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Narcissistic Personality Disorder may be included in DSM-5
sKePTiKal:
Purely academic question:
if there is a name for the sick person and what's wrong with them (NPD, etc)... how come we don't have an agreed upon name for the people who are so affected by them beyond "voiceless", "abused", survivors, victims, etc??
I mean, Ns are so sure there's nothing wrong with them they seldom become clients... and those of us who've been wounded and scarred, sometimes for life ... and CAN get better and want to desperately... get lumped together into a category of the "emotionally abused"... and the mainstream approach to that is, is here: take an anti-depressant or grow up & get over it - it was a long time ago...
yet, someone with attachment issues needs a different approach than someone who was sexually abused; different yet again if you were the GC or the Cinderella in the dysfunctional FOO script. Dissociation adds another layer of difficulty to the "prescription" plan of talk-treatment... and the relationship role in which one was abused matters as well. Child, lover, subordinate worker...
Even here, amongst ourselves, it's easy to see that we are different and have different needs - the holes in our cups are located in slightly different places; no one size fits all Rx is around to just pull off the shelf and hand someone. And many of us are so fragile, at least at one time or another, a therapist can't really make a mistake without threatening the whole healing relationship...
There ought to be Purple Heart medals for therapists - those who've gone into battle with their clients and risked their own peace and serenity walking through sheer hell with them, to get them to safety.
Thanks for all you do, Dr. G.
BonesMS:
--- Quote from: PhoenixRising on June 07, 2011, 08:12:46 AM ---Purely academic question:
if there is a name for the sick person and what's wrong with them (NPD, etc)... how come we don't have an agreed upon name for the people who are so affected by them beyond "voiceless", "abused", survivors, victims, etc??
I mean, Ns are so sure there's nothing wrong with them they seldom become clients... and those of us who've been wounded and scarred, sometimes for life ... and CAN get better and want to desperately... get lumped together into a category of the "emotionally abused"... and the mainstream approach to that is, is here: take an anti-depressant or grow up & get over it - it was a long time ago...
yet, someone with attachment issues needs a different approach than someone who was sexually abused; different yet again if you were the GC or the Cinderella in the dysfunctional FOO script. Dissociation adds another layer of difficulty to the "prescription" plan of talk-treatment... and the relationship role in which one was abused matters as well. Child, lover, subordinate worker...
Even here, amongst ourselves, it's easy to see that we are different and have different needs - the holes in our cups are located in slightly different places; no one size fits all Rx is around to just pull off the shelf and hand someone. And many of us are so fragile, at least at one time or another, a therapist can't really make a mistake without threatening the whole healing relationship...
There ought to be Purple Heart medals for therapists - those who've gone into battle with their clients and risked their own peace and serenity walking through sheer hell with them, to get them to safety.
Thanks for all you do, Dr. G.
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Hear, hear!!!!!!
Dr. Richard Grossman:
--- Quote from: PhoenixRising on June 07, 2011, 08:12:46 AM ---if there is a name for the sick person and what's wrong with them (NPD, etc)... how come we don't have an agreed upon name for the people who are so affected by them beyond "voiceless", "abused", survivors, victims, etc??
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I don't know, I kinda like "voiceless" :wink: !
(I hope I don't have to change the name of my web site...)
Thanks as always, PR and Bones!
Richard
BonesMS:
--- Quote from: Dr. Richard Grossman on June 07, 2011, 04:20:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: PhoenixRising on June 07, 2011, 08:12:46 AM ---if there is a name for the sick person and what's wrong with them (NPD, etc)... how come we don't have an agreed upon name for the people who are so affected by them beyond "voiceless", "abused", survivors, victims, etc??
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I don't know, I kinda like "voiceless" :wink: !
(I hope I don't have to change the name of my web site...)
Thanks as always, PR and Bones!
Richard
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You're welcome, Dr. G!
Bones
sKePTiKal:
You'll let us know when "voiceless" is considered for inclusion in the DSM, won't you? (just kidding!)
It's as good or better than anything I could think of! And it doesn't seem to have overly negative connotations of other words that are used. Even "survivor" implies a struggle - and yet many of us struggled against the wrong things; or simply accepted what we had no way of knowing was "wrong" or dysfunctional.
I just have this thing about "naming" things and definitions... that there is power in the name and that words have more power than we realize; we take words for granted too often. Just had to look up the difference between "confidence" and "competence", for instance. They seem to each be a side of a two-way mirror - reflecting onto, into, and back - each other... except, that it's possible to feel confident - but not be competent... and also be competent, without any confidence.
Interesting conundrum.
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