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polymath

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What is schema and cognitive behavioral therapy?
« on: August 26, 2009, 07:16:02 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with these therapies? I've seen some websites that claim to have success with narcissism and other personality problems. Do they succeed in going into a person's mind and changing the tapes that play in the background. My subconcious and conscious minds are in a huge battle right now and I'm just real afraid that the sub. is winning.

Looking for hope,

RS

Hopalong

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Re: What is schema and cognitive behavioral therapy?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2009, 08:35:11 AM »
Hi RS,
I don't have a personality disorder diagnosis but can tell you CBT has helped me enormously over the years.

There is something that can go deeply into the subconscious mind (the good part, the life force, the creative lifechanging part) that has also helped me, literally saved my life.

Clinical hypnosis. A trained psychologist who was also a certified hypnotherapist. We used it in sessions as a supplement to the CBT. I used it to stop smoking, then began to do it again for some behavioral patterns (including ways of thinking) I needed to change. It's power is that you can use your SUBconscious mind to change your BEHAVIOR. And repeated behavior change, changes your mind, the way you think.

You can even do it yourself. A small book (long out of print, but available used from Amazon) called The Wisdom of Your Subconscious Mind, by John K. Williams, shows you how.

Here's some hope. Grab it. (Amazon has one used copy where they're doing the fulfillment, so you'd have it in days. About $9.) Order it through Doc G's link up above!

Hops
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Ami

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Re: What is schema and cognitive behavioral therapy?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 08:51:51 AM »
You know, CB, I have been doing that on my own. That is my "self therapy" now---Is it true?
When you have an NM, THEIR schema pervades yours. My M had a huge , heavy spider web of distortions that hung on me pervading every cell.
 Now, I have healed enough to question these distortions. When I am out with people I will ask myself,"Am *I* the only BAD one in the group ?"
 I can see that this is silly.
 I try to do this with everything and I am getting  better.
 You explained it very well and I think I will get the book!             Ami
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.        Eleanor Roosevelt

Most of our problems come from losing contact with our instincts,with the age old wisdom stored within us.
   Carl Jung

Lollie

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Re: What is schema and cognitive behavioral therapy?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 09:58:48 AM »
polymath,

You can find some good explanations/information about different types of therapy here:

http://psychcentral.com/psychotherapy/

Hope this helps.
L.

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HeartofPilgrimage

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Re: What is schema and cognitive behavioral therapy?
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 05:51:29 PM »
Cognitive-behavioral therapy is a theoretical therapeutic school in which the main focus are your behaviors and your conscious thoughts that you can report. It differs from psychodynamic therapy in that you are the expert on your own thoughts, and the therapist works with what you can report (as opposed to interpreting dreams, etc.). As it has evolved, CBT has increasingly involved emotional regulation. Dialectical behavior therapy, a "third wave" type of CBT (with behaviorism being the first wave, cognitive-behaviorism being the second wave) that was designed to help people with personality disorders regulate their emotions (and by extension, their cognitions and behaviors). DBT was originally tested on borderline personality disorder, and it has been extended usefully to other problems as well.

Schema therapy is a type of cognitive-behavioral therapy. Schemas are basically complex templates that we get from our past experiences that we use to understand our current situations, to predict what is going to happen next in any given situation, and to guide our behaviors. People with personality disorders typically have unbalanced schemas that lead to distorted expectations of what is going to happen next, very rigid predictions about others and the future, and sets of behaviors that interfere with relationships and good life functioning. In fact, the whole idea of a personality disorder is when a person's schemas are distorted and don't work well to guide the person through their life, and therefore they get stuck in rigid patterns of behavior rather than being able to flexibly adapt to situations. It's another way of looking at the idea of a "self-fulfilling prophecy." People expect certain things out of life, and inadvertently behave so as to get those things. Those things can be rejection, lack of understanding from others, failure, etc. Schema therapy works to help balance out those schemas and to test new kinds of behaving. New kinds of behaving can lead to new insights about what works and what doesn't, which hopefully leads to more flexible behavior and then to new kinds of thinking and ultimately to new and better feelings.

As psychology and the process of psychotherapy grows and evolves, though, the different approaches increasingly borrow from one another. Not all types of therapy are the same, just like not all therapists are the same, but as the discipline matures, the different ways of doing therapy are crossing over. So, even though CBT started out only dealing with what can be observed or reported, it is increasingly evolving new ways of getting to those hard-to-reach areas of human experience.

Hope this helps.