that some of those who appear to have "left" are still very much here and active. But that's ok isn't it? After all the crap I tolerated from that nasty old NQueen, a little cyber deceit is mild by comparison.
I am really curious as to what WAPOS means. Please someone tell me. I know what SNAFU stands for.
I feel I should say: Everybody loves SOMEBODY sometimes.
Somebody:
Oh Discounted Girl you are surely a girl after my own heart!!
I am not sure whether to take your words as truth, false, kind, not, joking or real serious ("everybody loves Somebody sometime") but I will try really, really hard to remember not to discount what you have to say in future and you gave me a good giggle today during my afternoon coffee break. For that, I thank you very sincerely.
What an awful feeling that must be, to feel so discounted, or, maybe it's just your perception of what is being counted or not, I can't say because I sure don't know who counts what or when. I want you to believe that I count you, because you are a good person who is just as countable as any, but I know I have no way of ensuring that you will believe this and especially, that you will believe it about yourself and if there is a way, I don't know what it is.
I do know that Phoenix is wrong about me being a hacker or an instigator of trouble or anything nasty or that I am anybody else other than me. Whoever is doing all this multiple-personality-posting is probably needing some needs met that I have no idea what to do about but I can see one thing pretty clearly, the behaviour is indeed creating chaos.
Why let this go on? Take each poster as an individual and let the mpper's get their jollies whatever way they must. Who give two nickles anyhow?
I sure don't.
There seem to be doogooders and villians and coocoos and sensibles all mixing in here and making this place seem like a real place, and to some, a scary place.
But it's not. It's cyberspace and there are no ground rules and no way of enforcing any that we may like to see implemented.
Why get so worked up about such stupidness and get all in a frenzie for the shear entertainment of some nutbar??
My vote is: Please forgive me for anything I've done that is disrespectful or that you have perceived to be disrespectful to you Phoenix and let's just get on with healing.
Shall we??
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: bunny ---. I don't think calling people paranoid is respectful at all. It's an extreme label of pathology and I think unnecessary and inappropriate.
my 2 cents,
bunny
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Hi bunny, :D
I was just wondering, were talking about me and my messages to Pheonix here in your comment.
I've gone back and checked to see if I called her paranoid, and I couldn't find that I did. However I did say 'seems' very often, that her xxxx 'seems' like paranoia. There is a huge difference between saying what someone is doing seems like paranoia and saying someone is paranoid.
One is labelling the person, the other is labelling the behaviour.
From all of my therapy and counselling and reading, this type of communication, addressing the behaviour, with both adults and even with children is perfectly acceptable and responsible and respectful and considerate.
But nevertheless, if it was me you were you referring to, would you mind pointing out exactly where you saw I called her a paranoid person. As I said, I can't find it, and if I did, I'll apologise to her. It was definitely not what I meant or wanted to say at all. Thankyou.
CG
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