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Nonameanymore

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Eminem
« on: June 09, 2010, 05:05:40 PM »
Hi all,

I have been like a headless chicken for almost 8 months and as things settle down now, I am back to putting the finishing touches in my memoir re my upbringing with NM and NGM.

I have a rhetoric question for you and I don't even know what spurred it: what do you think of the relationship of Eminem and his mother and wife? There are articles online claiming he is the N of the story, but what do you think?

I am sorry if I shouldn't be posting this here but I think that the answer can only come from 'between us' daughters.

Thanks so much
P   xxx

Logy

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 09:15:04 PM »
I haven't seen the articles.  What do they say?  Have never really been a fan of his but am interested in this perspective.

Nonameanymore

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 12:50:44 AM »
Hi Logy,

I was just thinking about some of his lyrics and the movie 8 mile when he said that his mother popped pills and was sharing details of her sex life with him. The articles claim that he's the N who self-indulges in moaning about how hard he had it.
If you google eminem and narcissism, you get a number of articles.

It's funny because I haven't heard any eminem song for a while but yesterday someone posted an eminem song on his facebook profile and got me thinking...

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 04:14:49 AM »
My impression always was that he had a very abusive upbringing, with a mother who blatantly favoured another child and neglected him as well as the other details Persephone mentions. Who knows how true it is? But the anguish in his songs about his family always seemed authentic to me.

Is it narcissistic to express the pain you've experienced? Or just cathartic?

Nonameanymore

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 04:38:37 AM »
That was my impression too nightsong. The reason I am asking is very narcissistic (!!!). What eminem does with his lyrics, is in a way I will do with my book - you know what I mean, I am not comparing myself to eminem, I just mention that I have put my frustrations down on paper.
But I have been reading some reviews about his work saying that he is a self-indulgent narcissistic artist who inflicts his frustrations upon us with his lyrics...
And I was just thinking: is this what people will say about my memoir?


JustKathy

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 05:34:23 PM »
The media is WAY too quick to label a celebrity a narcissist, when they usually don't even know what the word means. I really like Eminen, and relate to his lyrics, so I have to think that his mother was an N, not the other way around. He also appears to be a very loving father to his little girl, and I think that says a lot about his character. More than any song, I relate to "Cleanin' Out My Closet." Those words came from a victim of an N, no doubt in my mind. When I hear this, there are SO many things that apply to my own NM. Only someone who has been there could write something like this.

Now I would never diss my own mama just to get recognition, take a second to listen who you
think this record is dissin', but put yourself in my position, just try to envision witnessin'
your Mama poppin' prescription pills in the kitchen, bitchin' that someone's always goin'
through her purse and sh*ts missin'
, going through public housing systems, victim of
Munchausen's syndrome, my whole life I was made to believe I was sick when I wasn't 'til I grew
up, now I blew up, it makes you sick to ya' stomach, doesn't it, wasn't it the reason you made
that CD for me, ma, so you could try to justify the way you treated me
, ma, but guess what, your
gettin' older now and it's cold when your lonely, and Nathan's growing up so quick, he's gonna
know that your phoney, and Hailie's getting so big now, you should see her, she's beautiful, but
you'll never see her, she won't even be at your funeral, see what hurts me the most is you won't
admit you was wrong
, b!tch, do your song, keep tellin' yourself that you was a mom, but how dare
you try to take what you didn't help me to get, you selfish b!tch, I hope you f*ckin' burn in
hell for this sh*t, remember when Ronnie died and you said you wished it was me, well guess
what, I am dead, dead to you as can be...

Ales2

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Re: Eminem
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 06:17:13 PM »
This is an interesting thread. I don't know much about Eminem, although I knew he had a rough upbringing. I recently tried to explain what a Narcissistic mother is and offered Nancy Reagan as an example of what my Mother was like (if you can overlook her first lady status). Like Mrs. Reagan, my NM married a successful man (my lovely Dad)  who became prominent chief of medicine at his hospital and was well regarded socially. I was a debutante and went to private schools, played tennis and was socially well connected, but felt isolated from all that.  I relate alot to what Patti Davis has said about her mother and its sad to me in a way that she spent a lot of her life being miserable - she really deserved a better life. I also am disgusted by how the media portrays Patti as a disrespectful, ungrateful, wild child. She's more of a wounded soul, albeit a strong one.  I think she is a much more evolved human being than her mother ever was, yet Mrs. Reagan gets all the respect and praise. It makes me ill.