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Anonymous:
I joined Narcissisticabuse@yahoo.com a time ago. After a short time had past, I very much arrived at the conclussion that it was a bit of a 'shop front' for dear old Sam Vaknin and in particular, his book! I should actually have use the Doctor part of his title, but that again would be missleading, so I won't!

Anyway having joined, every day I'd receive 2 or 3 e-mails from Sam/narcissisticabuse.com pointing out some more information about Narcissism and Narcissists. All very good stuff and very real to my situation. I found them all very useful and enlightning! So much so, now nearly everyone around was a Narcissist!!! My friends, family, ex wife, collegues, children, girlfriends...etc, were all Narcissists!! Jezzz I was being over-run by them....they were everywhere!!! Why? Cos Sam said so!!

Vertually every conversation I was having with people, I'd privately and in the background be assessing whether they were one or not! But as time went on, I started to have difficulties with Sam. You see, according to statistics, only around 2 percent of the population are thought to suffer with NPD. But with Sam Vaknin, bloody nearly everyone had it!! Every little thing a person did could be described as Narcissistic and NPD according to him!! Every day I receive more mails drawing my attention to something and then the answer could invariably be found within the scriptures of his book......if only I'd buy it!!

But that became the very reason why I wouldn't buy the damn thing! Not because he is totally wrong in his conclussions, but because he has soooooooo many of them! His head must be full of the same stuff that Mccarthy had back in th fifties! Under every bed was a red commi bastard, but there wasn't! Same goes for Sam, but there isn't loads of Narcissists with NPD, there's only a few percent!

So I got to thinking; Sam's a pretty shrewd cookie! A self confessed Narcissist with NPD........who's making a pile of money out of telling people he is one!! Very Narcissistic I know, but never the less so! This guy is making shed loads of cash convincing people that their lives are plagued with Narcissists! Every one we know from our families to our friends, are NPDers who are sh.tting all over us! Or are they?

Could it be that sites such as narcissisticabuse.com and Sam have a deal going? Could it be that poor helpless victims of abuse in search of answers are being duped into believing things that aren't so? Could it be that he is using his well tried and tested helping hand to people who are in distress in order to make money out of their plights? Surely not! He's a Doctor for christ sake, isn't he? Sam would never do a thing like that.....take advantage of other people's problems when they're down? No, never!

Not for one moment am I suggesting the same for this site! I've never once been contacted by John or anyone else in connection with books or money! But there should be laws against people being exploited when they are most vunerable! Looking for explanations on the net for things that have gone wrong in our relationships is one fast way of making a buck............for some!

I fear that too many people are being ripped off right now by people who pretend to have answers to problems that they don't really have!! We experience bad relationships and not so pleasant people during the course of our lives. It doesn't mean that these people suffer with NPD! According to Sam, if you so much as shake a persons hand to firmly, they're Narcissists with NPD! He does so, because it is in his financial interests to do so, not yours!

I left the aforementioned site when I began to question the merits of what the owners of it were attempting to do! Actually I was silenced and everything I wrote was removed for bring the question up! Very Narcissistic......and from people claiming to be helping people suffering from such exposure!

Onyx:
The above was me, I forgot to log in  :lol:

Onyx

Portia:
Well I'm feeling glad I found this site first guest! Sounds like a worrying experience you've had. You're unlikely to find anything similar here, I haven't met many fans of Sam's here.

Out of curiosity, who is John? Do you mean Richard as in Grossman? But I'd love to know who John is. Sorry my curiosity is a disgrace!

Have you searched for N books on Amazon? I did and was pretty amazed to find that Sam virtually appears with his recommended reading on every search. I wrote to Amazon and complained. They said they weren't responsible for reader recommendations. Ah well, I tried! P

Portia:
ah it was you Onyx/David! So who is John?? Now I'm really curious! :D P

Onyx:
In haste I posted and now repent :D ! You're right, I got it wrong, it was Richard that I was referring to and not some John geezer! :oops:

Onyx AKA David

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