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phoenix

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Dreams - the second generation or third?
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2004, 06:35:08 PM »
Flower,

 Are you familiar with Thomas Moore? I would recommend him to anyone  who enjoys  mythylogical and philosophical exploration of the meaning of our human lives.

I came across this little tidbit that relates to my daffodil dream. To refresh, in the dream I am riding in my car, there is no one at the wheel, and I am facing backwards (I am looking over the past, my interpretation-I am also Barbara Striesand. Rememer her song "Memories"? lol). I am concerned about how the car is staying on the road. But the car is staying on the road by itself. I am riding around the rim of a volcano. There are storm clouds in the distance. As I turn around to see where I am going, I reach up and pluck a stalk of daffodil out of the air, where it has magically appeared tumbling out of the blue. I have a sense of fate, of crossing paths at some soul appointed time. The daffodil is not quite in full bloom yet.:
 

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When he is born, Narcissus is given this prophecy by Tiresias, "He will live to a ripe old age provided he never comes to know himself." Moore tells us that this is a strange prophecy because "it indicates that the story is about knowing oneself as well as loving oneself and that self-knowledge will lead to death." Clearly we are in the realm of mystery, he adds.

We next meet Narcissus when he is sixteen and so lovely that many young people are attracted to him. He is filled with a "hard pride", however, so no one can get to him. Echo, a nymph, falls in love with him, but she has this problem of her own: she can only repeat what someone has just said. But Narcissus rejects Echo and she loses her body and becomes a mere voice. She has stumbled into Narcissus before he attained self-knowledge.

[page 58] He represents an image of narcissism that has not yet found its mystery. Here we see the symptom: a self-absorption and containment that allows no connections of the heart. It is hard as a rock and repels all approaches of love. Obsessive, but not genuine, self-love leaves no room for intimacy with another. . . . In other words, the narcissist's display of self-love is in itself a sign that he can't find a way adequately to love himself.

Then comes the familiar part, he goes to a still pool and sees this beautiful person in the pool's reflection and falls in love with the form he sees.

[page 59, 60] Ovid describes Narcissus as fascinated by this visage that looks as though it were carved from marble, especially the ivory neck. (Notice the imagery of hardness, a key quality in narcissism.) Like the young people who desired him before, Narcissus feels a great yearning to possess this form. He reaches into the water, but he can't get hold of it. ………….

…………….The story in Ovid ends with a colorful detail. His companions look for his body but cannot find it. In its place they find a flower with a yellow center and white petals. Here we see the hard, rigid marble narcissism transformed into the soft, flexible textures of a daffodil, the narcissus. A Renaissance magus would probably suggest that in moment of narcissism we should place some fresh daffodils around the house, to remind us of the mystery we're in. The story begins with rigid self-containment and ends with the flowering of a personality. Care of the soul requires us to see the myth in the symptom, to know that there is a flower waiting to break through the hard surface of narcissism. Knowing the mythology, we are able to embrace the symptom, glimpsing something of the mysterious rule by which a disease of the psyche can be its own cure.


To read more on Thomas Moore: http://www.doyletics.com/arj/caresoul.htm

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Dreams - the second generation or third?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2004, 01:06:57 AM »
This is a Dream Dictionary -- thought y'all might find it interesting:

http://astrocenter.astrology.msn.com/msn/DreamDictionary.aspx?GT1=5809

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2004, 09:14:36 AM »
Thanks DG I added that to my Dream Folder.

Here is another site as well: http://www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/h2.htm

Here is what it had to say about Houses:

House

To see a house in your dream, represents your own soul and self. Specific rooms in the house indicate a specific aspect of your psyche. In general, the attic represents your intellect, the basement represents the unconscious, etc. If the house is empty, then it indicates feelings of insecurity.  If the house is shifting, then it suggests that you are going through some personal changes and changing your belief system.

To dream that you are cleaning your house, signifies your need to clear out your thoughts and getting rid of old ways. You are seeking self-improvement.

If you live with others in your waking life, but dream that you are living alone, suggests that you need to take new steps toward independence. You need to accept responsibilities and be more self-reliant.

To see an old, run-down house in your dream, represents your old beliefs, attitudes and how you used to think or feel. A situation in your current life may be bringing about those same old attitudes and feelings. Alternatively, the old house may symbolize your need to update you mode of thinking.

To see a new house in your dream, indicates that you are entering into a new phase or new area in your life.  

To dream that your house is broken into, suggests that you are feeling violated. It may refer to a particular relationship or current situation in your life. Alternatively, it indicates that some unconscious material is attempting to make itself known. There are some aspects of yourself that you have denied.

To dream of a haunted house, signifies unfinished emotional business, related to your childhood family, dead relatives, or repressed memories and feelings.

To dream that a house disappeared,  indicates that you are not feeling grounded. You feel uprooted by a particular circumstance or relationship in your life.

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