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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 09:42:54 AM »
Can I say - in a non-N way! - that I am really jealous of you guys who have babies. It's not just about having someone to love so much who is part of you; I just wish I was brave enough to have a baby but I have always been scared that N will continue with me - I have an NGM AND and NM...pretty scary.
Maybe this is another lightbulb moment???

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 10:14:32 AM »
P, I think having a baby really focuses you and clears a lot of that N baggage out of the way.  You just don't have the same time and energy available to keep putting up with cr*p behaviour from other people.  I also found that I had to cut a lot of difficult people out of my life because I feel you have to lead by example and I didn't want my son growing up thinking these people were role models.  So whilst it is/can be scary, in another way it's incredibly liberating.  I also think just being aware of your own behaviour and the difficulties you've experienced with other people's means that you can knock any N tendancies on the head before they get problematic.  I often hear myself thinking or saying something my mum would say and it is scary.  But it does at least alert me to another area of myself to work on.  And unlike my mum, if I do or say something I later regret I will apologise to the person involved.  We all get it wrong sometimes but I think being able to accept that and move on from it is part of being human.

It's really not that scary!  Once you find your rhythm life gets really nice and for me I've been able to give my son the childhood I never got which has helped me to heal in certain ways.  I play with him as much as I can, read to him, we make stuff and just spend time together.  My mum never did that with me so I'm getting to do all the stuff I missed out on as a child with my boy now.  The day I had him was a bit of a blur, what with the messy business of giving birth and then loads of visitors through the day.  But I woke up early the next morning, took him in my arms and sat looking down at him and I can't ever put into words that thunderbolt that hit me right there and then.  I'd never felt love like it; on the one hand it's really tender because you have this tiny little thing in your arms that's just so sweet and cute looking, but on the other there's something almost savage about it because I knew at that minute I'd kill for my boy without even thinking about it.  That protective streak is really strong, and I think sometimes stronger in people who were abused themselves as children?  I know it goes the other way and you get parents that don't care because they were abused and that's how they cope, but in others I think there's this really strong urge to protect your child in a way that you were never protected.

Having him was the best thing I ever did and I would always say to anyone thinking about having a child to go for it - if you're determined to be a good parent then you can overcome anything that's a problem along the way.  There have been some really painful times but since I had my boy my mum's power over me just got less and less and less until she didn't matter at all.  He's definitely changed me for the better and made me a much stronger and healthier person.  I say go for it!! xx


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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2009, 11:20:05 AM »
We have all had such betrayal and yet we seem to be so much better M's than ours. Somehow, we can still feel and I don't know when we can when we were treated  so badly.
 I am always amazed at the compassion and kindness from D's of N's when they themselves were treated with no feeling.
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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 11:57:06 AM »
We have all had such betrayal and yet we seem to be so much better M's than ours. Somehow, we can still feel and I don't know when we can when we were treated  so badly.
 I am always amazed at the compassion and kindness from D's of N's when they themselves were treated with no feeling.
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Amen Ami! Hugs to all of us moms giving love, kindness and support for our children. So glad that we didn't go the other way!

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 03:12:16 PM »
 I never had a TRUE light bulb moment. Took me over forty years to even REALIZE there was something wrong with my mother and my relationship. But, as usual, I thought it was MY fault. Started going to therapy in 2005 for depression relating to my cancer diagnosis. After that improvrd, I started talking to my T about other issues, including my M. He told me he thought she was an N. I was shocked, initially, but, with my T explaining things, it was like putting the pieces of a puzzle together.

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 08:03:40 PM »
Mostly, this board - lots of those moments - thank goodness.

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 10:11:40 PM »
Thanks, Ami, getnbtr, and Portia!  I'm so glad the Board has been useful!

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 10:53:24 PM »
Persephone,

I think that being a mother was, for me, a crash course in NOT being an N.  When my 3rd child was small, I was in over my head.  My husband was never home, so I was alone alot.  And I would melt down regularly--crying or yelling--generally acting like a selfish, selfabsorbed child myself.  I remember the lightbulb moment I had about that!  I kinda parented myself in a no-nonsense-this-behavior-will-no-longer-be-tolerated sort of way.  And I set out from that point to quit being so selfish.  I really think I had the option of staying stuck there.

I acknowledged that I had not been parented well and that I was pretty wounded and needed to not pass that on to my kids.  I struggled with touch--a bad thing with kids.  They need touch so badly.  So, I really committed myself to breastfeeding and to wearing my babies in slings and sleeping with them.  It helped a lot.  I also made myself simplify my life since I melt down easily when I feel overwhelmed.  And I read lots and lots and created my own role models for parenting.

I dont think its easy for us when we were parented so badly.  To have no real co-parent, on top of that, is very difficult.  But I have grown children now who are very grateful for their growing up years.  I heard that two of my adult kids talked to each other this week about their perceptions of growing up.  Their shared opinion was that there were places in their lives where they didnt get what they needed.  They admit that that hurts and that they will have to work on those wounds.  They also agreed that I did the best I could with the circumstances I was handed.  I dont know if you can ask for more than that. 

I wanted to create a perfect childhood for my kids--probably to experience it vicariously for myself--and learned in the process that there is no such thing.  But I was able to give them so much of myself because I struggled my way through my own wounds.  Its still a struggle.  I wish I could hit a place where it wasnt.

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2009, 12:10:49 PM »
Saved my mental health Dr G. Would anyone off-board really believe that? Does it matter? I think not! :D

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2009, 02:20:23 PM »
" I never had a TRUE light bulb moment. Took me over forty years to even REALIZE there was something wrong with my mother and my relationship. But, as usual, I thought it was MY fault. "

Me too, Judy!!!!!   When I learned M was N, it was so disorienting.  I questioned everything in my life because I felt I had lived with blinders on.   Hope you're doing & feeling better.

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2009, 10:42:55 AM »
My first lightbulb about Nmom was when I had a bf (or THOUGHT I had a bf, in fact I had a fantasy romance with an incredibly, incredibly charming maN) -- an anthropologist -- who kept talking about how his mother was a narcissist. I got curious (part of my obsession with understanding HIM), went online, found the big guru whose intitials are s and v... and whammo. Life had an explanation.

After that, it was more like a chandelier with a dimmer switch (and all the bulbs on different timers). One began to glow, then another, now and then one would burst from glow to glare, and now the whole damn thang is so bright it could light the White House.

And that's good.

I can still walk through the room and trip on shadows, though. I've installed bumper pads.

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Re: To whom or what do you attribute your "light-bulb" moment?
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2009, 04:11:02 PM »
My lightbulb moment was when I noticed the words 'Self Absorbed' on the front of Children of the Self Absorbed. It was the way my H described my parents.

On the subject of having babies, it had an unpleasant effect on me. Having a child who rightly demanded so much of my time and energy, put me over the top. It was too much like my NF and mother's expectations. It brought to the surface so many negative feelings, it.....stunk.