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Lupita

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need my friends
« on: August 02, 2011, 10:17:43 PM »
I fell in the trap again. My friend M ridiculed me in my tango dance. I have invested so much in shoes, clothing, lessons, I enjoy tango, and it is not fair that I have to stop dancing because M decided to destroy me.

I told him that he had motor problems and that was  why we were failing in our dancing. He was so offended that he started doing something while dancing that I did not see and people laugh at me. I should have known .His kids hate their mother, and he did it.

Now he wants everybody to hate me. I think I lost my job because of him. I ended up in the hospital ofr one week with a debth of 20 thousanbd dollars and I strated to think that he poisoned me.

I made the decision to not to dance with him again in the rest of my life, I will not have anything to do with him, but why did he hate me?

It was not my fault that he has motor problems and cant lead well, he did not have ti destroy me because of that. Just like my mother.

I have a new job and need to focus on keeping this job and reestablish my self in the dance environment. It would be so sad not to dance again because of him.

I would like to know what is paranoia and what is caused by my thinking

Lupita

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 10:20:51 PM »
cannot trust my perceptions, and dont know what is my mind and what is reality.

I know that M hates me and he wants to damage me. That I know for sure.

I need to get rid of my thoughts to be free.

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 12:21:17 AM »
Hi ((((((((((Lupe))))))))

I'm sleepy so can't write much, but it's good to hear you.
I'm so sorry to hear you were in the hospital. My gosh.
You really thought he was poisoning you?
Did you have a medical or emotional problem?
Were you well cared for while you were there?

You do need your job, and your joy.

I bet you'd really benefit from a mediation group.
Quiet the dancer in your head so your body can dance without worry...

love,
Hops
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Re: need my friends
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 03:44:28 AM »
Lupita,

Who suffers more than you?

You need some 'time off' from your life to get it under control--like "Stop the world, I want to get off!"  Then 'pretend' the whole world has stopped for you to think very seriously what has been happening to you; decide on a way to fix it, then hop back on and continue in better spirits and frame of mind of how you want to live, as the world keeps rolling.

M. is POISON to you, no matter whatever way you think of the word. NEVER see or talk to him again. You can continue to dance! Don't even worry about whether he hates you... that is in your mind only.... and it's because you have an obsession about M. Stop Obsessing! When the world has stopped and no one is watching you or poisoning you, make a list of the things you MUST do to get M out of your head. He is NOT in your heart...he hasn't been in a long while, but for some reason you think you care? or must care? or he must care for you? Not true!

You are poison to each other. You might or might not be paranoid, but either way he could still be out to get you!

Give him up completely--forget that he dances well--he doesn't if he is sabotaging you!!!!

I had a cute pair of white canvas shoes for summer wear. They were my favourites and I wore them only on my dressier occasions.  Well that stopped when there were no more dressy occasions, because N always took me to dusty places and I stopped wearing them to preserve them, and finally threw them out, well after I left him. They were of no more use to me as dressy shoes, as they were dirty and wouldn't come clean. My feet had 'spread' a bit anyway and they no longer fit.

Does that story make any sense to you? Whether I threw them out or left them in a back closet to collect dust, and I would think of them now and again, wonder if I could ever wear them again, they were still of no value/use to me.

Now that little shoe story explains very well how I am about my daughter. I haven't thrown her out, but she is back in a closet somewhere and I can think about her, but I know that we will not 'fit' anymore.....ever. Too much has changed. It's over.

Get over your ego and find something/where else to go/do!

I feel for you, Lupita. I feel for you, but I cannot find you. Can you find yourself?

Love
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Re: need my friends
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2011, 11:47:25 AM »
Hey Lupita:

Sorry you were ill, but I'm glad you're better and employed.

 I understand the compulsive worrying and wondering about reality.

At some point, maybe you accept that these things are a mystery you aren't responsible for.

Maybe you stand back and say......

"OK, M wants me destroyed or under his control.  I don't know why that's true, but it is, and I don't have to figure that out anymore."

Maybe you let it go, and turn to thoughts about just you, and what you might want, without M.

Maybe you stay with M, monitor what you say and do (so he's less upset) and continue walking on eggshells and compromising yourself.

Just remember, you don't have to figure it out, Lupe.

(((Big hugs for you)))

Lighter
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Re: need my friends
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2011, 03:02:24 PM »
Hopalong,
Since the 3rd of May, when I was told that I would not have a job the following year, I, that day, went to a meditation group, that I had spotted before but did not go because I was too busy dancing with M.
I have been going there since then. I meditate every dingle day, I listen to my CDs in the car, at home while I do home chores, and at any moment that I can listen to them.
I get calmed down a little with the meditation and it helps more than the therapy group.
The meditation is free the therapy costs money, but the therapist gave me a deal and I am paying ten dollars per session, so in some way God was taking care of me. The meditation free group is a wonderful peaceful place where I go to feel better, but I cannot go whenever a want just when they have a class which is mornings at 6:00AM and Tuesday at 6 pm. I have done the effort do go to some 6 am classes but it I have to get up at 5 and get drained the rest of the day. So, I go on Sunday that is English class and Spanish class and stay for both. My brain calms down during the classes and when I leave the center, my brain goes crazy again. I do not want medication because I do not have the money right now but as soon as my new insurance kicks on November I will re-visit that option.

Izzy, very few times I agree with you, but, oh boy, you are so dam right, that I cannot do anything but nod my head and say yes mom.  I need to calm down my brain and I am working on that on my own, with meditation and CDs. Believe me, I am better than on the 3rd of May. I was almost suicidal on the 3rd of may and because God is big I went to the meditation  center and they gave me some compassion. I think that I lost my job because of M because one of his best lady friends, he does not have men friends, he only has women friends, works at HR to where my school depended from, and M told me that my mouth gets me in trouble. I only whined to him, not to everybody because my school have me 200 kids and the other teachers had 75 and I have one planning period and the others had two some had three. So, sister and father called me and told me “Poor Lupita who works in a school where she is exploited and mistreated” So, I thought that he told his friend and there you go. I don’t know if I am right or not but it was not a performance issue.

Lighter, In my meditation class today, the lesson was, “be a happy soul by conquering attachment”.
OK, M wants me destroyed or under his control.  I don't know why that's true, but it is, and I don't have to figure that out anymore."
Maybe you let it go, and turn to thoughts about just you, and what you might want, without M.
Maybe you stay with M, monitor what you say and do (so he's less upset) and continue walking on eggshells and compromising yourself.

Hope that I can let go. I do not know how to conquer attachment. My brain obsess and I get crazy and cant control it, but I am doing better, much better. At least I can get M out of mi mind for several minutes during several times a day which was not the case one week ago.
No, I know that if I have to walk on eggshells would kill me because I was about to kill my self by being with him. He had so much power over my defective life trap that I thought I was going to die without him.
But little by little I am recovering. The most contact I have with nice people the better I feel.
Please, friends, keep writing to me, because your words mean so much for me right now.

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2011, 08:00:27 PM »
Aww, Lup. You are such a strong person.

I am so impressed about what you've done with meditation. Really, that is fantastic.
I admire you for that discipline.

Me? REGULAR exercise? Meditation? Not yet. I will look to your example, it has helped you so...

You can PM the answer if you like but would you mind telling me what group offers no-fee meditation classes? I'd like to suggest it to my D who is also in that area.

Hang in there, you are getting better!

love
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Re: need my friends
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2011, 02:05:32 PM »
Hopalong, I PMed you. Please, let me know if you got it and you checked it and you found it.

I am very sad today, just to know that it is the end with M. I do not know if I cry because of M or because of what I would like to have that I do not have.

I know it is wrong to cry for what you do not have because you waste your present time, the power of now, but the pain does not go away. I have to process that M is gone for good. That I caused that my self by not giving him what he wanted, I am aware that it is a blessing fro him to become a problem for somebody else and not me. But still hurts. One more failure or one more learning experience of the same kind that I need to avoid and do not leanr yet to avoid but I promise my self that I will run away from a man that behaves narcissistic.

The loneliness does not go away. The hole in my heart does not fill in.

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2011, 02:39:35 PM »
(((((Lup)))))

I think this is not a failure, but a success.
Because it is painful, does not mean it is failure.

Sometimes the pain of change is excruciating...but really, it's not having something taken away, it's the pain of forcing frozen limbs to move (like your hands, if they have been clutching something poisonous for a long time). It hurts like hell when you begin to move them, unlock them.

It's not failure. Another image is these are the birth pains of a new life. And it's a long labor, but I don't think you can possibly not get born into something better.

You are battling SO bravely to heal yourself.
You have chosen the direction of healing.

The rest is going to be inevitable, there's a momentum to it. You are so intelligent.
On some level you really have begun to believe there's a better way to feel. And you will.

Much respect, and love,
Hops
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Re: need my friends
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2011, 03:06:13 PM »
Hopalong, did you recieve my message? Please, let me know.

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2011, 09:48:30 AM »
I've been keeping quiet and doing a lot of thinking.  Like you, Lupita, I've dealt with an N very similar to the M you refer to.  From time to time, this N shows up like a (what's the polite word for it?  Fill in the blank with any adjective you prefer.)  Unfortunately, he's in my graduating class and during the most recent class reunion, he showed up!  I'll refer to him as the Sleazy Dweeb because even though he is now married, that didn't stop him from trying to get up in my grill and "undressing me with his eyes", which triggered multiple emotional reactions in me including an overwhelming temptation to punch his teeth down his throat KNOWING WHAT HE WAS DOING TO HIS WIFE as well as remembering what he did to me years ago!  Since I was acting as the D.J. for the Saturday night party, I found the following song in the computer and decided to play it AT the Sleazy Dweeb! I hope the lyrics help you as much as they helped me get through that awkward evening:

I WILL SURVIVE  (Sung by Gloria Gaynor)

First I was afraid
I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side
But I spent so many nights
thinking how you did me wrong
I grew strong
I learned how to carry on
and so you're back
from outer space
I just walked in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face
I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second
you'd be back to bother me

Go on now go walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

It took all the strength I had
not to fall apart
kept trying hard to mend
the pieces of my broken heart
and I spent oh so many nights
just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry
Now I hold my head up high
and you see me
somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person
still in love with you
and so you felt like dropping in
and just expect me to be free
now I'm saving all my loving
for someone who's loving me

Go on now go walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

I WILL SURVIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back Off Bug-A-Loo!

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 10:40:04 AM »
::singing along... bouncing::

Uhhh, yes.

Love.

That.

Song.

Bones.

Hey Lupita:

What a powerful lesson..... conquering attachment.

Meditation, getting outside yourself sounds like relief and peace.

Tell me, hows the new job?

Is your son doing OK?

Are you still walking on the beach?

Lighter

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Re: need my friends
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 08:48:21 AM »
Don't know why it keeps vanishing but yes, Lup, I got your PM about the meditation place.
Thank you very much for it.

I think that group wouldn't be the place for me  -- but honestly, if one can participate and benefit from the meditation practice, and keep a boundary around the cultish aspects of it, it's probably a great resource.

I do wish there were simply "Relaxation Response" or nonreligious free meditation classes in communities.

Thank you very much,
Hops
"That'll do, pig, that'll do."