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Twoapenny

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Re: my daughter has been coopted by sociopath ex clan:please help me
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2010, 03:37:55 AM »
Oh, Sea. 

I don't have anything much to add to the things others have already said but just wanted to say how sorry I am to read this.  It is so unfair that your daughter has been turned this way.  As I've gone through counselling over the years, I've often said I felt like I'd been brainwashed - locked in somewhere with invisible bonds, without even knowing it.  It sounds like something similar has happened to your daughter.

If it's any help at all, you have made me feel that I have done the right thing in keeping my son away from his father.  He came from an incredibly abusive family and was himself very controlling and unreasonable.  We broke up very early on and after a number of problems I told him he could only have supervised access to my son via a court arrangement.  He refused to play ball and never saw my son since.  I have often wondered if I did the wrong thing and if it would have been better to try and work with him to make things happen.  Reading your story sent a shiver down my spine and made me glad I did what I did.  My son isn't that aware that his dad doesn't see him.  He asks questions every now and again but I feel like he views him a bit like Father Christmas - he's around but you don't actually have him in your life regularly.

You sound as if you are handling a very difficult situation as best you can.  I really hope that your daughter wakes up to what is really going on sooner or later and extends a hand to you.  Thinking of you (and you as well, Hops - your situation sounds so difficult to manage too).

Lots of love xxxxx

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Re: my daughter has been coopted by sociopath ex clan:please help me
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2010, 10:50:21 PM »
Thanks for your thoughts and condolences, Twp a Penny.

I was very ignorant and idealistic to think that my daughter had to have a father. She would not have gone to private school which helped  her become the brilliant academic she is but all the denial about who he is isn't healthy.

I have agonized and tried to look at what is going on beyond me getting thrown out of the house. My daughter's marriage is in big trouble. Her husband is abusive. She says to just ignore him but this is not possible. She is embarrassed by his loutish behaviour and my seeing him do creepy things must make this awareness more acute.  For instance, she was breast feeding her one month old infant daughter. My daughter was trying to discreetly change breasts. The baby has been fussy and so she was getting ready to put her on the other breast. There was mild dripping from her nipple.  Her husband said," Give her to me. She's my baby too. He grabbed the baby and held the baby up to make her laugh (??????) This baby can barely focus her eyes, let alone laugh. He was playing pretty rough with the baby. Then he said to the baby," Those are my breasts baby. You can have them for another month or two and then they are mine again."  My daughter told him to shut up and he was very put out.  I told her it was ok because I did not want to cause trouble.

This really sickened me.  I did not show it. I realize that the last thing my daughter wants right now is to break up her family. I hate to leave her in this situation. She is able to subdue him from what I have seen in the past but I think this guy is a big baby himself and appears to lack the maturity to share the mother of his child.

I have calmed down now and realize that this is not all about me. I am best kept out of my daughter's home because she knows I would not find it acceptable. I tried but it is not good. I have been a battered woman and I am aware of bullies who don't take responsibility  for their own behaviour.  I was naive to think that now I had another member added to my family when she married her husband. I think he knew that we would not see eye to eye before I did.
My job as a parent is still the same and it is not at this time a nice reciprocal relationship. I don't support abuse in a relationship and I am unlikely to just sit there and smile if my daughter is being humiliated. A lot of my life was spent around fishermen who can be rough but they always treated a new mother with huge respect. They understood that a baby must have its needs met and the rest of us behave like adults.

I think I need more information on supporting a daughter who is in abusive relationship. She is in denial right now and desperately wants her little family to thrive. Anything that threatens that must go.
Before I wanted an apology from him for yelling at me and demanding that I leave, go to a hotel etc.  Now I don't care about that. I see that he is so far from understanding what he did and so into thinking that I MADE HIM ANGRY that there is no point.

Blame gets passed from my ex, to me, to Bryn, to my daughter. I don't want to blame anyone. I want to understand, be clear, and honest. Stepping into my daughter's family was enough to push her husband over the edge. I kind of think he lives close to the edge most of the time.

So what does a mom do when she believes her daughter is married to an abuser. He has an acquired brain injury from having Spinal Meningitis as a baby.  This has been labelled ADHD but he probably has that too. He is succeeding in isolating her.


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Re: my daughter has been coopted by sociopath ex clan:please help me
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2010, 06:06:21 AM »
Seastorm:

I'm trying to think..... what could my mother have done for me in my abusive relationship?

Given me unemotional, honest, on target feedback, and kept me grounded. (You don't want to attack her husband, she'll just get defensive.) 

On the other hand, defending him yourself gives her room to look at him critically, IMO.

It would have been nice if my mother had asked about what I was doing for myself, and supported outside activities and relationships.

Certainly, the new baby will have your daughter out and about with other mommies, playdating, researching schools, and joining a church?

Support her.  Give her your ear and shoulder. 

Take care of yourself and show her how it's done.

((()))  You sound really good. 

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Re: my daughter has been coopted by sociopath ex clan:please help me
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2010, 04:50:22 PM »
Thanks Lighter:

Wise words. It seems I have to detach with love. This is so hard. Sometimes I sound ok but a lot of the time I feel like a beaten dog. Just hopeless. I will not give up on my daughter but I can't do anything except be there.

I am being scapegoated and anyone who knows about this please write in.

Sea