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sKePTiKal

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Books with no redeeming healing value! :)
« on: May 27, 2011, 08:20:07 AM »
I've been reading a lot again, recently. It's the only effective "tool" I have to work with, to allow my body time to rest and recover from over-work (which is sort of my compulsive way of dealing with difficult life periods). I need to have a good "story" in the book, plot that is!, character development and vivid details to capture my attention and hold it. I need to connect with or identify with at least one of the characters, some way. TV and movies simply don't engage me the same way, though movies are usually better, depending on the movie.

With my brain currently looking for new solutions to "solve" the lifelong FOO issues that have flared recently, reading also helps feeds the brain new perspectives, inputs, and even my vocabulary for talking about them; coherently. And only fiction will do - because fiction is art imitating life and the author is able to take those flights of fancy and pursue them, that most of us are too pragmatic, practical or simply afraid to pursue because of the risk involved. A lot of you are also readers, I know... so I thought I'd start a thread to talk about books/authors... but also the insights we gain from this kind of reading that can be applied to healing (which is just my predilection for using something for another purpose than it was intended).

How many here are fans of the Jean Auel "Clan of the Cave Bear" series?? I started reading these back when the first came out; I've missed a couple during my only non-reading period... and am now immersed in what is supposed to be the last one. I can relate to epic sagas.... and their mother-worship culture so reminds me of our "amazons" here.

I just finished another novel by Isabel Allende and am so reminded why she is one of my favorite authors. She is fluent in female emotional language... knows all the right nuances, emphasis, and particular cadences regardless of the setting of the novel in place or time... she distills that language down to the "universal" female/mother character. I simply enjoy reading her books for this reason. These are stories that help me appreciate the value of "just being" too. Whoever, whenever, however.

Tom Robbins - I haven't read anything of his in a while. Master of the absurd, he always makes me laugh... so when I need to laugh more, I reach for one his books. Carl Hiasson, too - though his stories have sort of a detective, mystery-thrilled farce to them and always involve the environmental theme of saving Florida from overbuilding, etc.

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Reading is how I survived, I think. From the time I could read I was described as always having my nose in a book. I have learned how to build a house - from reading. I have learned how to negotiate in business - which I applied to how I negotiate my personal boundaries with others, too. I learned about different cultures, philosophy, religion, folktales and myths, science, the earth, the great heros of the world..... and adventure. I have bemoaned the fact that there's absolutely nothing to read about women-over-a-certain age fashion and beauty (some of us grandma's aren't cut out for flour-y aprons and long hair in buns) and even proposed starting a magazine/website with another longtime artist friend. Maybe I'll suggest that to my hairdresser - he's entrepreneurial.

I think I've learned how to be "me" - and how humans beings are (good, bad, indifferent and ideally) - from fiction. And I can't forget the fairy tales... lord, how those came back & shook me up during the Twiggy part of healing!!
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2011, 10:20:17 AM »
'Another roadside attraction'
- if you find the body of Jesus, for God's sake don't let anyone know. Made sense to me.

I haven't read books that i would call female emotional (not that I noticed anyway). Unless you count Atwood or Fay Weldon. Not sure about 'female' emotions in novels. Maybe I read them but didn't recognise them. Maybe i don't distinguish between men and women that much.

What you get out of any book is what you understand and my understanding has been severely stunted. I understood 'Cat's eye' pretty well I think and that says a lot about women.

I enjoyed the poisonwood bible but the term 'epic saga' puts me off. I look for entertainment and an occasional glimpse of something interesting i hadn't thought about. I look for ideas well-presented, accessible. I've read some novels that were a real waste of my time and I wish i hadn't. I mean, I have 'Ugly' sitting there unread. I know the story, i've heard the person speak and I don't like her and I have already summed up her life in my mind. I imagine the book will be very very boring. One day I'll have a look, just to see if i was correct!

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2011, 01:52:33 PM »
I'm enjoying The 19th Wife a LOT, at the moment.

Wonderful interspersion of history of polygamy from insider perspectives, with a fascinating current mystery involving the protagonist's mother and the murder of his father.

It is ALL about women, historical and current sexism, homophobia, and all sorts of power issues.
And a page-turner.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2011, 05:12:14 PM »
I've read Margaret Atwood; I think it was Cat's Eye - I can't remember! But if I started the first chapter, and had read it... my crazy brain would tell me so. Drives hubs crazy with movies - coz he likes to watch movies he's seen many times - but most movies are "disposable" for me; I remember so much of the details it seems pointless although there are a few I want to re-watch or like to watch repeatedly. Independence Day and Twister are two I can watch over & over and still enjoy. "Inception" is the latest one I would like to watch again - illusions within illusions; dreams within dreams... it's impossible to keep it all straight the first time through.

Ann Tyler is another novelist, along the same vein as Atwood... not what I'd call "womens lit"; she's more "people lit" than that.

I wonder - how much what we read really says about us or doesn't? It might be a stretch to say that it's indicative of our inner selves or thwarted "wannabees" or anything significant at all, really. But I do think we're affected by certain books - we assimilate the book into our "set" of inner experiences maybe.

And then there were books that fit with outer personalities that we grow out of ... they were significant at that point in our lives, and later on... we're almost embarassed to admit we once thought they were important!! I'm trying to think of one in that category for me... maybe "Be Here Now".
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2011, 05:36:43 PM »





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How many here are fans of the Jean Auel "Clan of the Cave Bear" series??

I read several of the series.   Loved them!

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 06:20:44 PM »
Oryx and Crake will stay with me. A lovely solution to sexual jealousy and male competitiveness in it. And so much reality.

"dreams within dreams" reminded me of another time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR792v5h66o&feature=related
and, if you were stuck on a desert island, would you choose ten pieces of music and one book, or one piece of music and ten books? That's quite difficult I think. I can't decide. Prob the music.

The books that were 'important' to me are still important and I'm not embarrassed. I tell other people to read them. And they do, sometimes.

The copy of TGBG that I have has two handwritten inscriptions (!). They say:
"To L with love A, Sept 92" followed by
"{name I can't read}, This is a wonderful book. Enjoy it. Best wishes {name I can't read} October 1995)".

I'm slightly fascinated about the latter couple. The inscription annoys me (obvious reasons) and I wonder, did the recipient read it? Did they hate it? What happened to the relationship? Etc. If only there were other clues handwritten in the pages! Now there's an idea.........

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 09:51:06 PM »
TGBG?

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 08:38:11 AM »
TBGB = The Glass Bead Game

Hermann Hesse wrote it; it's rather a "cult classic"...
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 11:54:39 AM »
I really really enjoyed the book on tape, A DIRTY JOB.

If you're the type who can get things done, like housework, while listening to a book this is a very funny-entertaining choice, and there's the added benefit of getting something accomplished too: )

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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 07:37:00 AM »
About Jean Auel's saga...

I really, really appreciate her knowledge and inclusion in the books of the herbs and plants eaten and used medicinally. After growing medicinal herbs for a long time (and I'm in the process of transplanting many now; it's whole different climate & soil here though)... I really connect to the idea that this "knowledge" was passed from shaman to healer... all face to face... passed on verbally.

It's been years since I read any of these - and I'd forgotten why I connected with Ayla. The "cataclysm" of the earthquake where she loses her parents - and being adopted into different societies mirrors somewhat, my FOO experience. She's also able to step across gender boundaries and be an excellent hunter... and defend herself.

The other thing I really like - is that not a lot happens in these books; yes, there are some big, action scenes... but mostly it's just day to day life. I like to hear that narrative and description in my mind... see it portrayed... it's soothing somehow.

Hubs convinced me to try a refurbed Kindle; we found a really good price on them. I might be reading a whole lot more, once I get it set up... (I have to make sure my Amazon account is up to date)... I wonder how many MBs the whole clan series is?? I could see myself starting over from the first one and reading them all straight through.
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 04:10:36 PM »
I'm reading a book with no redeeming healing value and I love it so far.

This is... I don't really want to share what it is. There were things I didn't want to share with other people when I was a little kid and there are still things I don't want to share as an adult. I even have dreams about not sharing.

I guess sometimes I think if something is good it's better when I share it so it can be twice as good.....or sometimes something is good because I found it and don't have to give any part of it away to anybody else.

My little kid voice or some voice says "I don't want to share".

So there, I'm reading the best book I have read in maybe three years and I'm not telling you what it is...neener...neener...neener????

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 05:33:14 PM »
Boat  :D go for it! You don't have to share! Excellent 8)

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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2011, 06:40:08 AM »
hahahaha!

No, you don't HAVE to share, Boat...
but you gotta know that curiosity is driving me crazy wondering what book you think is that good...

but you're in charge of the secret, so I'll just have to wait -- huh?
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2011, 11:28:19 AM »
Boat, you make me snicker.

Neener, neener, neener.

This might even be a self-help affirmation!

Pronounce in mirror.

At one point, one would realize one was saying it to oneself, and perhaps the absurdity would reveal that one...perhaps...is rather tired of neenerizingTM--Hops (royalties to SPCA) oneself. It perhaps being a wee bit o' self-sabotage.

Thank you for being so funny. And delightful. Stubborn, quirky, so alive.

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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2011, 11:50:55 AM »
Scotland's animal welfare charity?

Are they the guys who wanted to re-introduce wolves? :shock: